Vocaloid and its Community - autistic slapfights over anime musical instruments

[Neurotypical Mantis]

how to tell if a vocaloid p is good are not
are they western? if yes, then they're retarded

 

[Valstrax]

how to tell if a vocaloid p is good are not
are they western? if yes, then they're retarded

..what?

Did you mean "An easy way to tell if a Vocaloid producer is good or not is by whether or not they are Western"?

 

[creamy cookies]

how to tell if a vocaloid p is good are not
are they western? if yes, then they're retarded

i dunno, i can name a few western producers that know what they're doing. off the top of my head, ferry, kira, and even ghost sometimes puts out decent music. porter robinson if you can count him, too.

meanwhile some big name jap producers have stagnated hard, see deco*27 with all the same-y edm songs and pinnochio-p with the occasional good song.

i think a better way to put it is if they have ever used their "music" to get on a high horse and stay there do suck cock, eg. tora - who is still chimping out over him winning the raffle "rightfully" and having his prize taken away.

 

[Bicycle Disaster]

i dunno, i can name a few western producers that know what they're doing. off the top of my head, ferry, kira, and even ghost sometimes puts out decent music. porter robinson if you can count him, too.

meanwhile some big name jap producers have stagnated hard, see deco*27 with all the same-y edm songs and pinnochio-p with the occasional good song.

i think a better way to put it is if they have ever used their "music" to get on a high horse and stay there do suck cock, eg. tora - who is still chimping out over him winning the raffle "rightfully" and having his prize taken away.

Speaking of Tora. The cancel-tora-post of the month linked this. ( https://archive.is/HJ3Do )
Apparently someone in Tora's server jacked off on vc and his response was to not ban him for having "exquisite taste". His server has a NSFW area that's accessible to minors.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

i dunno, i can name a few western producers that know what they're doing. off the top of my head, ferry, kira, and even ghost sometimes puts out decent music. porter robinson if you can count him, too.

meanwhile some big name jap producers have stagnated hard, see deco*27 with all the same-y edm songs and pinnochio-p with the occasional good song.

i think a better way to put it is if they have ever used their "music" to get on a high horse and stay there do suck cock, eg. tora - who is still chimping out over him winning the raffle "rightfully" and having his prize taken away.

a lot of japanese p's are shit too, it's just that the ratio is reversed imo
if you want samey music look at masa. literally the same song every time

 

[Emo Supremo]

i dunno, i can name a few western producers that know what they're doing. off the top of my head, ferry, kira, and even ghost sometimes puts out decent music. porter robinson if you can count him, too.

meanwhile some big name jap producers have stagnated hard, see deco*27 with all the same-y edm songs and pinnochio-p with the occasional good song.

i think a better way to put it is if they have ever used their "music" to get on a high horse and stay there do suck cock, eg. tora - who is still chimping out over him winning the raffle "rightfully" and having his prize taken away.

>ferry
i like your optimism but she can't mix to save her fucking life. her music still sounds like it was recorded on a cereal box even though she's been doing this for years.

 

[assigned stupid at birth]

Speaking of Tora. The cancel-tora-post of the month linked this. ( https://archive.md/HJ3Do )
Apparently someone in Tora's server jacked off on vc and his response was to not ban him for having "exquisite taste". His server has a NSFW area that's accessible to minors.
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Tora feels like the lolcow Vocaloid thread's favorite person to hate, and it seems twitter is pretty fed up with him as well.

These two threads (archive 1, archive 2) popped up recently and gained a bit of traction. I think both OPs are run of the mill annoying twitter users, but it's fun to check in on the fandom and see it self cannibalizing as usual.

 

[Bicycle Disaster]

Tora feels like the lolcow Vocaloid thread's favorite person to hate

Funny you say that because whenever Tora's brought up on that thread there's always almost immediate replies telling that anon to drop it. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Tora himself or his orbiters trying to deflect hard.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

meanwhile some big name jap producers have stagnated hard, see deco*27 with all the same-y edm songs and pinnochio-p with the occasional good song.

