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There is literally no answer you would agree with because you're a butthurt retard simping for a loser and his ideology that took the most spectacular L in human history decades before you were born
I understand that when anyone wants to cut Israel aid from infinity dollars to less than infinity dollars you turn into a tranny and start flinging the Nazi label around but try to be more subtle at least. Nazi nagging aside you don't provide an answer because you have none.

And the rest of your screed is mic wanking so I guess I was correct (again), American citizens have gained nothing from this "alliance"
 
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Wait until I tell you FDR died mid-fuck with his mistress at her house....
Thats how I wanna go out - Except it was FDR and back in old times. Bitches then look gross.
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This is pretty much what all women looked like in 1930 - except, I guess, more mannish. Can you imagine that wheelchair-loving fuck smashing ass like this? Then can you imagine pulling his corpse out of her and having to bury that dude? Yuck. But thankfully, we have grown past those dark days, and now politicians can get uh... e-thots and bitches with anime wigs. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not sure what is worse.
 
"Someone else could have done it" isn't really an argument. Someone else could have conceivably invented or done anything, so the people who really did don't deserve credit?
i never said they didn't deserve credit. i said that if the only things you can cite are military inventions that were essentially funded by the US, and you also assert that israel is totally fine on its own, we could simply have bought the developed product once israel produced it anyway, no need for us to essentially buy it twice. or, we could have used that money to develop our own version instead.

i'm not making an argument, i'm asking a question that's a bit openended. was that money actually valuable to us if what it got us was either something we'd have gotten anyway through simply buying it because as you said, israel doesn't need US money, or we certainly would have developed on our own if the israelis didn't. the US is not in any shortage of massively important inventions.

i absolutely give props to them for the acquisition of soviet gear, and i doubt that most of our other 'allies' in the area would have been capable of doing that kind of intel gathering/equipment bamboozlement for us, either because they're snakes or because they're retarded muslims. that doesn't change the questions that i have, or the qualms i feel with them.
 
Fair point. They've also killed our diplomats and sunk our ship. The MiG-21 was a very significant discovery and Israelis deserve credit.
I agree with @MetokurGroomedMe
The United States also shot down two UH-60 Blackhawks carrying British personnel over northern Iraq in 1994 which they identified as Iraqi Hinds, killing 26 Britoids. Just one of several friendly fire incidents where US forces merked perfidious Albionese since WW2. Maybe the US has a secret agenda to murder limeys. Actually that would be fine with me tbh

The US and her NATO allies also did Operation Gladio which has been accused of everything from false-flag anti-DeGaulle terrorist attacks to being behind the Greek military coup of 1967. Never mind the glowniggery the KGB got up to. You won't find me saying anyone acted like a gud boi who dindu nuffin
i never said they didn't deserve credit. i said that if the only things you can cite are military inventions that were essentially funded by the US, and you also assert that israel is totally fine on its own, we could simply have bought the developed product once israel produced it anyway, no need for us to essentially buy it twice. or, we could have used that money to develop our own version instead.

i'm not making an argument, i'm asking a question that's a bit openended. was that money actually valuable to us if what it got us was either something we'd have gotten anyway through simply buying it because as you said, israel doesn't need US money, or we certainly would have developed on our own if the israelis didn't. the US is not in any shortage of massively important inventions.

i absolutely give props to them for the acquisition of soviet gear, and i doubt that most of our other 'allies' in the area would have been capable of doing that kind of intel gathering for us, either because they're snakes or because they're retarded muslims. that doesn't change the questions that i have, or the qualms i feel with them.
You're still stuck on the "we would have done it anyway wouldn't we?" But we didn't

Buying it twice is the same thing the US does with Lockheed or General Dynamics or Boeing or BAE, it pays them to develop it, then it pays them for the finished product. Why should we pay them twice? Was that money actually valuable to us? Same logic. Lockheed doesn't spend its own money to develop something then hawk it to the government hoping the government says wow that's kewl sure we'll buy it
 
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The United States also shot down two UH-60 Blackhawks carrying British personnel over northern Iraq in 1994 which they identified as Iraqi Hinds, killing 26 Britoids.
so a computer malfunction IFF is the same as the israeli soldiers shooting a ship that every single soldier on the ship maintains had its full markings visible that day? come on man, i try to be generous but this is getting moylish. in the interest of not getting jannied, i'm not gonna shit up the thread anymore.

i can't wait to see how many stories the hotel trump builds in gaza will have.
 
I understand that when anyone wants to cut Israel aid from infinity dollars to less than infinity dollars you turn into a tranny and start flinging the Nazi label around but try to be more subtle at least. Nazi bagging aside you don't provide an answer because you have none.

And the rest of your screed is mic wanking so I guess I was correct (again), American citizens have gained nothing from this "alliance"
If you want an actual legitmate answer, desalination and water treatment technology. The Claude Lewis Carlsbad Desalination Plant in California was made with Israeli assistance
 
If you want an actual legitmate answer, desalination and water treatment technology. The Claude Lewis Carlsbad Desalination Plant in California was made with Israeli assistance
Wikipedo said:
Five lawsuits were brought against the plant, including by the Surfrider Foundation, San Diego Coastkeeper, and the Coastal Environmental Rights Foundation, but none were successful.[4][6]
i used to think the people who called these types of groups death cults were overselling it or being dramatic. i can kind of understand it now. desalination is such an easy if slightly pricy way to solve the water issues basically EVERYWHERE in the united states with almost no problem. it would drop the price of water to nearly zero, and be a net benefit for all of mankind (even if pajeets and nigs never figure out how to harness this technology, fuck em) but they work to undermine even this.

fucking demons.

glad to see this appeal, confirms the line of thinking in the thread that trump wants this shit concrete solid before they steamroll major department audits like the fed and the dod.

does anyone know what level of liberal wackos the first circuit is?

oh no.
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it would drop the price of water to nearly zero
Here’s your problem. If water costs less, it hurts the mega rich California water baron families. Can’t have that.

As a side note, the whole common law for water appropriation in the American West has never made sense to me and is super fucked up. In the east, like rational people, we say that whoever lives next to the water can use the water. But in the west it’s some Byzantine system of who appropriated a beneficial use first historically gets perennial rights to the water source. Makes zero sense and is obviously going to create a problem like California.
 
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i used to think the people who called these types of groups death cults were overselling it or being dramatic. i can kind of understand it now. desalination is such an easy if slightly pricy way to solve the water issues basically EVERYWHERE in the united states with almost no problem. it would drop the price of water to nearly zero, and be a net benefit for all of mankind (even if pajeets and nigs never figure out how to harness this technology, fuck em) but they work to undermine even this.

fucking demons.
There are legitimate concerns on how to deal with the brine byproduct these facilities produce. But I doubt that is a motivator for the environmental groups opposed to these.
 
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