US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[behindyourightnow]

don't see how you can argue troonism enables surrogacy for gay men when the regular LGB does that all just fine.

I don't think you're wrong, but I think you're missing the narrative/emotional component of all this, which troonery does a particularly good job of subverting. No matter what LGB permits, inside the "realm" of LGB you still have women and men who exist and give birth to and father children respectively.

If you rebrand the category of "woman" to be nothing but a feeling, if you make words like "woman" and "mother" taboo and outdated (and in some cases, no longer acceptable to use in professional literature), it becomes more palatable to (for example) talk about separating babies from their mothers. Not on a logical level (which most people don't think on anyway) but a narrative level. Mother is an almost sacred word to most humans. Gestating parent or uterus haver is not. "Separating infants from gestating parents" doesn't light up the amygdala like "taking a baby from a mother."

It sounds woo-woo but it matters. We wouldn't still be using phrases like "collateral damage" or "extraordinary rendition" (or hell, "gender-affirming care") if concept rebranding didn't work.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

I don't know who 'the right people' are to deliver this message, because they won't listen to the right and dems certainly aren't going to be openly questioning this anytime soon.

I had one of them tell me the other week that the only way they’d believe Covid came from the lab would be an official Chinese government statement, because anyone else could be compromised.

Some who wander are, in fact, lost.

 

[Breadbassket]

Which side are you all gonna be on in 2120? Choose wisely.

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None because I'll probably be dead.

 

[LeChampion1992]

I once knew a guy who was an Oath Keeper and was the first to tell me about the organization well over a decade ago. My first reaction was "this sounds like a fed honeypot." He insisted it was not. I wonder what happened to that idiot. He had TS clearance and I bet he lost it.

The oath keepers were initially not a psyop the problem is most of the oath keepers ended up being entrapped and liberal media did their usual horror stories so naturally Karen in Philly thinks oath keepers are super serial nazis who want to murder their pronouns kid if maga man wins when the reality is oath keepers are like the boyscout (clean) version of the michigan milita.
Sadly facts don't matter being even a constitutionalist = nazi because you're not progressive.
That being said a lot of oath keepers are exceptional people like any movement expect there to be criminal grifters inside.

 

[California Newt]

You guys know there's gonna be baby farms, right? That's the long-term goal here.

 

[Molag Bal]

lmao nice schizobabble bud, so you're telling me the DNC had the big corpos of the agriculture industry in their pocket the entire time, and only NOW they're gonna use them to raise food prices?, why didn't they do this during his first term, that would have been a quick and easy way to make him unpopular with the normie voters, better yet, why didn't cash in some favors to lower the price of food when the dems were in control?, they could have retained the presidency and majority control of the government by doing this one simple thing.

Food prices already rise under uniparty governments because

1. They refuse to push back on the food industry raising the food prices for profit
2. Population growth via mass immigration also means demand for food increases
3. Stacking more and more food production restrictions on top of the previous ones in the name of 'environmentalism' also means less and less food gets produced
4. Foreign aid allows nearby shitholes to buy food, which drives up the prices long-term

The development of food prices under Trump 1.0 wasn't in sorry enough of a state to leverage it for election purposes that fast, but it is now. So given the tools, they can accelerate the downward trend they were already fostering under Biden and then blame the impact on Trump, so the niggercattle allow them to reappoint a uniparty government and then go back to the prices rising at a more gradual rate.

Also, one part of your post shows an astounding lack of understanding on who is in charge in a 'representative democracy'.

you're telling me the DNC had the big corpos of the agriculture industry in their pocket the entire time

The corpos aren't taking marching orders from the DNC, it's the other way round, the DNC takes marching orders from the corpos. And between the corpos, there are arrangements where some leverage power over others. Food manufacturers have to bend the knee to the banks just like anyone else, as the banks can easily just crank up interest rates on pre-existing debt and kill any business of their choosing on a whim. You're telling me the same businesses that force entire industries to tow a left-wing political line via ESG systems don't also wrangle those same industries into sabotaging countries to install left-wing governments?

 

[LaxerBRO]

Carry it for nine months, deliver it, look it in its eyes, feel a life in your arms and see every possible future in it, and try and give away a literal piece of yourself after all that. It doesn't take much digging to find cases of mothers who can't go through with it. More than that, why can't these couples just adopt? There are already orphans out there, and it's not like it's their flesh and blood in either the case of adoption or surrogacy, so what's the hangup?

Regarding the flesh and blood aspect, while its not the majority of cases some gay male couples have sisters that are willing to be a surrogate with the other male partners sperm. Technically, the couple with their surrogate baby will be related via flesh and blood to both parties.

As to surrogacy itself, its almost pointless to regulate.

 

[Breadbassket]

Mexican nationalist who is operating as an "immigrants right activist" has been arrested in the United States for doing nationalist things.

