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Should be a wild four years.

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Oh no, based DOGE staffer down!

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Marko Elez, one of the two primary DOGE emissaries embedded in the Treasury Department, resigned from the Musk-led agency, the White House told The Wall Street Journal, after the publication uncovered Elez’s ties to a since-deleted X account with racist posts including calling for “eugenic immigration policy” and to “normalize Indian hate.”

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I bet it was the normalize Indian hate that got him. Dude apparently worked in Silicon Valley for a bit so I get it.
I mean, it's already been normalized, so mission kinda-sorta accomplished.

Between Musk and Vivek opening their big fat mouths before Trump's inauguration, that opened up that can of worms to where almost everyone on X was dunking on Indians.

The only downside to Trump's massive wins is that all that trash talking stopped, when IMO it should continue until they take a hint and go away forever.
 
Today's Presidential Actions:

Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias​

EXECUTIVE ORDER
February 6, 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose and Policy. It is the policy of the United States, and the purpose of this order, to protect the religious freedoms of Americans and end the anti-Christian weaponization of government. The Founders established a Nation in which people were free to practice their faith without fear of discrimination or retaliation by their government.

For that reason, the United States Constitution enshrines the fundamental right to religious liberty in the First Amendment. Federal laws like the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, as amended (42 U.S.C. 2000bb et seq.), further prohibit government interference with Americans’ rights to exercise their religion. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended (42 U.S.C. 2000e et seq.), prohibits religious discrimination in employment while Federal hate-crime laws prohibit offenses committed due to religious animus.

Yet the previous Administration engaged in an egregious pattern of targeting peaceful Christians, while ignoring violent, anti-Christian offenses. The Biden Department of Justice sought to squelch faith in the public square by bringing Federal criminal charges and obtaining in numerous cases multi-year prison sentences against nearly two dozen peaceful pro-life Christians for praying and demonstrating outside abortion facilities. Those convicted included a Catholic priest and 75-year-old grandmother, as well as an 87-year-old woman and a father of 11 children who were arrested 18 months after praying and singing hymns outside an abortion facility in Tennessee as a part of a politically motivated prosecution campaign by the Biden Administration. I rectified this injustice on January 23, 2025, by issuing pardons in these cases.

At the same time, Catholic churches, charities, and pro-life centers sought justice for violence, theft, and arson perpetrated against them, which the Biden Department of Justice largely ignored. After more than 100 attacks, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning this violence and calling on the Biden Administration to enforce the law.

Then, in 2023, a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) memorandum asserted that “radical-traditionalist” Catholics were domestic-terrorism threats and suggested infiltrating Catholic churches as “threat mitigation.” This later-retracted FBI memorandum cited as support evidence propaganda from highly partisan sources.

The Biden Department of Education sought to repeal religious-liberty protections for faith-based organizations on college campuses. The Biden Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sought to force Christians to affirm radical transgender ideology against their faith. And the Biden Department of Health and Human Services sought to drive Christians who do not conform to certain beliefs on sexual orientation and gender identity out of the foster-care system. The Biden Administration declared March 31, 2024 — Easter Sunday — as “Transgender Day of Visibility.”

In this atmosphere of anti-Christian government, hostility and vandalism against Christian churches and places of worship surged, with the number of such identified acts in 2023 exceeding by more than eight times the number from 2018. Catholic churches and institutions have been aggressively targeted with hundreds of acts of hostility, violence, and vandalism.

My Administration will not tolerate anti-Christian weaponization of government or unlawful conduct targeting Christians. The law protects the freedom of Americans and groups of Americans to practice their faith in peace, and my Administration will enforce the law and protect these freedoms. My Administration will ensure that any unlawful and improper conduct, policies, or practices that target Christians are identified, terminated, and rectified.

