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Gehenna said:
I swear there are several posters here who drop 50+ IQ points whenever the Middle-East and Israel in particular come up.

lets start with the obvious thing. You have no details, at all, about what "Owning Gaza" even means. For all anyone knows this is another Canada situation where he absolutely has no intent of actually owning shit and is just mentioning it because he is -trolling people-. It could also be a Panama situation where "owning" translates to making binding agreements with the government that actually controls it (Which honestly would probably be Israel at that point). Or some new bullshit. You have -no- way of knowing.

But, for the sake of argument, lets assume it becomes the next U.S. Territory.

Why, in the fuck, would someone anti-israel have a problem with the U.S. doing the -one thing- that actually permanently damages Israel's claim to fame for why they are our "Greatest Ally"? Have you put even a single bit of thought into this beyond "Grug thinks Israel bad"?

The -entire premise- for why Israel is so important on a strategic level is that it is a full staging base into the Mediterranean, Middle East, and to the Suez Canal and its accompanying waters. It is literally the -only- thing we are getting out of the so-called alliance. And having Gaza would absolutely destroy that. It completely undercuts Israel's entire claim to strategic importance. Which, at the very least, makes it -easier- to disentangle ourselves from them when a less pro-Israel politican gets control.





And don't get me started on the cost savings. The price of rebuilding Gaza -and- turning it into a naval staging base/fortress would be less than we would pay in the -medium- term for the Iron Dome defense system alone. Hamas got a 'pass' for that because of their precarious and dubious standing internationally., If someone starts firing off from anywhere else it would be a very, very different story.
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THANK you.

Sometimes we just need the resident old man in the thread to get out the belt.
 
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Donald Trump could tell people in this thread they have to house at least one family of H1Bs in their house and they'd cheer it on. People in this thread cannot think on a higher level than "MAGA good Dems bad" to the point you had a fervent defense of Elon and Vivek when they came out and said how white Americans are lazy and retarded for not working 60 hours a week with no overtime and that's why we need millions of H1Bs. It's like bizarroverse r/politics.

Personally I hope they sign up for the Army and join the Gaza occupation. But we know they won't since they're a bunch of chickenhawks (actually we already knew this because many are unironic neocons who worship Israel and want more money and weapons handed to the Ukraine).
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Vivek sunk his career with that shit. The firestorm on Twitter was very influential in that. All the people who did defend him also were attacked. It was a clear Vivek loss, exactly because the MAGA base don't like that shit and the people trying to mask as MAGA were exposed. Musk is another matter. If Musk wasn't who he was I too believe he would have been sunk. Unfortunately or fortunately he is an asset in more ways that matter than his views on H1B.

People want this country better, these foreign sideshows are just that. Bolstered in the media to distract from our issues at home. I genuinely think people like you and others in this thread who are so obsessed with Israel would ironically rather see this country burn than Israel be viewed or talked about positively by anyone in power. You would rather see a Democrat sit and do nothing but let this nation burn as long as they chide Israel.

Nevermind the fact that what aid does go to Israel which I personally think is ridiculous, it's still dwarfed by all these dem NGOs getting government money for actually ruining this country and Trump is shutting that down. The USAid thing is so deep and dark and causing such a shit storm, but yeah focus on Israel. Call other people obsessed with Jews when anytime Israeli is talked about it dwarfs any other giant positive story in your mind and you froth at the mouth

Edit: just realized I'm arguing with a pedophile. What a waste.
 
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Betonhaus said:
because of all the other shit that he has successfully done and is still on track to do. Honestly it's like saying that you hate Santa Clause because although he gave you 50 presents on your wish list he forgot two at the bottom that you didn't really care about anyways.
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better comparison is he gifted you IN ADDITION to the 50 other gifts a 4 story townhouse in the bad part of town that is damn near falling apart and the truly dumb gorilla niggers hear that and get mad, stuff like muh property taxes and its alot of effort to fix, and they don't realize just how valuable THE LAND IS especially when you evict the squatters and improve the neighborhood which you need to do anyway cause its messing up the city as a whole leaving that area so fucked.
 
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Mourning_Cloak said:
I don't give a flying fuck about Israel or Palestine but the second someone starts whining about "muh zog bootlickers" or "muh Zion Don" I will immediately write off everything else they said, no matter what it is (and it's quite often retardation).

Anyone who does anything less than nuke Israel will be nothing but yet another "Zionist" or whatever to them. And I hate to tell them this but there is a 99.9% chance you'll never get a politician of any flavor that wants to do that. Sorry.
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All he has to do is not suck jewish cock, and he won't be called "Zion Don". This is pretty simple to understand, but since that's a hard concept for you to grasp, I guess I will immediately write off anything else you say as well.
Calandrino said:
I dgaf about DEI or immigrants or Israel or any of this other stupid shit, I just happen to buy a lot of eggs, and there's been little if any progress on that front
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Are we still on the muh eggs narrative just second week into his term? This election really exposed the retards who don't understand basic economics and think you poof low prices of goods out of thin air at will.
 
