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Im surprised this thread is mostly dead considering the massive influx of new vocaloid fans due to Project Sekai. Granted, most of them are just kids so there isnt much to write about them. Sekai is generally a pretty fun game, and definitely scratches the Project Diva/Mirai itch, at least for me. It has quite a high skill ceiling and songs (both new and old) are added regularly. At its core, it is still a gacha game, so microtransactions are huge, but the rhythm parts of the game are accessible to free to plays.
Ive been a fan of vocaloid for over a decade, so Ill sperg a bit about some things Ive seen recently in the community.
There has been some pretty hilarious drama and cows if you know where to look. Most of it has to do with tiering and tiering groups, so basically just stupid slapfights, but some of it is more interesting.
Despite this, it is possible to find very nice people and communities, if you avoid the official server and twitter crowd. The best thing Project Sekai has done for Vocaloid is having songs commissioned for the game from major producers such as MitchieM, Nyatualien, Eve, etc. I truly hope this momentum can later extend to non-cryptonloids. Miku is still always number one, and so many quality voicebanks are ignored. Still, Im hopeful
Ive been a fan of vocaloid for over a decade, so Ill sperg a bit about some things Ive seen recently in the community.
Something I see a lot is people complaining about the influx of Sekai fans. At first I was surprised, but I have a theory that the "old" fans complaining probably got into vocaloid around 2014-2019ish. If you didnt know, vocaloid was quickly dying, with old producers quitting/dying and new ones not making anything special. I assume these people want vocaloid to stay "underground" and they tend to have a superiority complex.
On the other hand, Ive seen and talked to many OLD old fans (myself included) that are very happy to see new fans. A lot of us really thought the community was dead, and while many new fans can be annoying, most are harmless.
On the other hand, Ive seen and talked to many OLD old fans (myself included) that are very happy to see new fans. A lot of us really thought the community was dead, and while many new fans can be annoying, most are harmless.
There has been some pretty hilarious drama and cows if you know where to look. Most of it has to do with tiering and tiering groups, so basically just stupid slapfights, but some of it is more interesting.
To avoid powerleveling Ill be pretty vague.
1. Someone cheating to get second place (t2) in an event.
This caused a lot of people to be very upset, rightfully so. The salt in the wound was the Sekai devs taking far too long to ban him, and they did not compensate the people affected by it (as in, the person in third place should have been moved up to second, but wasnt.)
The cheater had a couple twitter threads with undeniable proof of cheating. His few remaining friends love to say he received death threats due to the threads, but this was never proven. He has seemingly vanished, but I dont care about him enough to look for him.
2. The cancellation of "Revival My Dream"
RMD event was cancelled after people thought the event story and cards were mocking native culture. Sekai devs were already on thin ice for showing some of the characters in dark face paint, so I think they didnt want to risk any more backlash. Now theres a ton of infighting and bullshit meta-political posting in the official discord and on people profiles in game. I dont have an opinion on it.
3. Predators on discord (what else is new...)
There have been a few people known for being weird to minors on various servers, both official and not. Some of them have major cow potential. They are usually very quickly outed and banned.
4. Toxic Tierers
This is a frequent occurrence. "Toxic" tierers range from just outspending competitors to being downright terrible people.
5. Gender/Sexuality debates
Boring and doesnt really matter. Personally I could not care less about peoples headcanons but the ones that talk about it constantly can be annoying.
Maybe Ill add more later.
1. Someone cheating to get second place (t2) in an event.
This caused a lot of people to be very upset, rightfully so. The salt in the wound was the Sekai devs taking far too long to ban him, and they did not compensate the people affected by it (as in, the person in third place should have been moved up to second, but wasnt.)
The cheater had a couple twitter threads with undeniable proof of cheating. His few remaining friends love to say he received death threats due to the threads, but this was never proven. He has seemingly vanished, but I dont care about him enough to look for him.
2. The cancellation of "Revival My Dream"
RMD event was cancelled after people thought the event story and cards were mocking native culture. Sekai devs were already on thin ice for showing some of the characters in dark face paint, so I think they didnt want to risk any more backlash. Now theres a ton of infighting and bullshit meta-political posting in the official discord and on people profiles in game. I dont have an opinion on it.
3. Predators on discord (what else is new...)
There have been a few people known for being weird to minors on various servers, both official and not. Some of them have major cow potential. They are usually very quickly outed and banned.
4. Toxic Tierers
This is a frequent occurrence. "Toxic" tierers range from just outspending competitors to being downright terrible people.
5. Gender/Sexuality debates
Boring and doesnt really matter. Personally I could not care less about peoples headcanons but the ones that talk about it constantly can be annoying.
Maybe Ill add more later.
Despite this, it is possible to find very nice people and communities, if you avoid the official server and twitter crowd. The best thing Project Sekai has done for Vocaloid is having songs commissioned for the game from major producers such as MitchieM, Nyatualien, Eve, etc. I truly hope this momentum can later extend to non-cryptonloids. Miku is still always number one, and so many quality voicebanks are ignored. Still, Im hopeful
Gray doesn't know how to handle a story for the life of her, constantly redesigning her characters and whining about it like a fucking baby when she's supposed to be an adult.