Sec. 2. Establishing a Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias. (a) There is hereby established within the Department of Justice the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias (Task Force).
(b) The Attorney General shall serve as Chair of the Task Force.
(c) In addition to the Chair, the Task Force shall consist of the following other members:
(i) the Secretary of State;
(ii) the Secretary of the Treasury;
(iii) the Secretary of Defense;
(iv) the Secretary of Labor;
(v) the Secretary of Health and Human Services;
(vi) the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development;
(vii) the Secretary of Education;
(viii) the Secretary of Veterans Affairs;
(ix) the Secretary of Homeland Security;
(x) the Director of the Office of Management and Budget;
(xi) Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations;
(xii) the Administrator of the Small Business Administration;
(xiii) the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;
(xiv) the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy;
(xv) the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency;
(xvi) the Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission; and
(xvii) the heads of such other executive departments, agencies, and offices that the Chair may, from time to time, invite to participate.

Sec. 3. Task Force Functions. (a) The Task Force shall meet as required by the Chair and shall take appropriate action to:
(i) review the activities of all executive departments and agencies (agencies), including the Department of State, the Department of Justice, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Department of Labor, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Education, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, over the previous Administration and identify any unlawful anti-Christian policies, practices, or conduct by an agency contrary to the purpose and policy of this order;
(ii) recommend to the head of the relevant agency steps to revoke or terminate any violative policies, practices, or conduct identified under subsection (3)(a)(i) of this section and remedial actions to fulfill the purpose and policy of this order;
(iii) share information and develop strategies to protect the religious liberties of Americans and advance the purpose and policy of this order;
(iv) solicit information and ideas from a broad range of individuals and groups, including Americans affected by anti-Christian conduct, faith-based organizations, and State, local, and Tribal governments, in order to ensure that its work is informed by a broad spectrum of ideas and experiences;
(v) identify deficiencies in existing laws and enforcement and regulatory practices that have contributed to unlawful anti-Christian governmental or private conduct and recommend to the relevant agency head, or recommend to the President, through the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, as applicable, appropriate actions that agencies may take to remedy failures to fully enforce the law against acts of anti-Christian hostility, vandalism, and violence; and
(vi) recommend to the President, through the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, any additional Presidential or legislative action necessary to rectify past improper anti-Christian conduct, protect religious liberty, or otherwise fulfill the purpose and policy of this order.
(b) In order to advise the President regarding its work and assist the President in formulating future policy, the Task Force shall submit to the President, through the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy:
(i) a report within 120 days from the date of this order regarding the Task Force’s initial work;
(ii) a report within 1 year from the date of this order that summarizes the Task Force’s work; and
(iii) a final report upon the dissolution of the Task Force.

Sec. 4. Administration. (a) The heads of agencies shall, to the extent permitted by law, upon the request of the Chair, provide the Task Force with any information required by the Task Force for the purpose of carrying out its functions.
(b) The Department of Justice shall provide such funding and administrative and technical support as the Task Force may require, to the extent permitted by law and as authorized by existing appropriations.

Sec. 5. Termination. The Task Force shall terminate 2 years from the date of this order unless extended by the President.

Sec. 6. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.





















THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 6, 2025.
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IMPOSING SANCTIONS ON THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT​

EXECUTIVE ORDER
February 6, 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the International Criminal Court (ICC), as established by the Rome Statute, has engaged in illegitimate and baseless actions targeting America and our close ally Israel. The ICC has, without a legitimate basis, asserted jurisdiction over and opened preliminary investigations concerning personnel of the United States and certain of its allies, including Israel, and has further abused its power by issuing baseless arrest warrants targeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Former Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant. The ICC has no jurisdiction over the United States or Israel, as neither country is party to the Rome Statute or a member of the ICC. Neither country has ever recognized the ICC’s jurisdiction, and both nations are thriving democracies with militaries that strictly adhere to the laws of war. The ICC’s recent actions against Israel and the United States set a dangerous precedent, directly endangering current and former United States personnel, including active service members of the Armed Forces, by exposing them to harassment, abuse, and possible arrest. This malign conduct in turn threatens to infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States and undermines the critical national security and foreign policy work of the United States Government and our allies, including Israel. Furthermore, in 2002, the Congress enacted the American Servicemembers’ Protection Act of 2002 (22 U.S.C. 7421 et seq.) to protect United States military personnel, United States officials, and officials and military personnel of certain allied countries against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party, stating, “In addition to exposing members of the Armed Forces of the United States to the risk of international criminal prosecution, the Rome Statute creates a risk that the President and other senior elected and appointed officials of the United States Government may be prosecuted by the International Criminal Court.” (22 U.S.C. 7421(9)).

