Mega Rad Gun Thread

Is it a good idea to buy an el cheapo ($100-$150) pistol to qualify for your CCW knowing that your won't carry that one. Or should I just save up for the pistol I want and qualify for that? Mind you whatever gun I carry I will of course train and practice with it. But this is so I can just get my CCW.
No.

Frankly I have 0 idea where you can even find a .22 pistol at that price these days.

You want a stupid cheap handgun? Go get a police trade in. That will be a gun worth shooting and worth keeping for around $300-$400

Sportsmans outdoors has a nice selection right now
 
"A .380 being unpleasant to shoot?" You ask. Yes, a nearly subcompact blowback pistol in .380 sucks
I'll never get how the PPK gained the traction it did. I first saw it in the Bond films and so I wanted to try it out. When I finally got some trigger time on one I thought, "Damn, they did James dirty with this bullshit."

And it still sells well, even at its ridiculous price point.
Is it a good idea to buy an el cheapo ($100-$150) pistol to qualify for your CCW knowing that your won't carry that one. Or should I just save up for the pistol I want and qualify for that? Mind you whatever gun I carry I will of course train and practice with it. But this is so I can just get my CCW.
One thing I want to add is if possible, try and shoot a variety of pistols you're interested in owning. I suggest this because one thing I've found to be true is that people are far more likely to train consistently with weapons they like, so figuring out what you enjoy before committing fully is helpful.
Frankly I have 0 idea where you can even find a .22 pistol at that price these days.
I've never gone to a pawn shop for a firearm, but maybe someone in the thread could say if that's a good idea for this.
 
Is it a good idea to buy an el cheapo ($100-$150) pistol to qualify for your CCW knowing that your won't carry that one. Or should I just save up for the pistol I want and qualify for that? Mind you whatever gun I carry I will of course train and practice with it. But this is so I can just get my CCW.
This is poor logic going about doing most things. But especially so for something like this. It's just burning money. If you're spending that much you're getting a (AT BEST) little range toy. Even then that's a stretch. Save you're self the money and just get the gun you want.
 
do most states let you qualify for a ccw with a .22? and I'll follow your advice and save up.


sorry if this is a stupid question but are there any pistols that are as utilitarian as a normal ar-15/m-16. I know guns are like bikes and cars where people's individual needs and preferences guide what they buy but are there any pistols that are just: "gun"? Just as you get a toyota carolla for your first car,If I came you and asked for the toyota Corolla of rifles you would probably point me to a stock ar-15 with ambi safety/mag release. what is the Toyota Corolla of pistols?
 
do most states let you qualify for a ccw with a .22? and I'll follow your advice and save up.


sorry if this is a stupid question but are there any pistols that are as utilitarian as a normal ar-15/m-16. I know guns are like bikes and cars where people's individual needs and preferences guide what they buy but are there any pistols that are just: "gun"? Just as you get a toyota carolla for your first car,If I came you and asked for the toyota Corolla of rifles you would probably point me to a stock ar-15 with ambi safety/mag release. what is the Toyota Corolla of pistols?
Glock 19. And you'd need to look into that yourself for your state. many don't even require classes for a carry license. It's entirely possible there may be caliber restrictions like .38 and above.
 
not to sound like a fudd but Glock 19s don't have manual safeties how is that safe?
The trigger has a safety dingus on it for drop safety. To be frank, if you're not comfortable enough carrying with a round in the chamber and your finger as the ultimate safety you aren't ready to be carrying. If you're worried something other than your finger is going to set the gun off, figure that out because it's a you problem

That said frame safeties are fast to disconnect when drawing and aiming to fire, but I still don't like them. The real thing that will absolutely get you killed is carrying unloaded.
 
do most states let you qualify for a ccw with a .22? and I'll follow your advice and save up.


sorry if this is a stupid question but are there any pistols that are as utilitarian as a normal ar-15/m-16. I know guns are like bikes and cars where people's individual needs and preferences guide what they buy but are there any pistols that are just: "gun"? Just as you get a toyota carolla for your first car,If I came you and asked for the toyota Corolla of rifles you would probably point me to a stock ar-15 with ambi safety/mag release. what is the Toyota Corolla of pistols?
Personal recommendation is the berretta 92fs, gts, or centurion. The actual answer is the glock 19. Avoid sig.
 
I'll never get how the PPK gained the traction it did.
Nazi gun, also small.
not to sound like a fudd but Glock 19s don't have manual safeties how is that safe?
It's a comfort thing. I got over it by having a cocked and unloaded S&W M&P .40(dirt cheap btw) on my person for about a year. Walking and working around the house and sleeping with it in the holster. Never had a dropped striker.
 
not to sound like a fudd but Glock 19s don't have manual safeties how is that safe?
With how the glock works, it is not fully cocked until the trigger is fully pulled, there is not enough energy stored in the striker for it to fire a round. The glock (and many pistols like it) have a trigger dingus which is a method of making sure that the trigger will not move unless it is pressed by your finger (or something getting into the trigger guard).

