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With a train long and powerful enough you could perform a lateral paternoster invasion, this would allow you to also bring casualties home at the same time. 
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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Echo_Doge
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That's the biggest issue: NATO drone crews. Just look at what's happening in Ukraine right now.
NATO crews are planning and executing a ridiculous amount of the drone strikes and having the Ukies take credit for them. I'm sure if they had the chance, they'd do the same with pretty much anyone they could talk into it.
I knew they got wiped out due to driving vehicles across open ground. But they were driving them on completely exposed and heavily-mined roads...
They went on a literal suicide mission and accomplished nothing.
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The EU would be unable to move a major military force within the bloc’s territory in case of need, a recent report by its financial watchdog stated this week. Bureaucratic hurdles and chaotic logistical planning would prevent a swift deployment, the European Court of Auditors (ECA) concluded in the document.
Brussels has already spent all of its budget allocated for improving military logistics between 2021 and 2027 without achieving the stated goal of “moving military staff, equipment, and supplies swiftly and seamlessly,” the ECA said in a statement accompanying the report.
Funding worth €1.7 billion ($1.76 billion) was spent in just two years and no money was “left in the pot by the end of 2023,” the report said, adding that organizing military movements within the bloc could still face “significant delays.”
Member states still need to file a notification of cross-border movement 45 days in advance in order to get authorization, according to the paper. One nation’s tanks can also be outright banned from crossing into the territory of a neighboring EU member simply because they are heavier than allowed by the neighbor’s road traffic regulations, the report said. Military logistics directions can also include infrastructure like bridges that are not suitable for heavy equipment, requiring armor to take a major detour, it added.
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That clearly rules out a russian invasion of europe, unless they get all the necessary permits
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Even with all the bureaucrats working overtime it would still fail.
Every big NATO exercise they show the same, critical problems: Cooperation, interoperability and a massive language barrier.
How the F would French troops coordinate with German? Or Spanish with Estonian? Some speak English, many don’t. And good luck listening to some Finnish colonel trying to give a complex order in his broken tourist English over a scratchy radio connection.
The answer is of course to let each NATO countries brigade be responsible for their own little sector of the front… In which case the Russians will simply smash through everywhere there is a seam between two units, surround and destroy. Rinse and repeat.
Even if NATO wasn’t fucked materially (Which it is: Germany has a few hundred tanks. The UK likewise. Some countries don’t even have artillery any more) they’d be totally fucked in the operational part of a war.
And that’s even before considering the fact that the most experienced NATO NCOs/commanders have a few years of experience with counter insurgency warfare. And Russia has hundreds of thousands of veterans with experience in actual warfare.
Procopius
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The latest Russian solution. Protection agasinst kamikaze drones, but still vulnerable to bombers.
Meanwhile on the Ukrainian side they're looking for a shark substitute
Some ideas as to why it took so long to capture Toretsk. Clearly whatever shortages the Russians may have, food is not one of them.
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Not to mention that annual production of Leopards is roughly around 50 vehicles, with another 50 or so completing refurb or modernizations. Its doubtful how much they can scale that, considering the specialist metallurgy that goes into a lot of these vehicles. Can't really order those materials off alibaba.
If its stupid but it works, it ain't stupid. Guess we'll see whether it actually works or not.The latest Russian solution. Protection agasinst kamikaze drones, but still vulnerable to bombers.
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Rumored peace proposal from Trump everywhere this morning.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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It’s a reasonable plan with a few issues.
1: How many European soldiers are we talking about? Ten thousand could be categorized as observers. If it’s 100.000 or more, that’s more like an invasion force.
2: I think the Russians, understandably, will have issues with European “peacekeepers” given the recent history. Why not have the observers come from countries that are genuinely neutral, such as India, Kazakhstan or even China?
3: Just a promise that Ukraine won’t join NATO isn’t enough. The next president can just revert it. A constitutional change for Ukraine is necessary, which can only mean one thing: Elections, referendum and lil’ Z kicked to the curb.
4: The Eurocrats will only try to sabotage this. Trump needs to get out early and make it clear to them that they won’t be a party to the negotiations.
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They should settle 2 million Gazans in that buffer zone and have Israel build a wall towards the Russian side.
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Redditors are having meltdown and want to vomit , because their favorite
Nafo and adjacent groups are nowadays retreating deeper and deeper into delusions. And are purging anyone who does not have unquestionable belief in Endsieg .
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If Putin even accepts a ceasefire much less this he is a gorilla nigger retard. This is Minsk III, it solves nothing and it will go hot again within 10 years.
If the goal is for Russia to be confirmed as a buckbroken little bitch, yes.
