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F.B.I. Agents Ask Court to Bar Trump Team From Disclosing Their Names
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Charlie Savage
2025-02-04 19:15:09GMT
Employees who participated in Jan. 6 investigations contend in two lawsuits that they believe the administration intends to reveal their identities, endangering them and their families.
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The F.B.I. headquarters in Washington.Credit...Rod Lamkey Jr. for The New York Times

Two anonymous sets of F.B.I. agents and employees filed lawsuits on Tuesday seeking to prevent the Trump administration from releasing the identities of agents and staff members who participated in the investigations into the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

The lawsuits came in response to a demand by Emil Bove, the acting deputy attorney general, that the F.B.I. compile and turn over a list of everyone who worked on those cases. That group, the lawsuits estimated, could number as many as 6,000 agents.

The lawsuits said that the agents believed the administration intended to reveal their identities, exposing the agents and their families to profound danger. They seek court orders prohibiting the executive branch from releasing the names.

The Trump administration has not said it intends to release the identities of the law enforcement officials, but its demand for names of people who worked on the cases has stoked the belief that it may move to fire them en masse. At the Justice Department, prosecutors who have worked on cases involving President Trump or the Jan. 6 rioters have been dismissed. The lawsuits on Tuesday appear to be putting down a marker that could expand into a challenge to any mass firings if they happen.

One of the cases, filed on behalf of nine unnamed F.B.I. agents and employees, is styled as a class-action lawsuit on behalf of bureau personnel who worked on either the Jan. 6 cases or the investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents he had kept at his Florida club and residence, Mar-a-Lago, after leaving office.

“Plaintiffs are employees of the F.B.I. who worked on Jan. 6 and/or Mar-a-Lago cases, and who have been informed that they are likely to be terminated in the very near future (the week of Feb. 3-9, 2025) for such activity,” that complaint said.

It added that the eventual class would represent “at least 6,000 current and former F.B.I. agents and employees who participated in some manner in the investigation and prosecution of crimes and abuses of power by Donald Trump, or by those acting at his behest.”

That case is being handled by the Center for Employment Justice, which represents people who claim they have been wronged in their workplaces.

The other case was filed on behalf of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Agents Association and seven unnamed F.B.I. agents and employees, and is not cast as a class action. It was filed along with a request for a temporary restraining order.

It is being handled by lawyers for the association, Mark Zaid and the State Democracy Defenders Fund, which describes itself as a nonpartisan group that fights against “election sabotage and autocracy.”

The agents, it said, expect that the Justice Department “will soon take action against numerous F.B.I. agents, including the individual plaintiffs named here,” and that those “actions will result in the disclosure of the identities of individual F.B.I. agents, which will cause immediate and irreparable harm to the plaintiffs, who will be harassed and subjected to threats of violence in violation of their First Amendment and due process rights.”

Mr. Zaid and two leaders of the fund, Norm Eisen and the retired federal judge Nancy Gertner, in a letter to the Justice Department on Sunday, warned the administration against releasing the identities of agents and threatening litigation.
 
Over 5000 of the 13,000 FBI agents worked on Jan 6th cases:

FBI turns over names of 5,000 employees who worked on January 6 cases to Trump Justice Department, as agents sue​

By Josh Campbell, Evan Perez and Hannah Rabinowitz, CNN
Updated 1:48 PM EST, Tue February 4, 2025

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The demand has caused consternation among FBI employees who fear it is meant to amass a list of line-level personnel for possible termination by the Trump administration. Mark Wilson/Getty Images

CNN — FBI officials have complied with demands to provide the Justice Department with a list of thousands of employees who worked on investigations related to the January 6, 2021, US Capitol riot, according to people familiar with the situation.

The demand has caused consternation among FBI employees who fear it is meant to amass a list of personnel for possible termination by the Trump administration.

Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove, in a Friday memo with the subject line “Terminations,” had given FBI officials a noon deadline Tuesday to submit the names of thousands of agents and analysts. Bove previously ordered the firing of eight senior FBI officials, including those who oversaw cyber, national security and criminal investigations.

More than 5,000 names were submitted, sources said. There are more than 13,000 agents and 38,000 total FBI employees.

Meanwhile, officials dispatched by Elon Musk have been seen at FBI headquarters. Musk has headed up efforts by President Donald Trump’s newly formed Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.

