US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[FieldPiece]

You can effectively "shop" for a judge you want if you have the means to do so and in these cases they know who is the "emergency judge" on friday night/weekends in that specific court so that is the only option that could possibly be assigned to them.

You can find which judges will be on call pretty easily. The whole system is a total joke that favors dems almost every single time.

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I retain my observation that people who want to want to become lawyers, dentists, or congressmans are faggots. Anyone who wants to be a judge is guaranteed to be a psycho. Judges should be held to an even higher scrutiny than people seeking top secret need to know info.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I wouldn't be surprised if these Judges are coordinating something considering how fast these restraining orders and calls to pause particular actions of the federal government are coming in.

They are. Judicial obstruction was pretty effective last time so they are doubling down on it.

 

[X Prime]

Thankfully Biden has provided an excellent solution of simply ignoring the judges.

What are they going to do about it? Arrest Trump after Biden straight out ignored SCOTUS? Please.

 

[Not Really Here]

This sort of case already went to the very top with Biden btw and it was ruled he could fire whoever the hell he wants so people coping about how SCOTUS will fix this lol.

And in the Trump Administration, with administrative law judges. It's scare propaganda used as an excuse for meritless lawsuits. The lawyers that signed off on the filing should be disbarred.

Unless there's a specific Federal law, or Constitutional provision covering the termination, all members of the Executive Branch serve at the pleasure of the President.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

I think this is Trump just being cautious and not committing to anything too early. He likes to play with a full hand and avoid committing to and for specifics until he needs to or the right time approaches. This is just way too early.

Presidents do not "name successors", only Emperors do that. If they had asked Trump if he would support JD Vance if he runs for President in 2028, Trump probably would have given a different answer. Trump dodged a poisoned question by saying "no". Only the People can choose his successor.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

They are really willing to trigger a constitutional crisis and burn the whole thing down instead of losing a cent of their slush fund. It really is astounding.

If all your power/political future hinged on it, you would to. Trump shuttering all these organizations/programs is tantamount to making someone blind, deaf, and mute. The beast always fights the fiercest when death is breathing down its neck.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

They are. Judicial obstruction was pretty effective last time so they are doubling down on it.

If I had to guess, Trump and his team are waiting to unload on all of them at once. I think so far things have been deliberate with the execution, going for the absolute worst of bureaucratic waste and fraud to force these people into an indefensible position with the American public.

 

[los pepes]

I think if all we get out of the Trump team is impotent whining about "corrupt judges" after 4 years of planning for these then unfortunately it will be a sign that they were never that serious. We all knew this was coming. If they had no plan in place except appeal to Roberts and hope he doesn't fuck him in the ass then what was the point of any of this? You can't feign total war and then back down like a bitch and grab ankle to the first two bit party boss DNC judge they scrape up. If you are not prepared to just ignore them and dare them to do something about it then, again, what was the point in any of this? These judges will happily order him around and dictate literally every aspect of his administration for the next 4 years unless he simply tells them no.

The only sympathy I'm holding onto is that he is playing along until RFK/Kash/Tulsi get confirmed to not create a "crisis" that gives weak kneed gopescum a reason to go squishy on them. We'll know in about a week. If they all get in and he is still complying with these turds and promising "appeals" (which still even as a concept recognizes the courts as the ultimate arbiter of constitutionally delegated executive powers) then sorry to say it really is over. These people will not even allow him to fire executive employees, let alone implement any changes in policy.

They tried to kill him. If he was not ready to go all in after that then he never will be, and this is all for show. Same deal with Jr and all of them. Vance is the only one that even hinted that any judicial review of these decisions was inherently anti-constitutional. And even he stopped well short of the obvious conclusion that they were as a result null and void.

I guess we'll see.

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

We need true American art, like in the past.
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Thomas Moran, an American painter.

Terese Neilson, Frank Frazetta, and Thomas Kinkade are American Artists who do things in a style most similar to this. Bringing back this style of art will not only make America beautiful but will drive out all money laundering schemes disguised as modern art.