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Yours Truly 2095 said:
Vivek sunk his career with that shit. The firestorm on Twitter was very influential in that. All the people who did defend him also were attacked. It was a clear Vivek loss, exactly because the MAGA base don't like that shit and the people trying to mask as MAGA were exposed. Musk is another matter. If Musk wasn't who he was I too believe he would have been sunk. Unfortunately or fortunately he is an asset in more ways that matter than his views on H1B.
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It's like the thing with RFK. They don't have to agree on everything, as long as they're not in charge of anything they disagree with Don on.

Like, Elon should have no significant role to play in setting the desired scope of immigration. His goal is to trim the literal tonnes of fat off everything the government does.
 
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StudMccool said:
better comparison is he gifted you IN ADDITION to the 50 other gifts a 4 story townhouse in the bad part of town that is damn near falling apart and the truly dumb gorilla niggers hear that and get mad, stuff like muh property taxes and its alot of effort to fix, and they don't realize just how valuable THE LAND IS especially when you evict the squatters and improve the neighborhood which you need to do anyway cause its messing up the city as a whole leaving that area so fucked.
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Your metaphor, like your thinking, lacks internal consistency and rationale. Santa deals in gifts, coal, dairy, and confectioneries.
 
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Save the Loli said:
Donald Trump could tell people in this thread they have to house at least one family of H1Bs in their house and they'd cheer it on. People in this thread cannot think on a higher level than "MAGA good Dems bad" to the point you had a fervent defense of Elon and Vivek when they came out and said how white Americans are lazy and retarded for not working 60 hours a week with no overtime and that's why we need millions of H1Bs. It's like bizarroverse r/politics.

Personally I hope they sign up for the Army and join the Gaza occupation. But we know they won't since they're a bunch of chickenhawks (actually we already knew this because many are unironic neocons who worship Israel and want more money and weapons handed to the Ukraine).
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No, dumbass, most people with a functioning pre-frontal cortex can understand that when our messed up system only offers you two choices - either one dumb cabal bimbo puppet that will suck jewish cock (while pretending that she doesn't) versus one insane orange boomer that will tear down the entire system (that will also suck jewish cock) - the choice is not perfect but plainly obvious. There is also an entierly different element to this that you or I cannot comprehend when you are at that level of politics, no doubt if you're going to disrupt the US deep state hegemony you're going to have to make alliances and play ball with people that you wouldn't want to otherwise. I'm not saying that is the case or that he doesn't want to, its more likely he's another zog puppet, but to think that you can pass judgement when you're at that echelon of power on the world stasge is the height of main character syndrome.

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Anyone else just started hearing about something called "Dark Woke"? I'm seeing some pretty unhinged shit revolving about it. People are just straight up endorsing mass murder, bombings, political assassinations, etc. I think the American left has been irreversibly broken due to Trump winning the election.
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Anyone who has been following these people with a morbid curiosity over the past 4 years know that they have always been like this. If anything this is a blessing because now that they've gone mask off even the most out of touch fed boomer can understand the serious danger these people pose.
 
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Eventide said:
I look forward to Trump's Dept. of Justice throwing tankie domestic terrorists in our country's many fine ADX prison complexes.
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Clinton let the FALN terrorists out because he needed Latino votes, despite them literally shooting up congress and performing a terror bombing campaign.
Obama let the last two of them out and gave them a parade, because he was doing a victory lap after headshotting America.
One of them was allowed to break out of prison when his lawyer brought him wire cutters, claiming searching her for contraband violated Attorney client privilege, and the prison guards just all happened to be taking a nap while he used wire cutters to cut a hole in the prison window.
A serial cop killer, the "spiritual founder of BLM," was allowed to walk away from a minimum security prison and flee to Cuba, where she still is to this day.
Bill Ayers (the terrorist leader of the Weather Underground) is somehow still alive, despite us having a perfectly functional glowy network or 7 that could kill him at any time; he wasn't allowed to be prosecuted for a serial bombing campaign due to a technicality.
Another leader of the Weather Underground is currently running fundraising operations for BLM or Antifa.
The National Lawyer's Guild openly helped domestic terrorists bomb government buildings and have went on to be Antifa's legal team, sending Green-hat wearing "Legal Observers" to intimidate police into not stopping them from Black Bloc terrorist tactics.

I don't look forward to "Dark Woke" being put in prison.

The left lets their terrorists go when people aren't paying attention.

The left gives their terrorist parades when they think they have enough power.

I want leftist domestic terrorists put to death and their final moments livestreamed on the POTUS twitter account in 4K Ultra HD. I want it recorded from multiple angles including the executioner's so you can watch it in VR like a spectator. I want it to be required viewing for all high school students as a reminder of what we do to terrorists on our soil.
 
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