Vocaloid and its Community - autistic slapfights over anime musical instruments

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I bring news of thee and sorrow....also hopefully this hasn't been planning on to be posted elsewhere, but it looks like Caststation/Channel, an artist known for his suggestive Miku drawings, has decided to retire from doing them due to the increasing hate for said art. Archive
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Ignoring the whole loli shit for a second, its obvious this is due to the humongous surge of popularity in his art thanks to 2 songs: Rabbit Hole and Mesmerizer. These two are brightly colored, have cartoony artstyles, and both have deeper meanings about what they really are....and both attracted the Western zoomer fanbase in massive droves thanks to them (especially Mesmerizer it seems, despite the song actually being about the overdosing of escapism and its negative effects). Not a surprised that there is a connection between this choice and the hardcore puritan western fans that seem to have been dogpiling on him (or her, probably).

Reactions seem to be a mix of agreeing with the changes or outright rage in the comments, and rage on 4chan and other places (I don't really check much about it), and while the message comes off as a choice in it, the PFP shows that Miku behind bars so I think this was more like him being "under arrest" for doing them. Fuck zoomer Twitter users.

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While I don't doubt there has been some harasament from western fans, it is worth noting Channel has been recently receiving harassment/hate from JP Vocaloid fans, for an even stupider reason.

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TL;DR JP Vocaloid fans were harassing Channel for drawing Luka with the wrong eye color. Seriously.
 
TL;DR JP Vocaloid fans were harassing Channel for drawing Luka with the wrong eye color. Seriously.
And then, while they were calling Channel a "trend hopper", others hopped onto the trend to attack Channel for any reason they could find, and that happened to include the impurity of some of their artworks. Of course, western assholes happened to be there because they live to hurt others or something.
 
Tanjiro Taidana, a creator known for his Kasane Teto covers, has been revealed to be a groomer:
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TL;DR - Tanjiro ran a Discord server where a minor posted suggestive art. This spiraled into a years long e-relationship where he exchanged nudes and sexted with said minor (7 - 8 year age gap is all we know in terms of ages.) He's officially on hiatus, assumed to be a permanent one.
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TL;DR - Tanjiro ran a Discord server where a minor posted suggestive art. This spiraled into a years long e-relationship where he exchanged nudes and sexted with said minor (7 - 8 year age gap is all we know in terms of ages.) He's officially on hiatus, assumed to be a permanent one.
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This honestly sucks to hear. This guy was the face of Teto fans and Teto users, and although imo his covers are a tad bit overtuned in many instances, he still made somewhat of an impact.
 
Tanjiro Taidana, a creator known for his Kasane Teto covers, has been revealed to be a groomer:
Christ, I was looking for one of his songs today and wondering where his channel has gone. What a travesty for Teto representation.
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imo his covers are a tad bit overtuned in many instances
I always liked him because he was one of the few creators holding the line for old UTAU against SynthV, and he was really good at it. His Teto-centered remix of Triple Baka is burned into my mind as the real version of the thing now.


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Wasn't aware of how much drama there was in the Vocaloid community before this thread. I guess all communities have a massive amount of autism to them. I instinctively avoided the English Vocaloid community and I'm glad I did.

Since Project Sekai has been mentioned here before, apparently one of the characters in it called Mizuki is a tranny now.
 
Wasn't aware of how much drama there was in the Vocaloid community before this thread. I guess all communities have a massive amount of autism to them. I instinctively avoided the English Vocaloid community and I'm glad I did.

Since Project Sekai has been mentioned here before, apparently one of the characters in it called Mizuki is a tranny now.
That was a given, the character was always drawn looking like a girl and with a female VA. What's new is they appear to be going with some 41% storyline (obviously Mizuki won't really do it, they'd never kill or permanently remove a gacha game character)
 
That was a given, the character was always drawn looking like a girl and with a female VA. What's new is they appear to be going with some 41% storyline (obviously Mizuki won't really do it, they'd never kill or permanently remove a gacha game character)
I've always hated these kinda of "femboys" because they're already just flat chested moeblob girls with dicks. So any kind of trooning out with them doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
 
Looks like the official rules on fanart and stuff with Crypton's Vocaloids are getting updated, and from what I've seen translated a few of the retweets have said it was done in response to someone else doing something 'bad faith'....if anyone can properly translate this it would be great.
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Looks like the official rules on fanart and stuff with Crypton's Vocaloids are getting updated, and from what I've seen translated a few of the retweets have said it was done in response to someone else doing something 'bad faith'....if anyone can properly translate this it would be great.
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https://www.crypton.co.jp/cfm/news/2024/12/04character_guideline < Link to the news post in question, please include this (and/or the tweet link) in your post body next time to make it easier to find.

