Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Dr. Arinsu]

My prior comment was promptly misunderstood because at the time I was half asleep but what I was trying to say is. In the show if Viv were to add RL killers how would Elliot Rodger and by extension other killers react to the characters. Or even redemption.

I clarified this is because Rodger did have fascination with blondes (Charlie is one) and I was wondering a what if. But it turned into a misunderstanding. That goes for other spergs like Randy Stair and even Eric Harris. Would redemption work for Elliot or Eric? That's what I was asking.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Randy Stair

He'd be too busy trying to turn some female sinner or demon into his ghost waifu ember mclaine with hair dye and body paint while being salty there's no ghosts, only hell.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

He'd be too busy trying to turn some female sinner or demon into his ghost waifu ember mclaine with hair dye and body paint while being salty there's no ghosts, only hell.

Checks out. He'd be the first to go in the Exterminations.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Checks out. He'd be the first to go in the Exterminations.

If those exterminations were true to what seraph had in mind when she made them, randy wouldn't be worth the effort in exterminating. The exterminations were intended to purge hell of its worst of the worst from Atilla the hun to Mao. Not whinny little youtube spergs with a dozen recolored ocs for waifus.

 

[ssaneenah]

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>couldn't get a keychain made of the literal poster child of the show
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Dear God, Bluesky is such a hugbox of a social media, can I just read the posts of the other guy who Viv interacted with? Who was the blocked user anyway?

 

[The tired cat]

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I love that even in Bluesky she gets her ass chewed out by her fans.

 

[Saxxon]

I'm also 90% sure this is not-so-subtle RadioAple shipper fuel because every other hazbin keychain this year was a canon couple but not these two (why not Lucifer+Llilith?) and their poses intentionally match.

But remember Charlastor is wrong because.... BECAUSE VIVZIE SAYS SO.

But yeah, I agree that almost everyone acts like recently turned adults. The only one I'd argue that acts his age is Husk. I expect if Crymini (a character that is actually 1 ever ends up in the show, she'll act as immature as everyone else. But at least she'll make sense.

I don't know how you guys keep track of all these characters not even Legend of the Galactic Heroes was this hard to follow with the amount of characters relevant to the plot.

Her audition sheet said that she's in her early to mid 30s woman. Or at least that's why I figured that was her official age.
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So she's on her thirties, also
>youthful age
>early/mid 30s
It's not old old but not exactly what I would call being youthful, who wrote this? Viv? Isn't she also in her thirties? lmao.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

So she's on her thirties, also
>youthful age
>early/mid 30s
It's not old old but not exactly what I would call being youthful, who wrote this? Viv? Isn't she also in her thirties? lmao.

People have speculated Viv might be having a midlife crisis methinks she's a womanchikd. End of.

 

[Strawberry Kiwi Propel]

If those exterminations were true to what seraph had in mind when she made them, randy wouldn't be worth the effort in exterminating. The exterminations were intended to purge hell of its worst of the worst from Atilla the hun to Mao. Not whinny little youtube spergs with a dozen recolored ocs for waifus.

Remember, it's not about QUALITY, it's about QUANTITY. Heaven takes issue with Hell's overpopulation because all them demons, no matter their actions, could rise up and threaten the Silver Gates. I mean, there's 6 other rings filled with demons, with the Sinner Ring having an entire city named after Imps, with at least two Goetia palaces, but letting them Hellborns live is all worth... worth... I'm sorry, but what was Lucifer's end of the deal, again?

 

[Saxxon]

Remember, it's not about QUALITY, it's about QUANTITY. Heaven takes issue with Hell's overpopulation because all them demons, no matter their actions, could rise up and threaten the Silver Gates. I mean, there's 6 other rings filled with demons, with the Sinner Ring having an entire city named after Imps, with at least two Goetia palaces, but letting them Hellborns live is all worth... worth... I'm sorry, but what was Lucifer's end of the deal, again?

My best guess is that "you shall not kill hellborn" was just a way to make sure that Charlie would never get hurt as result of the exterminations but in his obvious pride he didn't want to admit so openly that he would summit to heaven's demands just to spare his daughter's life so he included all the other hellborn to safe face.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

My best guess is that "you shall not kill hellborn" was just a way to make sure that Charlie would never get hurt as result of the exterminations but in his obvious pride he didn't want to admit so openly that he would summit to heaven's demands just to spare his daughter's life so he included all the other hellborn to safe face.

