Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[RodgerDodger]

I have a question is it hypothetically possible for Greer to escape the hole he has dug himself into or would he be stuck the way that he is no matter what happened to him. This is all hypothetical as basically all Lolcows continuously dig themselves deeper holes. I ask this because the answer to this question tells me something about the nature of the man himself.

Russ is capable of working. And is rarely without some form of low tier job. He has no chemical addiction demons. And he isn't actually Schizophrenic. He should be perfectly capable of recovering from the black hole that is currently his life.

The only thing working against Russ is Russ. And his yhot filled dreams.

 

[Bridgeburner]

It was honestly pretty disappointing seeing like 3 new pages on the thread and it's just people saying I'm 7.

 

[Swole McPole]

One really good book is Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven. I should note that this is mostly about the atrocious behavior of Mormon offshoot cults like FLDS, although it goes into some other scandalous stuff like the Mountain Meadows Massacre and the fascinating story of master forger and bomber Mark Hofmann (currently serving life), who swindled many including the LDS itself with forgeries containing disparaging falsehoods about early LDS history and Joseph Smith personally.

I've read the Krakauer book. In fact, I've read all his books though he went off track somewhat recently, I think. But it might be the Krakauer book that first got me interested in Mormons.

OK, it probably wasn't the Krakauer, but the Robert Lindsay book on Mark Hoffman, A Gathering of Saints.

Walker, Turley and Leonard's book, Massacre at Mountain Meadow is cued up on my Kindle, ready to go when I finish Zane Grey. I quite fancy the sequel as well, but I might be all glutted out on Mormon history by that point.

 

[StinkySnack]

It was honestly pretty disappointing seeing like 3 new pages on the thread and it's just people saying I'm 7.

90% of the people in that thread are not as funny as they think they are. The same tired jokes over and over and over. Literally the type of autists who I go to great length to avoid any real-life interactions with. I guess threads like that are their only outlet.

 

[obsdj]

And his yhot filled dreams.

Pretty sure I know what you meant, and yet this is Greer we're talking about so perhaps this is a new thing/slang/sexual perversion.

 

[Lian Xing]

Posting endless autistic speculation in between document drops?

Rampant speculation is the best part of this forum.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Nigger fuck off. God-bear forbid people have any harmless fun while waiting for a new Happening in the thread.

Sir, this is an Applebees.

 

[StinkySnack]

Rampant speculation is the best part of this forum.

Not when it's from autistic people with zero knowledge of the American court systems and who are just here "for da funny".

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Rampant speculation is the best part of this forum.

Even that was apparently too much to ask.

 

[Warm Lasagna]

Man, I just wanted to read legal documents and speculate their interpretations. A man can’t have shit in Detroit.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Even that was apparently too much to ask.

I knew I was flying too close to the sun with that Hitler picture.

 

[SCRAM]

I knew I was flying too close to the sun with that Hitler picture.

Can't be doing the Lord's work if you don't fly high, king.

 

[Pee Cola]

Same, but if you just want to LARP instead of talk about the legal case, they shuffled all that off into its own thread which is still open.

A Russhole shitposting containment thread is long overdue.

 

[DavidS877]

I guess that's a sign there's been no new actual progress in the case.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Try to not shit it up this time:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/greer-v-moon-no-20-cv-00647-d-utah-sep-16-2020.174285/post-20497355

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

But that wasn't good enough for Russell. He doesn't want some 4/10 lady, who might be fat, or a bit older, or have some disability of her own. No, he wants to sleep with Taylor Swift. He wants 9/10s on tap. And because he can pay them to pretend, he thinks they actually like him.

I think where the Mormons went wrong is that they were too nice. High school is where most people learn the difference between "your league" and "below your league" and "above your league". College is where you learn you can change that somewhat, and "real life" is where you learn that "below your league" may be much better than above.

But when he was in high school and college all the 9/10 girls were generically nice to him - and he never realized it. You can even see that in some of the post replies. He never got the memo and assumed that it was real life, and has spent the last decade or so trying to force it into real life. When all the 9/10 girls turned him down, did he try changing anything? Did he try investigating 4/10s? No, he decided he would save a 9/10 hooker with his penos.