Oh wow, Russia gets the territory Ukraine was never going to take back, pay out the ass to rebuild their newly legitimized smoldering ruins and they get to dig up all the civies ukroniggers slaughtered in Kursk while achieving jack of all shit of their geopolitical and national security goals as Ukraine becomes permanently western aligned and remains a revanchist, highly militarized state, btw all the sanctions stay in place
. In exchange, Ukraine gets everything it realistically ever could've gotten out of the conflict and pinky swears to not be in NATO even though NATO countries' troops are now right on the Russian border but for non-NATO reasons .This is a plan where 'compromise' means settling for less then everything while the other side gets to graciously accept none of their goals being met even in a partial capacity.
Stupid fucking boomer should've immediately said they can't negotiate with the kike because he has no mandate and made elections a prerequisite to even begin serious negotiations, instead he is going along with the "erections after the war uwu" horseshit like a rube even allowing it to somehow become a term in the negotiations. Wow, Z man promises to allow elections in his own country, what a fucking master class of Russian geopolitical maneuvering.
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I'll let others discuss why this is a banter deal for Russians and Ukrainians, but let's talk about how this is a awful deal for the Euros, especially the British:
- If you're a hawk, this deal is basically Chamberlain's Munich pact all over again. No politician is going to be able to sell this deal without admitting that it's an offer of land for peace, which has been verboten in Europe for almost a century. Not only that, but it will involve the direct participation of European forces to enforce. They won't just be sitting in the cuck chair watching as New Russia gets rebuilt, they will pay for the privilege.
- If you're a dove, then this war becomes your war in perpetuity. In a best case scenario, you get to pour the last dregs of your 20th century patrimony onto the frozen ground of some forgotten Ukrainian village. In a worst case scenario, Private Brzeczyszykiewicz "gets lost" and "accidentally" shoots up a school bus on the Russian side of the DMZ, and now you're in a hot war.
Yes. The Ukrainian neo-nazis are extremely explicit about this: they want Trump to do a cease-fire so they can rearm, reform Ukrainian society in their image more completely, and then do this all again.
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I wouldn't want to get mobilized either, bruh. I'd try to keep my commissar happy.
I am honestly shocked that he wasn't killed under mysterious circumstances at the front.
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Fun detail:
As for the deal, it looks like Trump's "frontline freeze" by another name, given that it essentially formalizes the status quo. Notably Russia doesn't get Odessa, which will be counted as an L by Real Russian Patriots (if RWA is indicative, at least.) The Euros will seethe about it (muh Hitler, muh Chamberlain reeeeeeee) but they've confined themselves to supporting characters in their own story by turning their entire civilization to the development of nothing save metastatic bureaucracy.
TexWiller
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Do they really produce that many?
CapitalBburstard already summed it up pretty spot on.
This could make sense if you replace Europoor and fUKed soldiers with the russian army.
Putin cant be so stupid. wtf. Russia gets to keep what it already has, in change of NATO officially in Ukr. lol.
well...
which btw the europoor have zero change to be able to field. Italy had 5k personnel in various "peace" missions and it was all it could muster, at great cost.
is there really any "neutral" contry? even the swiss have boarded the sinking ship of the western antirussian madness. everybody is either compromised or irrelevant. and the western madmen will never accept china.
constitutions are just pieces of paper, even good ones like the US one.
the traitor Berset, after having almost wrecked Switzerland with the inane C19 measures, moved to a perfect position for a traitor, secretary general of the council of europoor. couple days ago he stated "We cant leave Russia unpunished".
"We" who, asshole. go punish russia yourself, will ya.
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This is another good point. The vast majority of westerners might have forgotten about this war, but for the elite, this conflict is the bedrock of their entire worldview. They cannot accept the possibility that it will end with anything less than a victory parade from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok.
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Yeah fuck the Swiss, they’ve gone full Eurocuck.
As for neutral countries there are plenty.
Egypt for example, Saudi Arabia, the UAE. India and China have both voiced opposition to the war, while not engaging in sanctions.
The central Asian countries (for the largest part) had to sign on to “we don’t like this war!” Statements to keep from getting sanctioned themselves, while simultaneously keeping trade and lines of communication to Russia going.
Many of those countries would greatly enjoy the prestige in being a part of a solution.
And then there’s the best part to having them as peacekeepers: It would absolutely humiliate Eurocuck leaders.
Imagine the mental anal raping Brussels and London would have to endure seeing INDIAN or EGYPTIAN peacekeepers on (sorta) European soil.
It would be the kind of pill to swallow that might just permanently buck break their “We’re kind of a big deal!” Mindset.
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Most likely, they wouldn't lie about such pathetic numbers like that. But its important to remember that they do not produce all those for German service. There's like 15 or 20 countries that field the Leopard 2, and they all share that production one way or another. By comparison, even conservative anti-Russian estimates had them producing 50 of their more modern tanks a month before the war kicked off, and that number ramped up into the low hundreds by now.
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Piggers are winning. Kursk edition.