 

[moocow]

If you are not prepared to just ignore them and dare them to do something about it then, again, what was the point in any of this? These judges will happily order him around and dictate literally every aspect of his administration for the next 4 years unless he simply tells them no.

You know this came up in various planning conversations and meetings as the administration was getting put together before Trump took office. They're not stampeding into this fray with no idea what to expect, and especially given the activist judges who shit all over Trump in his first term, there is zero chance they haven't planned contingencies as to how to deal with this.

I'm in agreement with the suggestion (earlier in the thread) that Trump machine-gunned all these executive orders and firings as fast as possible to drum up public support and provoke the traitors into extremist actions that justify a vicious response from the White House that the public will overwhelmingly support.

Trump's approval rating is, what, 70% right now? Dude's on a mandate and a bunch of whining federal judges aren't going to impress the American people when they're upset they can't stop Trump from executing his mandate.

 

[Not Really Here]

I think if all we get out of the Trump team is impotent whining about "corrupt judges" after 4 years of planning for these then unfortunately it will be a sign that they were never that serious. We all knew this was coming.

They're already tracing communication, social, and monetary, connections. I don't think you understand how much of a joke these rulings are, Trump has done everything according to law.

It's "How about we just fire the Federal bench" territory.

 

[Pelican Bones]

Trump's approval rating is, what, 70% right now?

No. His approval rating is around 55%. 70% of people think he's doing what he said he was going to do.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

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[MetokurGroomedMe]

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[mindlessobserver]

If I had to guess, Trump and his team are waiting to unload on all of them at once. I think so far things have been deliberate with the execution, going for the absolute worst of bureaucratic waste and fraud to force these people into an indefensible position with the American public.

I honestly think there is a deprivation of rights case being cooked up at the Justice Department. We may see federal judges in hand cuffs before this is all done. What was unthinkable 3 weeks ago is no longer the realm of fantasy.

 

[Not Really Here]

Who let the Asian woman drive the plane?

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

I think if all we get out of the Trump team is impotent whining about "corrupt judges" after 4 years of planning for these then unfortunately it will be a sign that they were never that serious. We all knew this was coming. If they had no plan in place except appeal to Roberts and hope he doesn't fuck him in the ass then what was the point of any of this? You can't feign total war and then back down like a bitch and grab ankle to the first two bit party boss DNC judge they scrape up. If you are not prepared to just ignore them and dare them to do something about it then, again, what was the point in any of this? These judges will happily order him around and dictate literally every aspect of his administration for the next 4 years unless he simply tells them no.

The only sympathy I'm holding onto is that he is playing along until RFK/Kash/Tulsi get confirmed to not create a "crisis" that gives weak kneed gopescum a reason to go squishy on them. We'll know in about a week. If they all get in and he is still complying with these turds and promising "appeals" (which still even as a concept recognizes the courts as the ultimate arbiter of constitutionally delegated executive powers) then sorry to say it really is over. These people will not even allow him to fire executive employees, let alone implement any changes in policy.

They tried to kill him. If he was not ready to go all in after that then he never will be, and this is all for show. Same deal with Jr and all of them. Vance is the only one that even hinted that any judicial review of these decisions was inherently anti-constitutional. And even he stopped well short of the obvious conclusion that they were as a result null and void.

I guess we'll see.

Relax, it's only been a few days since the first fag Judge intervened. We're not even a month into Trumps Presidency, I don't expect him to go full Emperor until they can at least challenge this shit in the Supreme Court. I do hope they're going to try and fast track these cases to the Supreme Court though.

 

[shekelshoah666]

I think if all we get out of the Trump team is impotent whining about "corrupt judges" after 4 years of planning for these then unfortunately it will be a sign that they were never that serious. We all knew this was coming. If they had no plan in place except appeal to Roberts and hope he doesn't fuck him in the ass then what was the point of any of this? You can't feign total war and then back down like a bitch and grab ankle to the first two bit party boss DNC judge they scrape up. If you are not prepared to just ignore them and dare them to do something about it then, again, what was the point in any of this? These judges will happily order him around and dictate literally every aspect of his administration for the next 4 years unless he simply tells them no.

