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You got your responses from other people already but to sumarize the main reason that they are leaving is that the judge's retarded ruling meant that shareholder's votes are now worthless in Delaware. No matter what happens someone with a single share can come in and using that ruling as precedent undo a vote by the other 99.999999% of shares. It basically means shareholders can't own and operate companies as they wish and instead the state of Delaware is the one who has the final say on how it is run.

Needless to say no one wants this. All of Elon's companies already left. Microsoft is leaving and should be gone. TripAdvisor actually had the shareholders revolt that they need to leave Delaware NOW and the management was taking too long to GTFO.

Delaware had something like 1/3rd of all it's revenue come from taxes they got from corporations, so that is now pretty much gone. Except it is worse because those corporations also had HQs in Delaware that needed people there and offices, and those offices had lawyers nearby to come and help from time to time and of course office drones don't run on sunlight and air so there were all sorts of food and office supplies and so on that were there to support them. There is a entire town in Delaware which was basically one huge office complex, to the point that outside of the business hours the entire place went deserted. That is now going to be over.

In a effort to own Elon, Delaware killed the goose that laid golden eggs. Something like half of all their tax revenue is gone, and never coming back.
It's actually even funnier then just that. The bitch probably expected Elon to appeal, and the Delaware Supreme Court, after a couple years of dithering would reverse the ruling. Classic process as punishment.

But instead Elon didn't appeal and went full malicious compliance, and now Delaware is fucked.
 
Wouldn't that be grounds for the easiest appeal ever?
Assuming you get to a non-leftist appeals judge, maybe. But the goal isn't to win, it's to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING, to stop Trump from gutting the Uniparty Machine, even temporarily, while they try and figure out how to stop it for longer. Cutting the contracts and money off is bad, but fixable. Getting a bunch of lifetime drones to quit or forcing them out? That's salting the Earth. They CANNOT allow it.

Remember, he was never SUPPOSED to actually go after the machine. He was SUPPOSED to Win then Lose with Dignity, that's literally his job as a Conservative politician.
 
It’s great that Trump is going to give Elon’s people a way out of that nightmare shithole called South Africa.

The Boers who don’t take the offer ASAP are fucking RETARDED and I’m not going to pity them when they’re destoyed either by communism or feral blacks.
I hope Winston Sterzel's (the ADVChina dude) dad makes it out. He's been trying to convince his parents to leave that shithole for years.
 
It's actually even funnier then just that. The bitch probably expected Elon to appeal, and the Delaware Supreme Court, after a couple years of dithering would reverse the ruling. Classic process as punishment.

But instead Elon didn't appeal and went full malicious compliance, and now Delaware is fucked.
So what happens to Delaware now? If my understanding of court rulings is correct, it's not impossible to reverse that court ruling unless someone appeals it - and all the companies chose to get up and leave instead.
 
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Now this is the quality entertainment I voted for.

You guys know there's gonna be baby farms, right? That's the long-term goal here.
Yep. Gays, celebrities, and gay celebrities are "normalizing" surrogacy, which will end up being a million/billion dollar business. Turning women into brood mares is a leftist-elitist goal.
My basic understanding is that adoption is actually really expensive for some reason and difficult to get the ball rolling on.
It doesn't have to be. At least one blue state (Oregon comes to mind) is banning Christians from adopting if they don't pledge to lgbtlmnop doctrine. Adoption has layers upon layers of bureaucracy because everyone has to get paid to do nothing but push a piece of paper when they feel like it. Like everything else in this country, it needs to be gutted and rebuilt so children don't languish in foster care, but they also don't get sent to families who abuse them.
 
Something like half of all their tax revenue is gone, and never coming back.
The Delaware judge ruined her state because of her ruling against Trump. All the corporations are leaving because of the precedent she set to own Elon. 🤣
The funniest thing is that revenue is never going to come back. All it takes for a one instance of retardation to scare someone off, and Delaware doubled down when there was a chance to back out of the decision. No business is going to park itself in Delaware after that.
Wouldn't that be grounds for the easiest appeal ever?
The point of it is to delay so they can ruin as much as possible. Trump needs to tell them to get fucked and keep going.
So what happens to Delaware now? If my understanding of court rulings is correct, it's not impossible to reverse that court ruling unless someone appeals it - and all the companies chose to get up and leave instead.
What promise does any company have that a judge in Delaware won't pull that shit again?
Not until that fat fuck comes with my onion rings.
 