Notice Concerning Guidelines for the Use of Our Characters

Thank you very much for your continued patronage of our company and the services and products we operate, and for your support of our characters.

Recently, we have received many concerns from fans about the use of some of our characters and media coverage of them, mainly through social media and social networking services. We sincerely regret this and we are very sorry for your concern.

We would like to reiterate that from the beginning, our characters can be used in creative activities by individuals in accordance with the following guidelines.

Guidelines for Character Use: https://piapro.jp/license/character_guideline

These guidelines allow creators who wish to engage in derivative works to use our characters for derivative works within the scope permitted by the Peer Pro Character License (hereinafter referred to as “PCL”), which is a license agreement, without having to contact us directly to obtain confirmation. The use of our characters is subject to the terms and conditions of the PCL. We do not issue individual licenses for the use of our characters.

We would like our characters to be used as freely as possible in creative activities that are not for profit. We are very grateful to the many creators who have used our characters and software to create numerous works of art.


There are various types of creative activities, however, the following are prohibited in all of them.

Using derivative works for advertising or promotional purposes.

Using another person's work under the false pretense that it is one's own.

Use of derivative works in a manner that reduces the value of the character.

Using derivative works to offend or injure others.

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In recent inquiries and comments, we have received many comments regarding the use of our characters, including those mentioned above, and we are deeply concerned about this. We apologize that we are unable to respond to each individual inquiry.

Creative activities are inherently free, and we ask that you respect our characters in this regard. We ask that you consider whether or not your activities are within the guidelines.

Our characters have certainly been able to continue to exist because of the freedom of creative activity.

Our characters are the hub of creation, the storytellers of our creators' thoughts, and the symbol of Mirai. We ask for your continued consideration so that they may continue to exist in the future.

This is probably the relevant part:
There are various types of creative activities, however, the following are prohibited in all of them.

Using derivative works for advertising or promotional purposes.

Using another person's work under the false pretense that it is one's own.

Use of derivative works in a manner that reduces the value of the character.

Using derivative works to offend or injure others.
 
There are various types of creative activities, however, the following are prohibited in all of them.

Using derivative works for advertising or promotional purposes.
Using another person's work under the false pretense that it is one's own.
Use of derivative works in a manner that reduces the value of the character.
Using derivative works to offend or injure others.
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Hmm...looking at it, that's actually quite normal. Probably has something to do with that "fictosexual" guy who married Miku.
 
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Bumping for new controversy with recurring characters! This time project sekai zoomers are taking offense to a song with some relatively minor innuendo. New Caststation video and it has already been privated due to a torrent of harassment in youtube comments/twitter. And some of them from the folks you'd least expect:

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"WOAH WOAH WOAH, I JERK OFF TO PICTURES OF CHILDREN BUT A SYNTH THAT SAMPLED A 10 YEAR OLD GIRL'S VOICE 15 YEARS AGO SAYING "SMALL FRY?" TOO FAR!"

I know we run into zoomer idiocy a lot in this fandom but I just don't understand this. This has to just be Caststation derangement syndrome. There's a lot of concern trolling going on about following Kaai Yuki's guidelines, which are the same generic corporate-ese guidelines copy pasted from every other 'loid, and which are constantly violated by almost every major producer.

The argument that Kaai Yuki was voiced by a child doesn't even make sense because Teto's original samples were also done when her VA was a minor and we all know the shit that has been done with those samples over the years. It's bad faith retardguments all the way down.
 
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Bumping for new controversy with recurring characters! This time project sekai zoomers are taking offense to a song with some relatively minor innuendo. New Caststation video and it has already been privated due to a torrent of harassment in youtube comments/twitter. And some of them from the folks you'd least expect:

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"WOAH WOAH WOAH, I JERK OFF TO PICTURES OF CHILDREN BUT A SYNTH THAT SAMPLED A 10 YEAR OLD GIRL'S VOICE 15 YEARS AGO SAYING "SMALL FRY?" TOO FAR!"

I know we run into zoomer idiocy a lot in this fandom but I just don't understand this. This has to just be Caststation derangement syndrome. There's a lot of concern trolling going on about following Kaai Yuki's guidelines, which are the same generic corporate-ese guidelines copy pasted from every other 'loid, and which are constantly violated by almost every major producer.

The argument that Kaai Yuki was voiced by a child doesn't even make sense because Teto's original samples were also done when her VA was a minor and we all know the shit that has been done with those samples over the years. It's bad faith retardguments all the way down.
Also note that the guy behind it has now taken the song down on BOTH Youtube and NicoNico, they've already bowed down to the crusaders. Possibly UN Pedophiles looking for convenient targets to attack and using sockpuppets/bots to do it too. Needless to say save EVERYTHING from Hiiragi Magnetite and possibly even videos by CAST. I don't know if the UN crusaders would blow this up until they're forced to sink ship and drag other vocaloid artists in it.
 