The only sympathy I'm holding onto is that he is playing along until RFK/Kash/Tulsi get confirmed to not create a "crisis" that gives weak kneed gopescum a reason to go squishy on them. We'll know in about a week. If they all get in and he is still complying with these turds and promising "appeals" (which still even as a concept recognizes the courts as the ultimate arbiter of constitutionally delegated executive powers) then sorry to say it really is over. These people will not even allow him to fire executive employees, let alone implement any changes in policy.

They tried to kill him. If he was not ready to go all in after that then he never will be, and this is all for show. Same deal with Jr and all of them. Vance is the only one that even hinted that any judicial review of these decisions was inherently anti-constitutional. And even he stopped well short of the obvious conclusion that they were as a result null and void.

I guess we'll see.

They haven't followed anything from the judges and have flat out said that the rulings don't apply to what they are doing in most cases and have continued doing what they are doing.

If I had to guess Roberts is talking to these judges or others behind the scenes because he does not want to take these cases (I mean they don't have anything besides "because I said so" in most of rulings its laughable) because if he has to take them he knows Trump will just get free wins.

All of these are very far out of bounds for what the judicial branch can do power wise and no one besides TDS sufferers think they have power.

 

[los pepes]

You know this came up in various planning conversations and meetings as the administration was getting put together before Trump took office. They're not stampeding into this fray with no idea what to expect, and especially given the activist judges who shit all over Trump in his first term, there is zero chance they haven't planned contingencies as to how to deal with this.

I'm in agreement with the suggestion (earlier in the thread) that Trump machine-gunned all these executive orders and firings as fast as possible to drum up public support and provoke the traitors into extremist actions that justify a vicious response from the White House that the public will overwhelmingly support.

Trump's approval rating is, what, 70% right now? Dude's on a mandate and a bunch of whining federal judges aren't going to impress the American people when they're upset they can't stop Trump from executing his mandate.

His approval aggregate on RCP is ~53-55% which is great for him, but not overwhelming. As for the rest, it sounds like the same old "trust the plan" we heard after 2020. I'll trust the results at this point over promises for the future. As I said we'll find out shortly which direction it is going to take. Judges have now ordered him to stop any funding freezes, and to rehire functionaries that he has fired. Undoing everything he has done over the past 3 weeks. And they are growing bolder. For now they are ordering a few people back hired here and there, but if they get away with it these same DNC judges will issue a sweeping order restoring every fired employee and forbidding any future changes to their status. Do we still trust the plan then when Trump complies and appeals to SCOTUS and can wait around for 6 months or longer hoping Roberts/Barret are not activated by their handlers?

Like I said we'll know very shorty which way this is all going to head, as they have overplayed their hand so much that a handful of democrat judges have essentially seized complete control of the executive branch. They control all spending, and all personnel decisions. Unless Trump has SCOTUS in his back pocket and knows emergency reversals are coming down imminently, then his only options are to surrender or defy and ignore them. There is no other choice. SCOTUS will either accept or reject his emergency appeals in the coming days. If they reject him and he still complies, "trust the plan" is not going to cut it when he's been effectively removed from office 3 weeks into his term. Either he fight fight fights or it's over.

 

[mindlessobserver]

No. His approval rating is around 55%. 70% of people think he's doing what he said he was going to do.

And the other 30% have not been paying attention. Trumps greatest quality is he is not duplicitous. The man reflexively does not lie. The extent of his conniving is salesmanship where he tries to put a bow tie on a turd. If in doing that he gets ahead over his skis with his bluster (like the Gaza thing) he never takes it back. He just keeps on going and tries to make his bluster reality. The man is a literal force of nature, and its why he is literal kryptonite to the snakes in Washington DC.