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This is intended as a thread to post any reporting/news stories (original and cross-posted from other threads) to catalogue any changes over time as the establishment media comes to grips with the magnitude of their trans fuckery. The content of the story isn't the primary concern (though how reporting varies by content is interesting), but the reporting of it. I do not know of any mainstream media in the Anglosphere that reports honestly when dealing with trans issues.
If this belongs elsewhere, apologies.
Source: BBC (state-funded British media)
Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c704pngr33yo
Summary: Ludicrous puff piece where the main character is a woman who pretends to be a man and kvetches that she stayed in her room during her periods because there were no men's-style underwear that accommodated a menstrual pad.
Rating: 2/10. Male pronouns for women, female pronouns for men, non-binary pronouns for the genderspecials. However, does mention the danger of binding from the Cass review. Also the main character has a double-barrelled surname which isn't exactly her fault but I don't have to like it.
Source: BBC
Link:https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx07xdpw5o
Summary: Reporting on a nurse currently hauled before an employment tribunal and suspended from work because she complained about a male doctor using the female changing rooms at the hospital. The doctor claims he felt harassed and discriminated against.
Rating: 7/10. An astonishingly, nearly-honest piece of reporting from the Beeb. All pronouns are avoided for Dr Upton (except for one use of 'their') and 'she' is never used in reference to the male Dr Upton. His transgender status is also not hidden (though for obvious reasons it couldn't be, since the entire proceeding is about it). Also, read if you want to lose further faith in humanity. The doctor believes he is female (because he transitioned) and that sex was 'nebulous' (this is a medical doctor who practises medicine and graduated with a medical degree).
If this belongs elsewhere, apologies.
Source: BBC (state-funded British media)
Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c704pngr33yo
A trans man said he locked himself away every month when he menstruated because he could not access trans-friendly underwear.
Jay-Harley Rees, 28, from Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, said there were not enough spaces where trans and non-binary people felt safe in small towns and rural areas.
He said he had to put on a "fake deeper voice and pretend to be a lad just to go to the shop".
Rhi Kemp-Davies, a non-binary therapist, said changing your appearance as a trans person to "pass" was often done to avoid violence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62430647
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66984843
Jay-Harley said he "would cry" and "lock myself away" every month when he menstruated because he had to wear female underwear to use sanitary products.
"I couldn't look at myself in the mirror, even though I would be wearing my suits - I knew what I had on underneath," he said.
"Every day was a battle to carry on."
He said his mental health and confidence would have been "so much better" if he had had guidance, support and underwear made for trans men.
After taking testosterone, he said: "I'm very lucky my periods have stopped, but they could come back, I won't know or have any warnings."
Jay-Harley said being trans in a small town meant there were very few LGBTQ+ resources available locally.
"It's a love and hate war right now," he said. "There's not enough spaces out there where we can be ourselves, where we can feel safe and protected."
He said he has had to "put on a fake deeper voice and pretend to be a lad just to go to the shop, a restaurant, or pub".
"It's terrifying to go and use a public toilet, they're not safe. You don't know who you're with," he said.
"If they found out our true identity it's scary to think that they might not be accepting."
When Jay-Harley came out in 2019, he said "no-one got it" and he had to figure things out for himself.
He wanted to flatten his chest and discovered binders, but had to import one from the US because there were no UK companies at the time.
"If I didn't have my binder, I couldn't go out because it was a part of me. Without that I would be misgendered because people would look at my chest.
"Your body parts are all people see and that's what your gender is to them."
Jay-Harley said he wore his binder for up to 18 hours a day everyday because of his job as a barista, which lead to bumps developing on his ribs from the compression.
He said wearing them was not a choice for many trans men and non-binary people, as there was such a long wait for top surgery.
The Cass review, published on 10 April looked at gender identity services for under-18s in NHS England and described binding as "painful, and potentially harmful".