"This Is Mexican Land Motherf***er": Woman Replaces US Flag With Mexico's​

A California woman was arrested on Thursday after she allegedly replaced a US flag with the Mexican at Hart Park in Bakersfield. Crystal Aguilar was arrested for slashing the chain securing the flagpole before throwing the Stars and Stripes in the mud and raising the Mexican flag in its place, according to reports. She was taken into custody on charges of vandalism and trespassing.

The Kern County Sheriff posted a video of the incident and arrest on YouTube. In the video, the 24-year-old is seen resisting arrest as rangers hold her down while she repeatedly threatens to have them and their families killed. “You're not going to tell me what to do, this is Mexican land, mother******," she was heard yelling in the video.

At around 9:36 am, the police responded after receiving multiple reports of a person attempting to steal the American flag from the park entrance. Upon arrival, park rangers found Aguilar's white sedan stuck in the muddy grass near the flagpole.

When the rangers approached, they found Aguilar had already removed the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag. Reports indicate that when park rangers attempted to detain her, she physically resisted and made verbal threats. "My dad is going to kill you and all your family. You think this is a joke. It's not," she said.

She was booked on charges of PC 69 for threatening a police officer, PC594 for vandalism, and PC148 for resisting arrest, trespassing, and marijuana possession. Aguilar was booked at Lerdo Jail and is scheduled to appear in court on Monday.

According to KBAK, Aguilar, a well-known immigrant rights activist in Kern County, recently protested against ICE raids in her area by claiming that her Mexican parents were deported when she was a young girl.

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[CharlesBarkley]

lol at a fat mexican bitch thinking "Man, you know what would be good in my sperg out session? Threatening to kill the cops and their families while they have everything recorded."

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

 

[Total Annihilation]

Would there happen to be a website or a tracker that has counted all the spending DOGE has found/defunded so far? It'd be interesting to see a real-time list of who's gotten funding through USAID or various other government funding projects.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Which side are you all gonna be on in 2120? Choose wisely.

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Hispano-Teutons are the most equal of the Three Equal Races. The Shuds are always calling a fucking strike or shuddying up whatever housing arcology the Soyim built. And speaking of, those cheap bastards are why Greater China has the lead in the colonization of Alpha Centauri. Kolob is nearest to the Heavenly Throne, and it occupation by athiest commies is heresy.

 

[Goofy Logic]

I had one of them tell me the other week that the only way they’d believe Covid came from the lab would be an official Chinese government statement, because anyone else could be compromised.

Some who wander are, in fact, lost.

"Compromised" how? Like misinformation is a war or something.

 

[BigJoey41X]

You're telling me the same businesses that force entire industries to tow a left-wing political line via ESG systems don't also wrangle those same industries into sabotaging countries to install left-wing governments?

that's usually the CIA's job, funny thing is, there HAS been a corporation responsible for the overthrowing of a foreign country's government, and that is United Fruit Company (now known as Chiquita) in Honduras 1963, but that has nothing to do gay leftist crap of today.

1. Stacking more and more food production restrictions on top of the previous ones in the name of 'environmentalism' also means less and less food gets produced

where'd you get this data?, yields, specifically from corn and soybean, two of the nation's largest crops have risen quite comfortably, even from just a decade ago, and what's with the airquotes on "environmentalism"?, sustainable farming is a quite reasonable goal, go look at the Dustbowl to see what happens when we fuck with nature too much on the realm of agriculture.

The development of food prices under Trump 1.0 wasn't in sorry enough of a state to leverage it for election purposes that fast, but it is now. So given the tools, they can accelerate the downward trend they were already fostering under Biden and then blame the impact on Trump, so the niggercattle allow them to reappoint a uniparty government and then go back to the prices rising at a more gradual rate.

they lost the 2024 election on purpose so Trump can get the blame on the food prices?, well maybe that is a little more plausible considering Kamala and Waltz were their replacement picks for Biden.

 

[Two by Four]

Pretty sure Trump has at least one other besides the helmet.

What it is is a mystery, but I hear it imparts a one-time 100% evasion chance against ranged attacks.

I dunno about you, but this is starting to explain why he didn't wanna leave his shoes behind after getting shot at...

 

[Michael Wade]

US Americans. The time has come to remind you of something. I need this idea circulated in the American right.
You've probably already seen the media hype machine kick into full gear pushing the idea of exploding food prices and blaming it on Trump. Their friends in the food industry will without a doubt make active efforts to cause foot shortages on purpose just to blame them on Trump. And they WILL use lawfare to sabotage competing agriculture and food manufacturing. But there is a fix to prevent that in the future.