(nobody tell russ that any non-fat 4/10 girl is a 9/10 with hooker-levels of makeup)

Could he be rehabilitated and decowed? Physically and mentally? Obviously. The guy could hold down a Walmart job with no problem if he wanted to. But fixing his personality? That would take dedication and time and there's nobody left with that to spend on him.

It's obvious from his recent statements about Steve Taylor that the best chance of "changing Greer's path" was someone like Taylor, and he couldn't do it.

His current best hope is that his libidio begins to dwindle as he gets older, and he becomes the guy at Walmart who posts about whorehouses less and less on Instagram and Linkedin.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

I have a question is it hypothetically possible for Greer to escape the hole he has dug himself into or would he be stuck the way that he is no matter what happened to him. This is all hypothetical as basically all Lolcows continuously dig themselves deeper holes. I ask this because the answer to this question tells me something about the nature of the man himself.

Yes. As long as you are breathing it's never too late to change yourself.

However, change on the scale Russ would need to go through is fucking hard. It's also painful, because the first step is admitting that you are largely the reason your life sucks balls. Most people don't have the ability to self-reflect like that, it frequently takes someone else like a therapist to gently guide someone to that realization or something extreme - think Saul on the road to Damascus level of extreme.

Russ will never get to that point, because of his personality disorder. People with NPD almost never seek mental health help, unless they are trying to learn how to manipulate their victims better. Russ isn't smart enough to do that.

In long, yes it's possible. But Russ has to want to change, and he will never see himself as anything other than a disabled stud who is an innocent victim of harassment. So, it's possible but it's also impossible.

 

[drain]

Someone in this thread mentioned long ago that Russ suffers from a lack of ''theory of mind'', meaning he is unable to realize other people might have other opinions and thoughts, desires and goals and so on. He is literally unable to rationalize other view points and how the world might perceive him and his actions as wrong or detrimental, etc. In his mind, the only right opinion and way to live and see the world is his own. That's why we are almost 5000 pages deep about this freak.

 

[The Dude]

Someone in this thread mentioned long ago that Russ suffers from a lack of ''theory of mind'', meaning he is unable to realize other people might have other opinions and thoughts, desires and goals and so on. He is literally unable to rationalize other view points and how the world might perceive him and his actions as wrong or detrimental, etc. In his mind, the only right opinion and way to live and see the world is his own. That's why we are almost 5000 pages deep about this freak.

An absence of theory of mind in someone is common with clinical narcissism and some other personality disorders. It's also common with Autism.

Russhole changing himself for the better would be similar to a long time junkie getting off smack and staying clean. As others have pointed out, someone like that has to fully recognize that they have a problem and decide they want to get rid of that problem. They have to want it more than anything. It takes a lot of hard work, a lot of pushing yourself and keeping yourself accountable. To be successful it often takes a support structure of people who care about you and who you care about back.

And a lot of times it takes having someone you love who you want to change for, like a spouse, a child, or a parent. Russhole's big problem there is he has no support circle of people he cares about and who care for him, because Russ has driven everyone away and only cares about himself. I doubt he truly cares about his parents and siblings, unless he feels like they can be useful for something like bailing him out of trouble or using them as a witness in one of his lolsuits (without bothering to tell them about it).

Another big roadblock to Shit-Lips ever getting better is he doesn't believe there is anything wrong with him. He believes his behavior, actions, and worldview are all perfectly acceptable, and anyone who tells him differently is just a big mean bully troll who wants to hurt him.

 

[Swole McPole]

Russhole changing himself for the better would be similar to a long time junkie getting off smack and staying clean. As others have pointed out, someone like that has to fully recognize that they have a problem and decide they want to get rid of that problem

This generally only happens after people experience phenomenal amounts of pain and trauma as a consequence of their drug use -- the whole 'hitting rock bottom' thing.

Russell has been fortunate so far in that the world has mollycoddled him -- seen his horrific face and decided to give him a free pass because of his plights.

If the judge in this case really cared about Russell Greer, rather than continuing to mollycoddle Russell, the kindest thing he could do would be to award Hardin enormous sanctions against him, thereby allowing Greer to learn from the unpleasant consequences of his actions and hopefully see the need to change for the better.

I'd suggest starting with $20k or so for the first lot of costs awarded against him, increasing from there. It has to really hurt before Russ will want to change.