Rhi Kemp-Davies
Rhi Kemp-Davies say they really want people to read the report and "think about the everyday dysphoria that trans people face"
Rhi Kemp-Davies, 42, a non-binary person from Pontypridd, Rhondda Cynon Taf, works as a therapist for trans and non-binary people, as well as providing training for other therapists.
They said a lot of trans and non-binary people feel a constant "hypervigilance of 'am I safe here?'" whenever they "meet a new person, start a new job, degree course, or come out to family".
Rhi said creating a flat chest might help them "hide less" and improve confidence, but for others it may be so they were not "spotted" as trans.
Rhi said packing underwear had been inaccessible in the UK, with one Portuguese brand being the main one people they know buy.
Packing underwear are boxer shorts which allow a prosthetic or foam cup insert to create a "bulge" which can alleviate gender dysphoria and keep people safe, they said.
"It reduces risk of violence," they said. "But it's sad we even have to do that."
Rhi said: "I really want people to really think about the everyday dysphoria that trans people face and how just showing up every day can be a challenge for some."
It comes as a survey of 378 transgender men and non-binary people, conducted by underwear brand ZOAH, suggested 72% of respondents did not feel safe living in the UK.
Trans and non-binary students were also "less than half as likely" as the rest of the population in feeling "safe and confident going to school or college".
The report said: "Of those that have tried to secure a job, 49% believe that being trans or non-binary has negatively impacted their application."
He said being from "a tiny town" there was "nothing for the community" and so people had been "so grateful" to the couple.
Jay-Harley said he had enjoyed seeing customers "being more comfortable and getting more confident within themselves to start living their authentic lives".
"I feel like there needs to be a designated space in all towns where we can be free."
James Charles Abbott / CT9 Studios
Danielle St James says her story is a lesson to "queer and minority small businesses" to go for the grants even if they think it is a "boy's club"
A trans underwear brand created a range of binders and packing underwear to improve safety with a development grant from Innovate UK.
ZOAH founder Danielle St James, 32, who is also chief executive of trans charity Not A Phase, said she and the manufacturing development team used technology from sportswear to make their binders more breathable and cooling.
The underwear has a medium absorbent liner because when people take testosterone, monthly cycles are reduced but not entirely eliminated, she said.
"Things which are not made for you are a physical reminder that you are in a world that is not made for you," she said. "If I can make something comfy and you forget you're wearing them, then great."
She said it was important binders were used "in the safest way possible".
"As such, while compression is absolutely a vital component of our binders, our main focus when developing them was on comfort and safety.
"That being said, the standard advice on binding still applies, such as only binding for eight hours at a time and not wearing the binder to sleep."
The company said it was working on "a more in-depth safe binding guide with input from a medical professional" for the new year.
Jay-Harley Rees, 28, from Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, said there were not enough spaces where trans and non-binary people felt safe in small towns and rural areas.
He said he had to put on a "fake deeper voice and pretend to be a lad just to go to the shop".
Rhi Kemp-Davies, a non-binary therapist, said changing your appearance as a trans person to "pass" was often done to avoid violence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62430647
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66984843
Jay-Harley said he "would cry" and "lock myself away" every month when he menstruated because he had to wear female underwear to use sanitary products.
"I couldn't look at myself in the mirror, even though I would be wearing my suits - I knew what I had on underneath," he said.
"Every day was a battle to carry on."
He said his mental health and confidence would have been "so much better" if he had had guidance, support and underwear made for trans men.
After taking testosterone, he said: "I'm very lucky my periods have stopped, but they could come back, I won't know or have any warnings."
Jay-Harley said being trans in a small town meant there were very few LGBTQ+ resources available locally.
"It's a love and hate war right now," he said. "There's not enough spaces out there where we can be ourselves, where we can feel safe and protected."
He said he has had to "put on a fake deeper voice and pretend to be a lad just to go to the shop, a restaurant, or pub".
"It's terrifying to go and use a public toilet, they're not safe. You don't know who you're with," he said.
"If they found out our true identity it's scary to think that they might not be accepting."