The United States unequivocally opposes and expects our allies to oppose any ICC actions against the United States, Israel, or any other ally of the United States that has not consented to ICC jurisdiction. The United States remains committed to accountability and to the peaceful cultivation of international order, but the ICC and parties to the Rome Statute must respect the decisions of the United States and other countries not to subject their personnel to the ICC’s jurisdiction, consistent with their respective sovereign prerogatives.

The United States will impose tangible and significant consequences on those responsible for the ICC’s transgressions, some of which may include the blocking of property and assets, as well as the suspension of entry into the United States of ICC officials, employees, and agents, as well as their immediate family members, as their entry into our Nation would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.

I therefore determine that any effort by the ICC to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute protected persons, as defined in section 8(d) of this order, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to address that threat. I hereby determine and order:
Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person, of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:
(i) the person listed in the Annex to this order; and
(ii) any foreign person determined by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury and the Attorney General:
(A) to have directly engaged in any effort by the ICC to investigate, arrest, detain, or prosecute a protected person without consent of that person’s country of nationality;
(B) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity in subsection (a)(ii)(A) of this section or any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or
(C) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.
(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section apply except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before the date of this order.

Sec. 2. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the types of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to section 1 of this order would seriously impair my ability to address the national emergency declared in this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 3. The prohibitions in section 1(a) of this order include:
(a) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to section 1 of this order; and
(b) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 4. The unrestricted immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens determined to meet one or more of the criteria in section 1 of this order, as well as immediate family members of such aliens, or aliens determined by the Secretary of State to be employed by, or acting as an agent of, the ICC, would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and the entry of such persons into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, is hereby suspended, except where the Secretary of State determines that the entry of the person into the United States would not be contrary to the interests of the United States, including when the Secretary of State so determines, based on a recommendation of the Attorney General, that the person’s entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives. In exercising this responsibility, the Secretary of State shall consult with the Secretary of Homeland Security on matters related to admissibility or inadmissibility within the authority of the Secretary of Homeland Security. Such persons shall be treated as persons covered by section 1 of Proclamation 8693 of July 24, 2011 (Suspension of Entry of Aliens Subject to United Nations Security Council Travel Bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act Sanctions). The Secretary of State shall have the responsibility for implementing this section pursuant to such conditions and procedures as the Secretary of State has established or may establish pursuant to Proclamation 8693.

Sec. 5. Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a report on additional persons that should be included within the scope of section 1 of this order.

Sec. 6. (a) Any transaction that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.
(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 7. Nothing in this order shall prohibit transactions for the conduct of the official business of the Federal Government by employees, grantees, or contractors thereof.

Sec. 8. For the purposes of this order:
(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;
(b) the term “entity” means a government or instrumentality of such government, partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization;
(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including a foreign branch, subsidiary, or employee of such entity), or any person lawfully in the United States;
(d) the term “protected person” means:
(i) any United States person, unless the United States provides formal consent to ICC jurisdiction over that person or becomes a state party to the Rome Statute, including:
(A) current or former members of the Armed Forces of the United States;
(B) current or former elected or appointed officials of the United States Government; and
(C) any other person currently or formerly employed by or working on behalf of the United States Government; and
(ii) any foreign person that is a citizen or lawful resident of an ally of the United States that has not consented to ICC jurisdiction over that person or is not a state party to the Rome Statute, including:
(A) current or former members of the armed forces of such ally of the United States;
(B) current or former elected or appointed government officials of such ally of the United States; and
(C) any other person currently or formerly employed by or working on behalf of such a government;
(e) the term “ally of the United States” means:
(i) a government of a member country of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization; or
(ii) a government of a “major non-NATO ally,” as that term is defined by section 2013(7) of the American Servicemembers’ Protection Act of 2002 (22 U.S.C. 7432(7));
(f) the term “immediate family member” means a spouse or child;
(g) the term “alien” has the meanings given to the term in section 101(a)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(3)); and
(h) the term “foreign person” means a person that is not a United States person.