Growth of most crops for sale is actually illegal for the average person, both inside the US and outside. Not because of safety regulations, you could run a business that's 100% up to standards and you'd still get sued into oblivion. There is a more insidious reason: Because the seeds of those crops are contaminated with GMO seeds, which Monsanto and other similar companies have patented and/or copyrighted. So say you grow a large amount of tomatoes and you sell some of the excess to another person. If of all the tomatoes, there's a single one that's GMO, it doesn't matter how many generations removed it is from the patent owner, it doesn't matter how many mutations it has undergone since it was GMO'd, it doesn't matter how many hands it has traded since the patent owner had them, you are liable for lawsuit and they can completely destroy you.
However, whoever comprises the US government (Like the Trump admin right now) CAN change that. Get a bill signed into law that makes it so you cannot patent crops and so that patents on GMO do not apply to the crops themselves grown with said GMO. If they want to patent specific genetic modifications, that's fine for the time being, they just can't leverage those modifications to prevent others from growing food. That has to stop.

If you do this, no amount of withholding good by corporations will succeed at maintaining a food shortage long-term as you can simply create new businesses that replace them.

Amen brother amen. I've seen documentaries on this subject and it's insane. While your at it there needs to be something done about water rights and shipments. Last I checked there's not much stopping company's from stealing or buying rainwater and natural supplies from American towns and estuaries. They ship out the water to another part of the US or even overseas and the local evaporation cycle is disrupted.

Companies are draining american land dry of water that never comes back. I'm hoping that this is an old issue that was solved earlier .... But I very much doubt it.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

"Compromised" how? Like misinformation is a war or something.

Like, anyone else is compromised by Trump/MAGAts/Republicans. The only one he can trust to not be is the Chinese government.

That’s the level we’re dealing with here.

 

[YarrBlueballs]

They ship out the water to another part of the US or even overseas and the local evaporation cycle is disrupted.

This is literally LA, and every time they've been told that, no, you can't take somebody else's lake, they've gotten the Californian government to seize it. This includes water that is meant for sustaining crops. Or just life in general.

This is your obligatory fuck LA post. Say it with me now; Fuck LA!

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

A large point of all the tranny shit is to make us, force us, berate us into rejecting an inherent, evident, observable, immutable truth we've known for as long as -and most likely even before- we've been human, in favor of a lie we must all participate in upholding. A lie that causes nothing but damage to absolutely everyone, individually and collectively, but uphold it we must.

Once that commanded disregard for your every sense and instinct is ingrained into the people (or at least they're too demoralized to go against it, even if they know it's wrong), they can sell you fucking any bullshit they want.

Have you ever watched The Prisoner?

It has a lot of themes about government/supragovernment technocratic control that are highly relevant today.

I don't believe that and beyond that "great society" was supposed to get fags normalized but the war cut that and a lot of other programs that would have forced 2000s era wokeness way back in the 1960s. JFK basically said "we already have troops holding students at gun point in the US why not go all out" and LBJ agreed and much like WW1 society would have been in a much worse place without it.

RFK JR has had some very different views on what his uncle thought about war in general and Vietnam in particular which directly contradicts what you're saying he said:

Six weeks before his death, on October 11th, 1963, JFK bypassed his own National Security Council and had Bundy issue National Security Action Memorandum 263, making official policy the withdrawal from Vietnam of the bulk of U.S. military personnel by the end of 1965, beginning with “1,000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963.” On November 14th, 1963, a week before Dallas, he announced at a press conference that he was ordering up a plan for “how we can bring Americans out of there.” The morning of November 21st, as he prepared to leave for Texas, he reviewed a casualty list for Vietnam indicating that more than 100 Americans to date had died there. Shaken and angry, JFK told his assistant press secretary Malcolm Kilduff, “It’s time for us to get out. The Vietnamese aren’t fighting for themselves. We’re the ones doing the fighting. After I come back from Texas, that’s going to change. There’s no reason for us to lose another man over there. Vietnam is not worth another American life.”

Then he was assassinated and LBJ went all in.

It's an interesting article, written by RFK Jr for Rolling Stone at a time before he became an apostate and persona non grata at that magazine.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/john-f-kennedys-vision-of-peace-109020/

There's a lot in there which shows how much JFK was pissing off the CIA and MIC by being too much of, in their eyes, a pussy when it came to the commies when they wanted WWIII.

About six months into his administration, JFK went to Vienna to meet Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev with high hopes of beginning a process of détente and mutual nuclear disarmament. Khrushchev met his proposals with bombast and truculent indifference. The Joint Chiefs and the CIA, which had fulminated about JFK’s notion of negotiating with the Soviets, were relieved by the summit’s failure. Six weeks later, military and intelligence leaders responded by unveiling their proposal for a pre-emptive thermonuclear attack on the Soviet Union, to be launched sometime in late 1963. JFK stormed away from the meeting in disgust, remarking scathingly to Secretary of State Dean Rusk, “And we call ourselves the human race.”

So yeah, it's highly likely the CIA and MIC had JFK killed. Place your bets now, because if they don't do the same to Trump, he's releasing the files and we're gonna find out who's right.

 

[Betonhaus]