Also note that the guy behind it has now taken the song down on BOTH Youtube and NicoNico, they've already bowed down to the crusaders. Possibly UN Pedophiles looking for convenient targets to attack and using sockpuppets/bots to do it too. Needless to say save EVERYTHING from Hiiragi Magnetite and possibly even videos by CAST. I don't know if the UN crusaders would blow this up until they're forced to sink ship and drag other vocaloid artists in it.
I don't think the UN is involved (lol) but there is very, very obviously trollshielding at play. The same people who are freaking out over this nothingburger are probably grooming kids into taking HRT in discords.
 
I don't think the UN is involved (lol) but there is very, very obviously trollshielding at play. The same people who are freaking out over this nothingburger are probably grooming kids into taking HRT in discords.
Thing is the United Nations is all but stated to have a paid shill branch that they use to make sure you cannot do anything out of UN norms on social media. And one of these is "no sexualization of both real and fictional children" and it's already there since 2019. So unsurprising that they could be involved or even directly leading it by paying people, using sockpuppets, using bots etc.

The fictional part is important because while real children would be obviously socially unacceptable, banning fictional children as well would cause near-endless amounts of witch hunts over perceived wrongs.

EDIT: Sorry, got the date wrong. It's actually on Feburary 2019. Source: https://archive.is/WmYPl

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This time project sekai zoomers are taking offense to a song with some relatively minor innuendo. New Caststation video and it has already been privated due to a torrent of harassment in youtube comments/twitter.
For a bit more context, the song was Zako by Hiiragi Magnetite. Allegedly, the lyrics weren't even as bad as first thought due to mistranslation:
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In terms of why so many people got mad, Hiiragi also made the giga famous Tetoris, which definitely got more eyes on them. Have some Xitter slapfights!
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Breaking News: Lolicons the most oppressed race :story:
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This situation reminded me of a similar (albeit lesser drama) a while back surrounding Mimukauwa Nice Try by ぬ^50:
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TL;DR - Video seems like just a song where Miku shittalks the listener for sucking at Uno, except it became "controversial" due to the artist referring to her as "Mesugaki Miku", making it a case of authors barely veiled fetish:
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Mesugaki basically refers to a fetish where the loli berates the lolicon, for those who don't know.
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In this case, I presume the reason this one became the subject of ire was due to it being Nu's first song exclusively with Miku, aka the most popular/basic voicesynth, while his others either used Zundamon (less popular until recently) or KAF and were mostly NicoNico shitposts.
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Nu recently made their own cover (warning: earrape):
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To tie it all together, someone made a mashup of both:
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In this case, I presume the reason this one became the subject of ire was due to it being Nu's first song exclusively with Miku, aka the most popular/basic voicesynth, while his others either used Zundamon (less popular until recently) or KAF and were mostly NicoNico shitposts.
Them going witch hunt mode over a Zundamon artist using Miku seems too much of a stretch especially when they do have a easy witch hunt target in mind. Also the backlash is nowhere near this insane because Miku doesn't have a child voicebank unlike Kaai Yuki.
 
Apparently a little bit ago that Sawtowne guy deleted his Mimukawa cover. Whether it's to backtrack from what I've been theorizing as a secret interest in lolishit or to appear socially permissable, he sperged out on Twitter about it in a weirdly vague performative thread. Like nobody gives a shit that you posted lolishit and deleted it. (Original / Archive)

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Sawtowne has a pretty public history of being a denpafag, stuff such as covering the OP for the eroge Figu@mate (which features loli characters) for an MMD collab project with majin_kz.
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Which is my main reason to suspect an undercover lolicon, especially since he spergs so hard against it without even being pressed. From my understanding he wasn't even attacked for the Mimukawa stuff.
 

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Apparently a little bit ago that Sawtowne guy deleted his Mimukawa cover. Whether it's to backtrack from what I've been theorizing as a secret interest in lolishit or to appear socially permissable, he sperged out on Twitter about it in a weirdly vague performative thread. Like nobody gives a shit that you posted lolishit and deleted it. (Original / Archive)

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Sawtowne has a pretty public history of being a denpafag, stuff such as covering the OP for the eroge Figu@mate (which features loli characters) for an MMD collab project with majin_kz.
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Which is my main reason to suspect an undercover lolicon, especially since he spergs so hard against it without even being pressed. From my understanding he wasn't even attacked for the Mimukawa stuff.
is there actually any evidence sawtowne is a man? sorry if OT but they act so female online that i find it hard to believe. not to mention the whole fujoshi song thing.
 
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