Sec. 9. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to section 1 of this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1 of this order.

Sec. 10. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to implement this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions within the Department of the Treasury. All executive departments and agencies of the United States shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order.

Sec. 11. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to submit recurring and final reports to the Congress on the national emergency declared in this order, consistent with section 401(c) of the NEA (50 U.S.C. 1641(c)) and section 204(c) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1703(c)).

Sec. 12. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
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please follow me along on a wonderful journey

the original post i saw on r/teachers
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the teacher in question
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before i show you the picture in question, let's recap. an old roller derbying dyke that teaches English, runs the GSA, posts on the meme subreddit "are the straights ok", and pins up "trans rights!" pictures by her students she's grooming was called out directly by the Indiana state DA. these are the exact people Trump is protecting children from with his tranny related EOs. thank you Trump, very cool

i have saved the best part for last. below is the picture that she has pinned up on her wall that the DA reposted a picture of on his official Twitter account
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why is it always sonic
Todd Rokita? Seriously nigga? God has a hell of a sense of humor.
 
What have they done to be so bad? I don't know anything about them.
Combined, their existence wastes roughly 11 billion of tax payer money every year. They are responsible for vehicles of today being unnecessarily ugly, bulky, unreliable, complicated, expensive and hard to work on, thru their ridiculous safety, emissions and fuel efficiency requirements. In addition to The NHTSA is also responsible for the 25 year vehicle import rule that absolutely everyone dislikes, and thinks is stupid, and it is stupid. In addition, the EPA are the main cunts responsible for most of the US's environmental decisions. In addition, the EPA, like the ATF are power hungry, unconstitutional faggots that somehow have the power to define laws as they wish and create new regulations out of thin air that fuck everyone over, and you have to spend 10 years in court to fix it. EPA is actually probably one of the more powerful agencies in terms of what they can regulate and not, since they can regulate and fine all pollutants, except no one has given them a list of what is and isn't a pollutant, so they just get to make it up themselves, so they can pretty much regulate everything, specially cause they consider CO2 a major pollutant and pretty much everything produces CO2. Just don't tell them they have that kind of power, cause I don't think they have quite realized it yet.

Anyway the 1st and 2nd sentences are 95% why I hate them, they made all the cars and motorcycles uncool and bland, and that is a crime I cannot forgive ever. And it is for that alone they deserve to be crucified IMO.
 
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One almost has to marvel at the ineptitude of the democratic party at this point.

They have decided to go all in on using whatever political will and capitol left to them to get the base on board with stopping Vought into the budget director seat, an admittedly decent plan if it wasent for a few issues

they already voted yes to approve his nomination and now its just one of those fucky senate things where they have to vote like 2 more times or else Thomas Jefferson's old house will catch on fire or something I dont know

AND the Republicans have a 53-45-2 in the senate so fucking not the best place to act like you can flex anything

However to be fair ive thought about it and given how totatly demoralized their base is, how they lost so profoundly in the last election AND all the apparatus of their propaganda tech state has been not just cut off on a funding level but they ideologically lost the leaders of google, Facebook, and microsoft. They cant fight unfair and they have spent years convincing their base its ok to ignore the rule of law if "social justice" demands it so it makes it that much harder to try and hide behind the cloak of "rule of law" now that the shoe is on the other foot. Not to mention they lost all their funding to their mouth peice news groups who now have no real motivation to spin their lies in a coherent or organized manner.