Alot of the talks we discuss is all speculation. Viv never talks about them so anytime someone talks about stuff like this it should be taken as headcannon. And people doing more work than Viv by even making little speculations like these should be credited on writing this dogshit series, as she's most likely will steal your ideas as she's a lurker attention whore.

 

[Strawberry Kiwi Propel]

My best guess is that "you shall not kill hellborn" was just a way to make sure that Charlie would never get hurt as result of the exterminations but in his obvious pride he didn't want to admit so openly that he would summit to heaven's demands just to spare his daughter's life so he included all the other hellborn to safe face.

My question is... what were those demands?

Exorcists: *Don't Attack Charlie and Hellborns*
Lucifer:

I suppose not fighting the Exorcists is what his end of the deal was given people speculated that's the reason he didn't join the final battle in "The Show Must Go On" until after Adam attacked Charlie, as it violated their agreement. But why would Lucifer even want to or see the need to fight the Exorcists in the first place? He spends his days hiding in his room making his rubber duckies.

Guess I'd bring up his audition sheet into this, because the way I interpret it is that Lucifer rebelled after humanity's creation, as he got butthurt towards the humans who did horrible things that would send them to Hell, with Lucifer's punishment for his rebellion is to ironically rule the place with the people he loathes. It is commonly theorized that the opening narration in "Overture" is a case of Unreliable Narrator, and that Lucifer will be revealed to be a real piece of shit, but only time will tell ...

EDIT: Please disregard my interpretation of Lucifer based off his audition sheet. All this time I misread the "by" in the "by only seeing the bad humanity does with their lives" as "for". Everything else I said is valid though.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Alot of the talks we discuss is all speculation. Viv never talks about them so anytime someone talks about stuff like this it should be taken as headcannon. And people doing more work than Viv by even making little speculations like these should be credited on writing this dogshit series, as she's most likely will steal your ideas as she's a lurker attention whore.

Most of it is built on headcanons. The characters are more 2D then the protags of Harems. To the point the fans use headcanons as the main excuses for why X does Y, Viv has a history of this, most of the people believe that the LGBTQ+ Elements are the problem of the story, but without those the story still will suck, lack of creativity, lack of pacing and lack of character development makes it to where the story is just animated fanfiction among the lines of people like RegretfulReads would read. Viv should've stayed a visual novelist and not a show creator because atp around Hazbin Hotel seems more in line with a Movie (Put together all of Season One in a specific order and you'll get what I am saying.) then a show, and Helluva Boss seems better as a Visual Novel made in R'enpy then a "Black Comedy" it doesn't help that fans of this horrid train wreck seems confident to claim they like the show but back track when people criticize the very thing they make their personality.

TL'DR Hazbin was built on fans suggestions and fandom itself, Viv is a hack, yada yada yada.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

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I'm likely to believe that the higher-ups told Viv "Hey you got a certain amount of spots for this merch run. You choose who goes in there." And instead of using one of those slots for arguably probably one of the most popular characters in the show she instead decided on...the cannibal that has no interest in love whatsoever...the depressed short twink who's wife left him...and the rapist.

Edit: Or maybe the higher-ups knew better than, cause all three of those are sold out, while the lesbian ship and straight ship aren't. Who is buying this shit...

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Edit: Or maybe the higher-ups knew better than, cause all three of those are sold out, while the lesbian ship and straight ship aren't. Who is buying this shit...

From what I can see, most merch is either in a small location of Hot Topic or just untouched. Hazbin Merch is often cheap and made from Temu Like stores and I won't be surprised if some of that shit ends in a landfill so some Chinese Workers can recycle them. People are once again reporting they are falling apart.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Doubleposting but apparently Ashley and Michael have broken up.

https://www.tumblr.com/chaifootstep...edibly-sad-but-kudos-to-them-for?source=share

Spoiler: Images

I truly hope for the best for those two. Although I do have to say Open Relationships never end well. How much you're willing to bet Stans will go off on this?

 

[LucasSomething]

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1-If this was true why didnt vivzie bring it up earlier when people complained about Valentino merch?