But several FBI employees on Tuesday sued the Justice Department, accusing it of violating the Constitution and privacy laws by demanding that agents complete a survey allegedly designed to “purge” bureau personnel. The agents want a federal judge to block the Trump administration from publishing or releasing the surveys or any information included in their answers.

“The very act of compiling lists of persons who worked on matters that upset Donald Trump is retaliatory in nature, intended to intimidate FBI agents and other personnel, and to discourage them from reporting any future malfeasance and by Donald Trump and his agents,” the lawsuit alleges.

The survey agents were required to fill out included questions about their positions at the bureau and specific roles in January 6 investigations, including whether they executed arrests, participated in grand jury investigations or testified at trials, according to a copy of the survey included in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit was brought by several anonymous FBI employees as a class-action complaint.

The effort to fire anyone involved in Trump-related probes has been slowed in part by pushback from agents, including some who are working with new administration officials pushing for the cultural changes at FBI headquarters that Kash Patel, Trump’s pick for FBI director, has promised, according to people familiar with the discussions.

Groups representing current and former agents reached out to congressional Republicans to urge the White House to abide by Patel’s promise in his Senate hearing last week that agents wouldn’t face political retribution for working on cases they were assigned.

Patel also indicated there would be a process to review the work of agents.

Bove’s Friday memo, which came after the eight firings of senior officials had already taken place, officially laid out what appears to be the process that Patel described in his testimony.

“Upon receipt of the requested information, the office of the deputy attorney general will, commence a review process to determine whether any additional personnel actions are necessary,” Bove wrote.

CNN has reached out to the Justice Department for comment.

Fight over purge of bureau personnel​

FBI employees, who for months have braced for massive changes with Trump’s election victory, have been surprised at attempts to punish agents and analysts who don’t have a choice on which cases they are assigned.

Last month, the Justice Department fired more than a dozen officials who worked on the federal criminal investigations into Trump. A letter from acting Attorney General James McHenry to the officials said they not could be “trusted” to “faithfully” implement Trump’s agenda.

Like many in law enforcement, the FBI work force generally leans conservative. And in the aftermath of January 6, many agents expressed reluctance at being involved in Capitol riot cases, complaining that the response was heavy-handed.

On his first day in office, Trump issued a blanket pardon to those arrested and convicted for their roles in the violent US Capitol riot.

Some agents in recent years have complained about the growth in ranks of management at FBI headquarters, and the focus on cases run from the Washington area. But even among those who have chafed at FBI leadership, the moves to conduct a broader purge has been shocking, according to current and former agents.

On Monday, a group of advocacy organizations representing federal law enforcement officers urged congressional leaders to prevent the Trump administration from purging career FBI career officials.

The top agent in the FBI’s New York field office, meanwhile, told his colleagues he’s digging a “foxhole” to protect them.

“Do NOT resign or offer to resign,” the FBI Agents Association told members in an email obtained by CNN. “While we would never advocate for physical non-compliance, you need to be clear your removal is not voluntary.”

Separately, lawyers for prosecutors and FBI agents called the possible dismissal of employees who worked on Trump-related investigations a “violation of the due process rights” and threatened legal action in a letter to senior DOJ officials Sunday night.

“If you proceed with terminations and/or public exposure of terminated employees’ identities, we stand ready to vindicate their rights through all available legal means,” the lawyers wrote to Bove.

The letter warns that should names of the agents become public, they would be subject to “immediate risk of doxing, swatting, harassment, or possibly worse.”

Digging in​

Perhaps the most passionate response has been from James Dennehy, the top leader of the FBI’s New York field office, who told his staff he’s preparing to “dig in” to defend them.

CNN obtained a copy of Dennehy’s email, which reads in part:

“I still remember the first time I dug a foxhole in the Marines, back in 1993. I had nothing more than an E-tool (entrenching tool) that I carried around everywhere, which was a mini (2-foot long) shovel. I dug with that damn thing all day long to build myself a 2-foot by 2-foot hole in the hard ground, about five feet deep. It sucked. But it worked. That foxhole provided me the protection I needed for the battle that was to come, and when the bullets flew, it was worth the effort.

“Today, we find ourselves in the middle of a battle of our own, as good people are being walked out of the FBI and others are being targeted because they did their jobs in accordance with the law and FBI policy. On a day like today, I find myself searching for my old E-tool, ready to put in the sweat and effort to dig that foxhole, as I have that feeling that I need to do right by this office.