When Jay-Harley came out in 2019, he said "no-one got it" and he had to figure things out for himself.
He wanted to flatten his chest and discovered binders, but had to import one from the US because there were no UK companies at the time.
"If I didn't have my binder, I couldn't go out because it was a part of me. Without that I would be misgendered because people would look at my chest.
"Your body parts are all people see and that's what your gender is to them."
Jay-Harley said he wore his binder for up to 18 hours a day everyday because of his job as a barista, which lead to bumps developing on his ribs from the compression.
He said wearing them was not a choice for many trans men and non-binary people, as there was such a long wait for top surgery.
The Cass review, published on 10 April looked at gender identity services for under-18s in NHS England and described binding as "painful, and potentially harmful".
Rhi Kemp-Davies say they really want people to read the report and "think about the everyday dysphoria that trans people face"
Rhi Kemp-Davies, 42, a non-binary person from Pontypridd, Rhondda Cynon Taf, works as a therapist for trans and non-binary people, as well as providing training for other therapists.
They said a lot of trans and non-binary people feel a constant "hypervigilance of 'am I safe here?'" whenever they "meet a new person, start a new job, degree course, or come out to family".
Rhi said creating a flat chest might help them "hide less" and improve confidence, but for others it may be so they were not "spotted" as trans.
Rhi said packing underwear had been inaccessible in the UK, with one Portuguese brand being the main one people they know buy.
Packing underwear are boxer shorts which allow a prosthetic or foam cup insert to create a "bulge" which can alleviate gender dysphoria and keep people safe, they said.
"It reduces risk of violence," they said. "But it's sad we even have to do that."
Rhi said: "I really want people to really think about the everyday dysphoria that trans people face and how just showing up every day can be a challenge for some."
It comes as a survey of 378 transgender men and non-binary people, conducted by underwear brand ZOAH, suggested 72% of respondents did not feel safe living in the UK.
Trans and non-binary students were also "less than half as likely" as the rest of the population in feeling "safe and confident going to school or college".
The report said: "Of those that have tried to secure a job, 49% believe that being trans or non-binary has negatively impacted their application."
What is being done?
To make the LGBTQ+ community in Llanelli feel connected, safe and give them the resources to look after themselves, Jay-Harley and his partner have paired with trans charity Not A Phase to do free coffee mornings at their cafe.He said being from "a tiny town" there was "nothing for the community" and so people had been "so grateful" to the couple.
Jay-Harley said he had enjoyed seeing customers "being more comfortable and getting more confident within themselves to start living their authentic lives".
"I feel like there needs to be a designated space in all towns where we can be free."
Danielle St James says her story is a lesson to "queer and minority small businesses" to go for the grants even if they think it is a "boy's club"
A trans underwear brand created a range of binders and packing underwear to improve safety with a development grant from Innovate UK.
ZOAH founder Danielle St James, 32, who is also chief executive of trans charity Not A Phase, said she and the manufacturing development team used technology from sportswear to make their binders more breathable and cooling.
The underwear has a medium absorbent liner because when people take testosterone, monthly cycles are reduced but not entirely eliminated, she said.
"Things which are not made for you are a physical reminder that you are in a world that is not made for you," she said. "If I can make something comfy and you forget you're wearing them, then great."
She said it was important binders were used "in the safest way possible".
"As such, while compression is absolutely a vital component of our binders, our main focus when developing them was on comfort and safety.
"That being said, the standard advice on binding still applies, such as only binding for eight hours at a time and not wearing the binder to sleep."
The company said it was working on "a more in-depth safe binding guide with input from a medical professional" for the new year.
Rating: 2/10. Male pronouns for women, female pronouns for men, non-binary pronouns for the genderspecials. However, does mention the danger of binding from the Cass review. Also the main character has a double-barrelled surname which isn't exactly her fault but I don't have to like it.
Source: BBC
Link:https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx07xdpw5o
A transgender doctor is "only asking for basic respect" when it comes to having their gender identity accepted, an NHS employment tribunal has heard.