2-If she really has no control and it's on Amazon then this is even harder to believe because companies are not retarded and know what consumers want better than creators. Amazon would not only sell angel but Husk keychain if not make it a combined one. They would still pick Alastor and Lucifer but no way they'd not pick Angel.

3-Valentino is not the most mainstream friendly guy and the company should know by this point that doing sexy merch of him would lead to outrage.

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Vivzie you lunatic, Vox and velvette are not canon rapists, this isn't rocket science lol.

 

[Dr. Butt]

But remember Charlastor is wrong because.... BECAUSE VIVZIE SAYS SO.

A boss/employee mentor/protege sexual relationship is WRONG because of POWAH DYNAMICC aka Viv's bosses never hit on her and she's still fat mad about it. She'd love it IRL since it's the closest a woman could get to a yaoi-style storyline or "cosplay" as an "uke", as the kids pathetic adult women say.
Also, Charlie's the Queen of Hell so what's wrong with her fucking her top investor? CEOs always take a little off the top for themselves.

 

[AnOminous]

But like you said, it just doesn’t work. And honestly, I can’t think of any time I’ve seen people lust over and sexuality an abusive pimp.

You are apparently not aware of fujos. They routinely fetishize abusive homosexual relationships between males. They even have names for it, the top (Valentino) is a seme and Angel would be a uke (bottom). And they're really into abuse.

They're pretty sick, they're as sick and disgusting as the way more well known male perverts with perversions so twisted they only have names in Japanese.

I clarified this is because Rodger did have fascination with blondes (Charlie is one) and I was wondering a what if.

Calm down verbalase.

And people doing more work than Viv by even making little speculations like these should be credited on writing this dogshit series, as she's most likely will steal your ideas as she's a lurker attention whore.

The show(s) would actually be better if she did.

That would be pay enough for most of them. Just getting to help her deliver what she advertised.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Guess this explains why she wanted Weird Al in her show, I guess it's good for her that he must've been a good sport despite not wanting to curse to let her animate a segment for his music video. But I can definitely see the Weird Al and Barnum resemblance in Lucifer

My prior comment was promptly misunderstood because at the time I was half asleep but what I was trying to say is. In the show if Viv were to add RL killers how would Elliot Rodger and by extension other killers react to the characters. Or even redemption.

I clarified this is because Rodger did have fascination with blondes (Charlie is one) and I was wondering a what if. But it turned into a misunderstanding. That goes for other spergs like Randy Stair and even Eric Harris. Would redemption work for Elliot or Eric? That's what I was asking.

It's still autistic to still think about, like only someone deranged would try to write a redemption story for someone like Elliot and Columbine types and expect to make it mainstream. Like its for the same reason Valentino is the most hated character among that fandom and the sensitive types, because they would hit too close to home compared to say some dictator or mad scientist.

1-If this was true why didnt vivzie bring it up earlier when people complained about Valentino merch?

2-If she really has no control and it's on Amazon then this is even harder to believe because companies are not retarded and know what consumers want better than creators. Amazon would not only sell angel but Husk keychain if not make it a combined one. They would still pick Alastor and Lucifer but no way they'd not pick Angel.

3-Valentino is not the most mainstream friendly guy and the company should know by this point that doing sexy merch of him would lead to outrage.

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Vivzie you lunatic, Vox and velvette are not canon rapists, this isn't rocket science lol.

It's clear it's weighing on her conscious that she didn't make merch of other characters and is desperate to blame anyone else. It's utterly childish when she could simply own up and say she'd release more merch of those lesser used characters. It's clear she still has the mentality of a teenage girl because she's obviously sheltered.

A boss/employee mentor/protege sexual relationship is WRONG because of POWAH DYNAMICC aka Viv's bosses never hit on her and she's still fat mad about it. She'd love it IRL since it's the closest a woman could get to a yaoi-style storyline or "cosplay" as an "uke", as the kids pathetic adult women say.
Also, Charlie's the Queen of Hell so what's wrong with her fucking her top investor? CEOs always take a little off the top for themselves.

It's funny how there's this whole thing about power dynamics yet Helluva Boss' main ship is a master/slave dynamic but twisted to be more blackmail related, but uh they're childhood friends see, the rich guys wife is really mean to him too, and uh he's such a silly billy whose just anti-social