As someone who's followed Pinnochio-P for a long time, I don't think he's stagnated that hard. In fact I feel like he's had a mini resurgence with his newest album and a lot of covers of the "singles," Loveit making the TikTok rounds, and God-ish reaaally blowing up lately...which I was surprised at considering I felt it was an alright song at best. (I thought Non-Breathe Oblige was one of his greatest ever composition-wise.)

Sure, his view counts aren't like...deco*27 or giga or kanaria level, but I don't feel he is or was the type of producer to want to become "big name" or "high horse" status anyway (he even quit his old major label U/M/A/A last year, which has deco*27 and sasakure.UK, and went indie for said newest album). Don't intend to start a debate cause I'm not that much of a vocaloid die-hard (him and inabakumori are probably the only producers I personally closely follow-ish) so what do I know...I do agree deco*27 has gotten super repetitive lately.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

Funny you say that because whenever Tora's brought up on that thread there's always almost immediate replies telling that anon to drop it. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Tora himself or his orbiters trying to deflect hard.

Tora and his orbiters are retards. Tora's hate base and their orbiters are also retards. As a cover artist who does it for fun, I'd argue CAs fly under the radar for spergy behavior, but then people like Tora or Pika slip up and it's slapfights galore.
Although to be honest, I like Pika, even if they arguably are a garbage person for hanging around Tora and admitting on Twitter and several Discords that they helped Tora pirate Kafu, and bragging about it.

 

[KokoroKoroki]

So, would this be the place to talk about the recent blackface controversy regarding Project Sekai? Not that I play the damn game, but from the looks of it people are combing through it to find anything to claim cultural appropiation, the usual stuff. However, recently the company released an episode where some of the characters dressed as lions or something and people went crazy. Fun stuff.

Spoiler: Open

A hate crime in progress:
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Always some grifting going on:
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Racism everywhere:
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The apology:
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The venn diagram of people why cry cultural appropriation when it's something they don't like and people who ask you to "respect other cultures" when it's something they actually like is a fucking circle.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

This is news from around 2017, and I'm sorry for using TVTropes as a source, but GHOST likes deleting her content and I don't know if anyone archived Simon Berkeley's shit correctly, but GHOST made a "transmedicalist" kiwifarms user OC and even though it's been years, I remember being stoked to see him-- Ironically, Communications was canceled like 2 months after his reveal. He wore a flannel, had a beanie, brown hair & blue eyes-- a twink as well. Anyone archive him?

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

This is news from around 2017, and I'm sorry for using TVTropes as a source, but GHOST likes deleting her content and I don't know if anyone archived Simon Berkeley's shit correctly, but GHOST made a "transmedicalist" kiwifarms user OC and even though it's been years, I remember being stoked to see him-- Ironically, Communications was canceled like 2 months after his reveal. He wore a flannel, had a beanie, brown hair & blue eyes-- a twink as well. Anyone archive him?
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LMFAO ghost thread when

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

LMFAO ghost thread when

If there's a Ghost thread, I'd be excited to see it. Usually I don't give a fuck about nonbinary people, but Ghost is a nonbinary lesbian. That's an automatic she/her most of the time, every enby I know will even admit that's retarded
Ghost also has a habit about lying about people to stir up controversy, denying knowing people even though they might've done...horrific shit, but I don't want to vendetta post when someone already cowtipped Zion, who I definitely think is the number one or two Ghost Orbiter, although almost every major hack western producer is an Orbiter who sucks up to Ghost obsessively
Speaking of which? Let's talk about that. Zion, YoppyVu, Umber, PRiNZ, Monstrosity, Vane(especially that fucking freak, lol, I've got some extensive screenshots of that nondysphoric fuck), and quite a number of others, can be considered Ghost Orbiters, and quite a number of cover artists do it to piss off Ghost because of her obsessive behavior, not that I'm one to talk on that, if I already haven't implied it.
So here's some Ghost Orbiters being tards, just for funsies.

Maybe don't outright admit you're a beaner who's salty about whipipo next time.