Dr Beth Upton also repeatedly insisted on being a woman after being called a man by lawyers during cross-examination.
The medic complained to NHS Fife after nurse Sandie Peggie said Dr Upton should not be allowed to use the women's changing room at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy.
The nurse had left the room on two occasions where she encountered Dr Upton, before the pair exchanged words during a third encounter in December 2023.
Ms Peggie argued that sharing the room with Dr Upton amounted to unlawful harassment under the Equality Act. The health board suspended the nurse for alleged bullying and harassment in January 2024.
Dr Upton told the tribunal: "I am aware that some people are uncomfortable with trans people.
"But I don't think that automatically overrides a trans person's right to access a changing room which aligns with their gender identity."
The tribunal had previously heard that Dr Upton began transitioning in 2022.
Dr Upton said it was agreed with a supervisor that the medic would use the female changing room after starting work at the hospital in August 2023.
The doctor also said that a Gender Recognition Certificate should not be "required for a trans person's gender identity to be validated or respected" .
PA Media
Sandie Peggie said she felt "intimidated" when she encountered Dr Upton in the women's changing room
Naomi Cunningham, representing Ms Peggie, told the medic: "It's obvious why someone would be unhappy to see you in the changing room.
"You're male and women would feel uncomfortable with you in the changing room."
Dr Upton responded: "I am not male. My presence is not an invasion of the privacy of their space, but I can't speak for how they feel."
The doctor told the court that biological sex was a "nebulous term which doesn't really mean anything".
Dr Upton defined gender as "someone's sincerely expressed identity and way of understanding themselves" which was "deeply personal and varies person to person".
The medic added: "Biology is significantly more complicated than a stick figure with trousers and a stick figure with a skirt."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland
The doctor said that the changing room would ideally have individual, lockable changing cubicles to give people more privacy.
The lawyer then suggested that Dr Upton could have requested an private changing space in the hospital.
However the doctor disagreed and said this could have potentially been "othering" for a trans woman and would have required a discussion, adding: "It's not a decision I get to make."
Ms Cunningham suggested the medic was asking Ms Peggie to "submit" and say she believed that Dr Upton was a woman which they "both know to be false".
"We don't both know that to be false," said Dr Upton. "I know it to be true.
"I am only asking for basic respect, I am not asking anyone at work to submit to me."
When asked why Ms Peggie did not want to be in the changing room with the medic, Dr Upton said: "I presume it was because of my trans status."
[IMG alt="PA Media The entrance to the accident and emergency department at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy. Various ambulances and a police van are parked outside.
"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/c...-e537-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp[/IMG]PA Media
Dr Beth Upton described being confronted by nurse Sandie Peggie at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy
Dr Upton told the tribunal Ms Peggie had avoided being in the changing room when the medic was there on two occasions in August and late October or early November 2023.
"There was some kind of issue here," the doctor told the tribunal. "It could be based on anything and deeply felt.
"It's not up to me to pry and it's up to them if they want to express it through a professional or formal channel.
"Whether it makes me upset is a bit irrelevant in this instance."
The pair exchanged words in the women's changing room late on Christmas Eve 2023, however the two disagree on what was said.
Ms Peggie previously told the tribunal that the doctor was getting undressed during the conversation, but Dr Upton has denied this.
Dr Upton claimed Ms Peggie initiated the conversation and said the doctor should not be using the women's changing room and that she was intimidated.
"I was trying my best to explain, de-escalate and understand," said Dr Upton.
The medic urged the nurse to report her issue formally.
Dr Upton claimed Ms Peggie was aggressive during the exchange, adding: "I consider the act of waiting for a colleague to leave, confronting her, asking personal questions, and using pejorative language inappropriate."
The tribunal continues.
Dr Beth Upton also repeatedly insisted on being a woman after being called a man by lawyers during cross-examination.
The medic complained to NHS Fife after nurse Sandie Peggie said Dr Upton should not be allowed to use the women's changing room at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy.