“I will support each and every one of you with whatever personal decision you make, but I’m sticking around to defend you, your work, your families, and this team we call the Flagship.

“Time for me to dig in.”

CNN’s Tierney Sneed contributed to this report.

This story and headline have been updated with additional developments.
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Imagine if reddit decides to quarantine it permanently for their own safety, and we get another Resetera situation where r/WhitePeopleThings becomes it's own site, filled with nothing but radical far left users openly calling for killing and doxxing people they don't like. r/Donald did something similar when they were banned off the platform for being slightly right of center(not for threatening to kill or dox), so it's possible.

Just imagine, a sewage even more foul, more toxic than reddit. Is such a thing even possible?
That sounds like the ultimate honeypot.
 
There was is still a tumor in Christian thought that believed bringing about the apocalypse by fulfilling certain prophecies was a good thing. Which is abjectly retarded, let the apocalypse happen when it happens, trying to speed up God's plan is prideful folly.
No, the thought process is that replacement theology is bunk and Jews are still God’s chosen people, so American christians do not want to be against God’s chosen people. Regardless of how you feel about it, that’s why so many conservative Christians are so pro Israel. Also, they hate Muslims.
 
Ai chad stay winning
didn't vanguard and black rock basically prove 40 years ago a simple computer program can outperform stock brokers and their hunches by just doing quality mutual funds?
Everyone else will.
*looks at post date* hey look another Android Raptor tier faggot!
Now 100 out of the 500 students are gifted, 20%.

There are a lot more kids in the 80th-90th percentile "gifted" range in these classes than there are the 99.9th+ percentile kids who are genuinely extraordinarily talented and not served well by existing school systems, so "gifted classes" become midwit academies. They don't serve the ultra-bright autist hiding under the desk who might be able to cure cancer someday, they serve the grade grubbers and theater kids.
also consider kids going to private school or magnet or charter schools, meaning being in the 80th percentile of public school kids means a lot less when half the kids in elementary school just hopped the border into the country a week ago. in general gifted means fuck all in many school districts because the quality of public school students is a lot less than it may have been decades ago, beyond that what the hell defines "gifted education" ? just doing flash cards for 10 minutes twice a week would probably do more for these "gifted" kids than whatever scam products schools are tricked into buying.
We just can't stop winning
thats only about 1% of workers, if you distribute it out, it might literally be only the ones that were 30+ years on the job and were going to retire anyway.
Realistically, I bet Trump and Kendrick will meet at some point backstage and have a conversation. Kendrick won't talk about it publicly, but Trump will spin this into mentions during his next few appearances to appeal to black people. "I was talking to Kendrick. Kendrick Lamar, good guy, very talented. We had a great conversation, he said what are you going to do about [x issue that effects black people in the hood] and I told him we've gotta fix that, we're going to fix it..."
Kendrick's a middle aged blackman who's done nothing to get the left pissed at him, he must be a total fag, for fucks sake he called out drake for misogyny
Man as much of a sperg Elon can be he must be really enjoying this.
he's probably the first person in history to look at these numbers, its literally easier than playing elden ring or diablo apparently. it must be easy as shit to find everything with modern day computers as well,
 
NOBODY should be arrested for what they type on the internet. Don't give me bollocks fringe examples of "well this one turrurist said he would xyz", like some reddit retard.

Those cheering on the arrest of mean words on the internet should kill themselves. Do you not see how it's 'The Ratchet Effect' in plain view? Lefties had people fired for mean words on twitter, now righties want the same.

If both parties agree on arresting people for mean internet words, what do you think would happen to this forum?

Think! you fucking morons.
Openly threatening people should always be illegal. You are fuckign retarded if you think that should be allowed because "IT'S ONLY WORDS ON THE INTERNET" Calling you a retarded faggot that should suck start a shotgun is a bit different than what's going on here. It's open incitement, and you know it.

You can't, with a straight face, tell me that it should be fine for me to post your address, a picture of your house, and tell you i'm going to rape your entire family in front of you before I kill them then you.
 
I in no way meant to imply he was wrong. I just couldn’t think of his name and kept getting an image in my head that he looks like Brian Quinn from impractical jokers, and got famous for doing something that could’ve been a skit on that show

Brian Quinn

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iirc he also shows up at city council meetings and does stupid shit too
it's pretty great
 
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