The last one was January 2021. It's pretty amusing that I was the next one she sperged at because I called some it/its retard, well, a retard. She also stalks server member's social media, so be warned if you join her server.

I checked Vane's for the first time in weeks and found some gold

Just say you're mad alienating your subscribers and being a racist nigger bit you in the ass

Also fake dysphoria. Even nonbinary people can be both consistent and genuine, as rare as it is. But this dude's afraid to admit be likes drag. How the fuck does a supposed trans person get dysphoria for...their parents using the right pronouns? Just say you're not a real tranny and go lol
I've been stepping away from the community for my sake, for example I refuse to check Zion's account for any reason after the cowtip, and have not checked any of his accounts in weeks(because he has 70 alts), but I just had to see if Vane was still sperging over "wipipo"

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

LMFAO ghost thread when

Hmm, I already replied to this, but we need more crucial information about her. For example, we only know her first name.
Shay(Shannon maybe?) (blank) / GHOST / Marz Mitzi / Ghost and pals / Ghostie-P isn't necessarily within the guidelines to qualify for her own thread.
While Ghost is starting to return to the community, their need to purge everything is absolutely batshit insane, and we've already hemorrhaged so much milk, that unless someone has been archiving since circa 2016, we're mostly fucked, and considering I was a minor at the time, I did not know to archive everything, sadly.
I have their VSQx files, up to Candle Queen, with minimal editing. However, Madotspooki has a second channel dedicated to song archival and an archival server. Fair warning, though. They ban everyone who doesn't have TDS or follow their exact ideology, and due to my already infamous position in the community, I haven't personally seen it. I don't know if they archive art, stories, posts, or anything of that sort. If not, we're fucked because somehow Ghost is better at purging than Pixyteri.
Other than those two major problems, she's basically set for a thread. This can function as either a general community thread, or it can still host orbiters if it's best to have the thread focus solely on Ghost. Regardless, it's up to Null, the mods, and the thread creator.
Edit: I remember Ghost primarily saying her legal name was Shay but said Shannon at another point.

 

[Big Tiddy Bara]

If there's a Ghost thread, I'd be excited to see it. Usually I don't give a fuck about nonbinary people, but Ghost is a nonbinary lesbian. That's an automatic she/her most of the time, every enby I know will even admit that's retarded
Ghost also has a habit about lying about people to stir up controversy, denying knowing people even though they might've done...horrific shit, but I don't want to vendetta post when someone already cowtipped Zion, who I definitely think is the number one or two Ghost Orbiter, although almost every major hack western producer is an Orbiter who sucks up to Ghost obsessively
Speaking of which? Let's talk about that. Zion, YoppyVu, Umber, PRiNZ, Monstrosity, Vane(especially that fucking freak, lol, I've got some extensive screenshots of that nondysphoric fuck), and quite a number of others, can be considered Ghost Orbiters, and quite a number of cover artists do it to piss off Ghost because of her obsessive behavior, not that I'm one to talk on that, if I already haven't implied it.
So here's some Ghost Orbiters being tards, just for funsies.
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Maybe don't outright admit you're a beaner who's salty about whipipo next time.
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The last one was January 2021. It's pretty amusing that I was the next one she sperged at because I called some it/its retard, well, a retard. She also stalks server member's social media, so be warned if you join her server.

I checked Vane's for the first time in weeks and found some gold
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Just say you're mad alienating your subscribers and being a racist nigger bit you in the ass
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Also fake dysphoria. Even nonbinary people can be both consistent and genuine, as rare as it is. But this dude's afraid to admit be likes drag. How the fuck does a supposed trans person get dysphoria for...their parents using the right pronouns? Just say you're not a real tranny and go lol
I've been stepping away from the community for my sake, for example I refuse to check Zion's account for any reason after the cowtip, and have not checked any of his accounts in weeks(because he has 70 alts), but I just had to see if Vane was still sperging over "wipipo"

Vane makes neat music, but the SJW salt just makes it unlistenable. I usually don't judge a person by their art, but with this crazy fake troon I have a strong feeling that Vane wants to be like their characters -- the witch who stole hearts and the current demon genderblobs --wearing borderline fetish attire and "punishing" people who they don't care about.