The nurse had left the room on two occasions where she encountered Dr Upton, before the pair exchanged words during a third encounter in December 2023.
Ms Peggie argued that sharing the room with Dr Upton amounted to unlawful harassment under the Equality Act. The health board suspended the nurse for alleged bullying and harassment in January 2024.
Dr Upton told the tribunal: "I am aware that some people are uncomfortable with trans people.
"But I don't think that automatically overrides a trans person's right to access a changing room which aligns with their gender identity."
The tribunal had previously heard that Dr Upton began transitioning in 2022.
Dr Upton said it was agreed with a supervisor that the medic would use the female changing room after starting work at the hospital in August 2023.
The doctor also said that a Gender Recognition Certificate should not be "required for a trans person's gender identity to be validated or respected" .
Sandie Peggie said she felt "intimidated" when she encountered Dr Upton in the women's changing room
Naomi Cunningham, representing Ms Peggie, told the medic: "It's obvious why someone would be unhappy to see you in the changing room.
"You're male and women would feel uncomfortable with you in the changing room."
Dr Upton responded: "I am not male. My presence is not an invasion of the privacy of their space, but I can't speak for how they feel."
The doctor told the court that biological sex was a "nebulous term which doesn't really mean anything".
Dr Upton defined gender as "someone's sincerely expressed identity and way of understanding themselves" which was "deeply personal and varies person to person".
The medic added: "Biology is significantly more complicated than a stick figure with trousers and a stick figure with a skirt."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland
The doctor said that the changing room would ideally have individual, lockable changing cubicles to give people more privacy.
The lawyer then suggested that Dr Upton could have requested an private changing space in the hospital.
However the doctor disagreed and said this could have potentially been "othering" for a trans woman and would have required a discussion, adding: "It's not a decision I get to make."
Ms Cunningham suggested the medic was asking Ms Peggie to "submit" and say she believed that Dr Upton was a woman which they "both know to be false".
"We don't both know that to be false," said Dr Upton. "I know it to be true.
"I am only asking for basic respect, I am not asking anyone at work to submit to me."
When asked why Ms Peggie did not want to be in the changing room with the medic, Dr Upton said: "I presume it was because of my trans status."
[IMG alt="PA Media The entrance to the accident and emergency department at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy. Various ambulances and a police van are parked outside.
"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/c...-e537-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp[/IMG]PA Media
Dr Beth Upton described being confronted by nurse Sandie Peggie at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy
Dr Upton told the tribunal Ms Peggie had avoided being in the changing room when the medic was there on two occasions in August and late October or early November 2023.
"There was some kind of issue here," the doctor told the tribunal. "It could be based on anything and deeply felt.
"It's not up to me to pry and it's up to them if they want to express it through a professional or formal channel.
"Whether it makes me upset is a bit irrelevant in this instance."
The pair exchanged words in the women's changing room late on Christmas Eve 2023, however the two disagree on what was said.
Ms Peggie previously told the tribunal that the doctor was getting undressed during the conversation, but Dr Upton has denied this.
Dr Upton claimed Ms Peggie initiated the conversation and said the doctor should not be using the women's changing room and that she was intimidated.
"I was trying my best to explain, de-escalate and understand," said Dr Upton.
The medic urged the nurse to report her issue formally.
Dr Upton claimed Ms Peggie was aggressive during the exchange, adding: "I consider the act of waiting for a colleague to leave, confronting her, asking personal questions, and using pejorative language inappropriate."
The tribunal continues.
Rating: 7/10. An astonishingly, nearly-honest piece of reporting from the Beeb. All pronouns are avoided for Dr Upton (except for one use of 'their') and 'she' is never used in reference to the male Dr Upton. His transgender status is also not hidden (though for obvious reasons it couldn't be, since the entire proceeding is about it). Also, read if you want to lose further faith in humanity. The doctor believes he is female (because he transitioned) and that sex was 'nebulous' (this is a medical doctor who practises medicine and graduated with a medical degree).