Left parties refusing to coalition with moderate right parties is how Hitler became chancellor without a majority. The socjus left hate to be reminded of this fact; it crushes their entire foundational narrative.
that's probably why germany is acting so retarded, maybe they think it will work differently this time if they just try hard enough...

Imo they should rename it Fort Lee.
for the butthurt alone

then put a statue at the entrance, good luck trying to topple that next time.
 
There is a entire town in Delaware which was basically one huge office complex, to the point that outside of the business hours the entire place went deserted.
Probably one of the cities in this video.

Edit: specifically Wilmington
 
Wouldn't that be grounds for the easiest appeal ever?
It should be because under Rule 65, which is what you have to follow to get a TRO, the movant (the states here) has to certify that they had good reason to not provide notice to the non-movant (the US here). This is usually for emergency rulings on a short notice where irreparable harm has to be avoided.

For example, if there's a protest encampment going on where the municipal authority is trying in the middle of the night to unlawfully bulldoze the protestor camp and break them up, the protestors could seek a TRO at an odd hour from a judge saying "We have this immediate problem occurring where if we don't act immediately, there will be irreparable harm in the form of bulldozing our protest and breaking it up without due process of law. We tried to contact the city but it's the middle of the night and we can't wait for them to show up, because by that time it will be too late. Please freeze the situation so nothing is irreparably harmed, and then we can have a hearing with all the parties to determine whether this can proceed ASAP."

That's not what's happening here. The purported unlawful conduct has already been occurring, and the opposing party is extremely available to respond immediately. It would be hard to find a party that is more available to respond than the United States, whose lawyers (the US Attorney) are stationed right next door to the judge. The action being stopped is also not so obviously wrong that it has to be stopped. And there are questions about whether an injunction is proper given that the harm has already occurred to some extent. There are also questions about whether the states have standing and whether the complaint states claims that could pass a Rule 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss or Rule 56 motion for summary judgment (which is relevant to the preliminary injunction standards, which this should have been treated as a motion for). And there are questions about whether this is even a justiciable controversy—meaning that there are certain controversies involving the political process and executive/legislative branches that courts don't involve themselves in because they are part of the political process and not amenable to judicial interference.

Part of the problem is that the ruling, as far as I can tell, was from the bench. Given the extreme disruption which this TRO aims to cause to the functioning of the executive branch, there are huge questions about constitutionality and justiciability that need to be addressed in some form so that the ruling is memorialized for effective appellate review. That did not occur here at all. That's really bad, because there needs to be something exhibiting the reasoning of the court so that it can be determined on appeal whether the ruling was proper or not. The absence of any written reasoning makes this look like an attempt to insulate the ruling from effective appellate review, which is extremely improper.

For contrast, the judge that initially blocked the birthright citizenship executive order said from the bench that constitutional precedent stands against what the US government was trying to do. You may disagree with whether the constitutionality is improper, but it at least referred to a reason for the order. And that can be reviewed on appeal in the sense that a court could go look de novo at the interpretation of the Constitution and the cases which form the basis for birthright citizenship to determine whether the judge's ruling was proper.

I can't stress how extremely improper this ruling on the Treasury is. Both on the merits and procedurally, it's fraught with impropriety. Part of the rule of law is not just obeying the judicial review powers of the judiciary, but also the judiciary acting carefully to make sure its rulings are properly explained, procedurally proper, and cautiously drawn to not go further than necessary in interfering with the conduct of the parties. A court should never issue an unreasoned ruling of this magnitude without the basic buy-in of the non-moving party to the process that resulted in the ruling. Judges should not be pushing parties to the edge of reason and daring them to disobey, especially when it could appear to be for political reasons. That's part of our separation of powers and the character of our Article III judiciary. Otherwise, you breed disrespect for the courts. And when nobody believes in the power of judicial resolution anymore, the natural result is to go back to ye olden days of early Anglo-Saxon resolution of disputes (which is what happens in the third world and tribal societies all the time), i.e. killing each other.
 
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