2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

All of this is a scheme to get the arab leaders to rebuild it and not to make God’s chosen people pay a single dime for the destruction they caused and then pressure the arab leaders to give it to israel for some shitty arms deal which is essentially the Abraham accords agreement.

Nah, it's the pals and arab's bill to pay. They've been charging this shit for years on credit and a litle over a year ago, the bill came due.

 

[Surfin Terf]

Give it to me straight.

President Trump, best buddies with Bibi no doubt, claimed there are 1.7 million residents left in Gaza (before the war its estimated 2.3 million).

That would mean over 600,000 dead.

Do you think President Trump is correct?

The alternative is that Trump said something without being fully informed (yeah right)… using Occam’s Razor, I think the only logical conclusion is that Israel committed genocide

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Holy shit the latest hostages look starved. Wonder if any global media will show how they look now

 

[555777555]

Wonder if any global media will show how they look now

If they do, they will find a way to blame Israel.

 

[Dana scully]

They should bomb the Iranian nuclear and oil facilities. Lack of oil revenue will cause the regime to collapse.

The US military has ran this simulation and they didn’t win against Iran, it just has to be nuclear or nothing really but that’s not good for anyone.
Also US didn’t win or achieve anything in the Afghanistan and Iraq war, the US loses to fucking peasants pretty regularly and you think they have a chance against Iran who has a 100m of population and
potentially nuclear power?

 

[Just_Somebody]

The US military has ran this simulation and they didn’t win against Iran, it just has to be nuclear or nothing really but that’s not good for anyone.
Also US didn’t win or achieve anything in the Afghanistan and Iraq war, the US loses to fucking peasants pretty regularly and you think they have a chance against Iran who has a 100m of population and
potentially nuclear power?

Which wargame are you talking about? Would be an interesting read, but you realize bombing some infrastructure isn't the same as a full-scale invasion/occupation, right?

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[555777555]

Also US didn’t win or achieve anything in the Afghanistan and Iraq war, the US loses to fucking peasants pretty regularly and you think they have a chance against Iran who has a 100m of population and
potentially nuclear power?

The US is the strongest military by far. They didn't "win" in Afghanistan and Iraq because they invaded those countries for the military industrial complex profits. Neither Afghanistan nor (post Gulf war) Iraq were genuine threats. The MIC just wanted more profits.

Iran poses a serious threat to the world and Iran will be taken care of.

 

[celebrityskin]

More seriously, no one knows how many Arabs are in Gaxa since they have a vested interest to inflate population numbers to appear legitimate.

African countries like Nigeria often do this as well.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The US is the strongest military by far. They didn't "win" in Afghanistan and Iraq because they invaded those countries for the military industrial complex profits. Neither Afghanistan nor (post Gulf war) Iraq were genuine threats. The MIC just wanted more profits.

Iran poses a serious threat to the world and Iran will be taken care of.

technically people thought Iraq was a threat due to sheer size but it ended up folding nearly immediately against modern weaponry. But decades of media propaganda created the illusion they weren't a threat and it's all the MIC's fault as if the media didn't join the war effort in the starting years.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Iran poses a serious threat to the world and Iran will be taken care of.

Most Iranian exiles and many Iranians in Iran probably wouldn't mind. The biggest pedophile mullah haters are Iranians who fled or whose families fled because of the Islamic takeover.

 

[Dana scully]

Which wargame are you talking about? Would be an interesting read, but you realize bombing some infrastructure isn't the same as a full-scale invasion/occupation, right?

Here and Here also if you want more listen to This
So here the thing Qatar and Saudi Arabia will not let the US bomb Iran from their territory Nor will the UAE. The US can just use its civilian factories to build a level 10 airbase in al-Jawf province, The Saudis will demand the US to negotiate, because if the Saudis get involved in the war Iran will level their oilfields with missiles and their desalination plants. The Saudis got a wake up call when the Houthis hit that oil field in 2019.

Iran poses a serious threat to the world and Iran will be taken care of.

Okay so the issue is the only access point is the Straight of Hormuz, the logistics are almost impossible to get a large personnel carrier into, not to mention this process is slow and takes several months.

Also weigh in that it’s surrounded by mountains and defense systems that shave been built up for decades. It’s shallow as hell.
You cannot just air drop thousands of troops either this isn’t call of duty, also this is all if China doesn’t get involved.
So the only option the US has left to win is to go full on nuclear but this could involve russia and china joining in and you have a situation where WW3 starts because of jews insane prophecies

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Give it to me straight.

President Trump, best buddies with Bibi no doubt, claimed there are 1.7 million residents left in Gaza (before the war its estimated 2.3 million).