My best guess is we are going to start seeing more and more of the less scrupulous members of the party try and find the best terms for themselves within the new administration rather than risk total barrel placement
 
Except Jihad didn't start with US support of Israel. Muslims have been homicidal psycho animals since their false prophet first decided he enjoyed murder and childfucking.
Supporting Israel has painted a target on our back and it's not worth it. I'm not defending Muslims I'm just sick of hearing shit about the Jews being our "greatest ally" or "God's Chosen People". No, they are not. They are a parasite sucking American treasure for nothing in return and I think God made it abundantly clear that Israel should not exist when He scattered the Jews into Europe after the destruction of the temple in the 1st century.
 
As long as it’s just providing spiritual guidance and they don’t try to implement a state religion.
Fun fact: it wouldn't even matter if they did. The UK literally has a state religion, Anglicanism, headed by their monarch. They are in a great position to not put up with Moslem rape, but it's all about how you choose to use it.

Also separation of church and state is only necessarily a federal US policy under the first amendment, it's communist judicial activism that has seen the phrase interpreted in the maximalist way we're used to now. Individual US states had established religions and even religious tests for public office well into their confederation, the first amendment just guarantees that if a majority of the country has established some denomination in their own states, they can't force the rest of the states to establish that religion at the federal level. It's religious pluralism at the state level.
 
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Hurts me to no end that the chips act gets lumped into the great financial fuckinging of 2020-2024

Ill die on the hill that the CHIPS act was one of bidens few wins and I can talk for HOURS about how important that baby step into american tech manufacturing was.

He took us from 2% global semiconductor production to nearly 10% when we were only supposed to hit about 5% by this time. in 10 years we will be at nearly 30% and our children will thank us
Honestly imo one of the few Biden Ws.
 
The only downside to Trump's massive wins is that all that trash talking stopped, when IMO it should continue until they take a hint and go away forever.
I've watched Musk effectively gut the shit out of the biggest grifting organizations in the government and bring them all to heel in lightning speed.

Meanwhile the people still sperging over that bullshit are...? Reposting Sam Hyde and groyper memes? Screeching about Musk? Saying H1B should be banned entirely without any mention of the literal myriad of alternative visas (some of which are uncapped) that Indians would flood in instead? Musk was a retard to argue with internet shitposters and groypers, but I'm sick of this "go away forever" bullshit. He's doing amazing things as we fucking speak.
 
As of today, their best bet is a Fetterman Gambit. I'm titling it this now because I believe this is what he's doing. Find a guy who will work with the Republicans and Trump administration to be a snake in the grass. Let him talk up the popular candidates and seem like he's an actual intelligent politician who will reform the other side. Tard wrangle everyone else to STFU and keep quiet. Then when the day comes when people are tired of MAGA, we can pull the wool over people's heads. I think this is their most likely play. Keep an eye on Fetterman.

I think it's just as likely that he's trying to keep his job. Fetterman is up for reelection in 2028 which will be a presidential election year as well. PA is very much in play and the Republicans just unseated Bob Casey who was a senator there for nearly two decades. Fetterman is nowhere near as secure in his own position and if he followed the standard Democrat playbook it's likely that he would lose.

I disagree. We should set up a Palestinian state. This shit only happens because we let Israel ensure that there is not a stable Palestinian government that can care for its people. To hell with the Zionists, it's time Uncle Sam did what's right.

The Ben Gurion Canal project has been a thing floated in Israel for years in order to center global shipping through Israel instead of Suez in Egypt.

If we're going to set up a Palestinian state or a new canal, why not kill two birds with one stone and do some land trading so that Palestine gets everything west of the canal and Israel everything to the east. I don't think either side is inclined to agree to this, but something has to change because maintaining the status quo and kicking the can down the road isn't going to do anything.
 
If we're going to set up a Palestinian state or a new canal, why not kill two birds with one stone and do some land trading so that Palestine gets everything west of the canal and Israel everything to the east. I don't think either side is inclined to agree to this, but something has to change because maintaining the status quo and kicking the can down the road isn't going to do anything.
You know I don't really see the point of making another canal but I wouldn't be opposed. Any Palestinian state shouldn't just be Gaza and the West Bank.
 
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