 
Personal recommendation is the berretta 92fs, gts, or centurion. The actual answer is the glock 19. Avoid sig.
Personally for a person who wants a safety the 92 isn't great unless you get one of the new expensive frame mounted options. Slide mounted sucks, decocker only G models is the way to go on slide mounted. I would say a centurion is the way to go if you want a carry gun, I kinda wish I got the centurion model.

That said I have a hard time finding 92 mags in stores. It's all Glock and SIG. I love my CZ p10c I like it a lot more than any Glock 19. I've ever tried by far. Way better trigger. I like the ergonomics better but I think for new people I just flat out say just get a Glock 19 parts are everywhere. Mags are everywhere holsters are everywhere. You don't have to rely on the internet to order stuff like you do Basically any other gun. I don't even own one. But it's by far the most practical 9 mm handgun you can own.
 
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not to sound like a fudd but Glock 19s don't have manual safeties how is that safe?
Personally for a person who wants a safety the 92 isn't great unless you get one of the new expensive frame mounted options. Slide mounted sucks, decocker only G models is the way to go on slide mounted. I would say a centurion is the way to go if you want a carry gun, I kinda wish I got the centurion model.

That said I have a hard time finding 92 mags in stores. It's all Glock and SIG

Just want to extrapolate a bit on this. The safety is the most important thing in your mind when new to carrying. As it should be really. But as a person who cas carried pistols he really didn't get to choose for most his time carrying. The most important safety of all is understanding the function of the pistol. As mentioned its not particularly great to NOT be going around with one in the chamber(this will be fine as you get more comfortable with your pistol.) As mentioned before half of the 92s that exist don't have a "safety". A berreta 92 is a single double action pistol. Meaning that the first shot will be a long single action trigger pull. While every shot after will be a light trigger pull. So the "safety" on a decocked 92 comes from. The very heavy first trigger pull. Since I have a good holster(the 2nd most important thing about carrying), i maintain my pistol(the 3rd most important thing), and it's not a sig p320 (the 4th most important thing). I know that the beretta 92 will never go off in my holster even without the "safety".

Besides being super biased. I recommend the beretta (you will probably want the centurion) because it is essentially the most proven modern pistol by a significant margin when it comes to use in the field outside the 1911. I DONT recommend the 1911 because I would only ever trust models that are over $1000. Which obliterates your budget i assume. If someone tries to tell you otherwise I would be very hesitant to trust their advice. The glock 19 (or most variants really, it's all the same fucking shit) is proven in a similar way as it's the most popular handgun in America iirc. There are also parts LITERALLY everywhere for it. The beretta you will also be able to easily get parts for it... online. Sadly.
 
That said I have a hard time finding 92 mags in stores
Just buy them online. Or even straight from Beretta themselves, as they are very reasonable directly from them, iirc.

Surplus mags are out there, and cheap as fuck. Stay away from the parkerized mags tho, they tend to have problems. Any blued or PVD coated magazine will be good to go.

are "off brand" glocks (3d printed, PSA, glock style) safe or should I just get a name brand glock?
The Ruger RXM looks to be the "best" of the budget Gen 3 Glock clones, so far.
 
I'll never get how the PPK gained the traction it did.
Well, there's a reason most PPKs are in .32. And it's actually quite pleasant to shoot in the caliber it was made for.

do most states let you qualify for a ccw with a .22? and I'll follow your advice and save up.


sorry if this is a stupid question but are there any pistols that are as utilitarian as a normal ar-15/m-16. I know guns are like bikes and cars where people's individual needs and preferences guide what they buy but are there any pistols that are just: "gun"? Just as you get a toyota carolla for your first car,If I came you and asked for the toyota Corolla of rifles you would probably point me to a stock ar-15 with ambi safety/mag release. what is the Toyota Corolla of pistols?
Have you considered buying a used pistol? I have no idea what the market is like where you live, but I've had some very good deals on used guns, but YMMV.
 
Well, there's a reason most PPKs are in .32. And it's actually quite pleasant to shoot in the caliber it was made for.


Have you considered buying a used pistol? I have no idea what the market is like where you live, but I've had some very good deals on used guns, but YMMV.
Wasn't Bond's PPK actually in .32 as well? Book lore iirc was that he carried a Beretta in .25 ACP before that, lmao.
 
are "off brand" glocks (3d printed, PSA, glock style) safe or should I just get a name brand glock?
I am not too familiar with the 40 million flavors of glock clones that exist. A glock guy would have to come in and hopefully give you an honest opinion. I would say that you can get a real glock for extremely reasonable prices considering the reliability. So it rather stick with the known factor if I have going to carry it in my pants all day.
 
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