That would mean over 600,000 dead.

Do you think President Trump is correct?

Nonbias third party estimations put the combatant to civilian dead ratio at around 1:1. in urban warfare this is practically unheard of. Normally the ratio is something like 20 dead civilians for one dead combatant. Numbers normally range from 46-66% of all dead in urban warfare are civilians. The Israelis have been terrible at releasing their own estimated numbers of dead (non Israeli) civilians but what numbers they have released match the independent analysis. scroll down to see the report

Hamas routinely fucks with numbers (fighters are marked as female civilians, or children. fighting age increased to make it seem like 18 year olds are kids etc). If half of gaza was killed it would be empty.


In the end it's like trusting the Chinese, you really can't because no one is allowed to push back against the state narrative, unlike western, free democracies like the usa and Israel, where everything gets scrutinized (for good or bad).

Which wargame are you talking about? Would be an interesting read, but you realize bombing some infrastructure isn't the same as a full-scale invasion/occupation, right?

Also the Iranian people would never stand for a full on invasion. They might hate the regime but they despise external invaders. The only thing the USa would need to do would need to park a carrier fleet nearby and re-create the opening air battle of the operation desert storm. That action alone would destroy the regime and allow the people to rise up.

 

[FedPostalService]

So here the thing Qatar and Saudi Arabia will not let the US bomb Iran from their territory Nor will the UAE. The US can just use its civilian factories to build a level 10 airbase in al-Jawf province, The Saudis will demand the US to negotiate, because if the Saudis get involved in the war Iran will level their oilfields with missiles and their desalination plants. The Saudis got a wake up call when the Houthis hit that oil field in 2019.

The Burgers have 11 strike carrier groups and they aren’t in the mood to look like pussies anymore.

 

[Squid Bitch]

Hamas propaganda video of today's three released hostages, featuring footage of them being held in the tunnels:

( x ; a )

On October 7th, Eli Sharabi and Ohad Ben-Ami were abducted from Kibbutz Be'eri, while Or Levy was taken captive from the Nova Festival. Levy's wife, and Sharabi's wife, two daughters, and brother, were all murdered. Both men were reportedly unaware of this fact until returning home today.

Today vs. before abduction:

( x ; a )

Now compare that to the Gazan famine-and-genocide surviving hamplanets who attended today's circus show:

( x ; a )

Bonus lol:
Fucking inbreds in Gaza must be so used to seeing birth defects and genetic abnormalities that they didn't even notice that the hand on the AI slop banner they printed had six fingers:

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Newest cope on Oct 7th is that Israel was responsible for all the deaths and Hamas dindu nuffin.

 

[mold]

I WANT MY BEAUTIFUL BEACHFRONT GAZA CONDO AND DADDY TRUMP IS GOING TO GIVE IT TO ME DOOMERS TO THE LEFT

 

[Surfin Terf]

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Newest cope on Oct 7th is that Israel was responsible for all the deaths and Hamas dindu nuffin.

Newest? They've been saying that since October 2023

 

[Haftag]

The US military has ran this simulation and they didn’t win against Iran, it just has to be nuclear or nothing really but that’s not good for anyone.
Also US didn’t win or achieve anything in the Afghanistan and Iraq war, the US loses to fucking peasants pretty regularly and you think they have a chance against Iran who has a 100m of population and
potentially nuclear power?

Having the will to use any weapon is just as important as, if not more than, having it. Iran, heck even Hezbollah could've ended Shitrael for real, and didn't.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

The Burgers have 11 strike carrier groups and they aren’t in the mood to look like pussies anymore.

Losing a single carrier would be a huge blow, still. Sending a carrier into a narrow "green water" environment like the Persian Gulf would be a bad idea.
If nothing else, the advantage of a shore-based missile system is they can basically reload indefinitely while a ship-based VLS is going to have to return to port to reload.

That being said, there's sea access to Iran which isn't the Persian Gulf, and Iran happens to be surrounded on one side by Arabs who hate it, and Iraq which is basically a "playground" for both sides.
USAF birds tend to have longer reach than USN birds, and Israel managed to pull off aerial strike operations over Iran recently.

The problem with the US isn't that its gear isn't good, its warfighters aren't capable, its intelligence is lacking or that its commanders are inherently inept; rather the issue is that you'll get a very effective spearhead of the above followed up with political bullshit.
I said the same thing about fighting the cartels with the US military in Mexico. You have, at best, 2-3 years before the mission goes from a basic standard-issue "destroy enemy/kill leader/overthrow government" to fucking 69 bazillion dollars and 20 years of soldiers getting shot at to bring gender education and heckin fair elections to [hostile country you invaded].