Monstrosity/Grey - as the one who was in the server, I thought she makes a good job to keep it from degeneracy (there was two pedos but they were quickly kicked, and the community is a nice one in general). Plus she has actually great ideas, and even her wokeness doesn't really spoil it. She doesn't have the bitterness and isn't mentally fucked up like Ghost or Vane. However if she actually stalks people.... Good thing I didn't link my main acc.

Mitzi Mysteria is a whiny retard and deserves her own post, if not a thread.

And finally, about Zion - I heard there once was a drama involving White Glove (who is a lolcow herself), but never learned the details. Is that what you mean by cowtipping?

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

Vane makes neat music, but the SJW salt just makes it unlistenable. I usually don't judge a person by their art, but with this crazy fake troon I have a strong feeling that Vane wants to be like their characters -- the witch who stole hearts and the current demon genderblobs --wearing borderline fetish attire and "punishing" people who they don't care about.

Monstrosity/Grey - as the one who was in the server, I thought she makes a good job to keep it from degeneracy (there was two pedos but they were quickly kicked, and the community is a nice one in general). Plus she has actually great ideas, and even her wokeness doesn't really spoil it. She doesn't have the bitterness and isn't mentally fucked up like Ghost or Vane. However if she actually stalks people.... Good thing I didn't link my main acc.

Mitzi Mysteria is a whiny retard and deserves her own post, if not a thread.

And finally, about Zion - I heard there once was a drama involving White Glove (who is a lolcow herself), but never learned the details. Is that what you mean by cowtipping?

1. I agree with you on the vane thing
2. She also kicks you for making edgy jokes, disagreeing with neopronouns, and insisting that you need dysphoria to be trans
3. I'd be glad to take that bitch down any day
4. Actually, that's the exact opposite of what happened! I posted shit about Zion earlier in this thread, and he and his friend both watch this thread, because we both consider eachother our own personal lolcows. Take this as you will, but I am Glove. Not smart to admit who you are on the farms, but I've implied it almost word for word since day one.
EDIT: If you need information on certain things, I'll provide what I can.
EDIT#2: I also forgot to mention that both Zion and I are FtM, and while I understand differences in opinion, I figured I'd clarify anyways

 

[rotten fruit]

1. I agree with you on the vane thing
2. She also kicks you for making edgy jokes, disagreeing with neopronouns, and insisting that you need dysphoria to be trans
3. I'd be glad to take that bitch down any day
4. Actually, that's the exact opposite of what happened! I posted shit about Zion earlier in this thread, and he and his friend both watch this thread, because we both consider eachother our own personal lolcows. Take this as you will, but I am Glove. Not smart to admit who you are on the farms, but I've implied it almost word for word since day one.
EDIT: If you need information on certain things, I'll provide what I can.
EDIT#2: I also forgot to mention that both Zion and I are FtM, and while I understand differences in opinion, I figured I'd clarify anyways

If you're whiteglove, I'm assuming these are all pictures of you then?

Spoiler

You linked your Twitter on a youtube comment on your channel.

I found your pictures from this [archive] tweet, and here [archive] you are fully admitting it's you. No offense, but admitting that you’re whiteglove was a stupid decision. Looking through your twitter it didn’t take long for me to find you making an utter fool of yourself.

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

If you're whiteglove, I'm assuming these are all pictures of you then?

Spoiler

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You linked your Twitter on a youtube comment on your channel.
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I found your pictures from this [archive] tweet, and here [archive] you are fully admitting it's you.

Yes, absolutely. I won't deny that, I ain't a pussy and already had my face leaked on the farms. Why would I deny the truth?

 

[Big Tiddy Bara]

Ok, Mitzi Mysteria decided to DFE several days ago (youtube, SoundCloud, listography, newgrounds, tumblr; the lost media archival server is gone also) and didn't come back yet. I think she reads this thread. In that case: hi Mitzi! I don't have anything personal with you, you're just fun to watch.