brownsuagrbubbletea
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lowkey reminds me of those computer buddy things
Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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I dunno, so far we had 4 eps and that shit wasnt brought up once. Frankly, Goose gives impression they dont really care for this stuff, heck their recent tweet was lambasting cartoon reviewers who use "Dis show is fer kids?!" shit.
The_Gam3
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Yeah but cartoon reviewers are retarded. It's a low blow nobody takes em seriously.
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Which one of the jannies changed the title of the thread so I can thank you.
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Fair enough, but I do imagine some would get tilted (specially that whitebread twat Saberspark, I mean with what lil credibility he has left)
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Anyone watching TADC knows Zooble is the trans stand-in. They're (sorry, yeah, I use "they," it's a fucking cartoon character) so ambiguously "neutral good" and "vaguely nice" it's kind of annoying. Though, I guess if the implication that all of the characters are in some way unhinged and mentally unwell, Zooble's catch being that they hate their body is really funny. Caine already tried his best to offer a resolution and even though Zooble can change whatever body part, they're still unhappy. Zooble is a fucking toy (rigged 3D model, w/e) in a fantasy world with no human biology and still experiences body dysphoria without having a body. It's almost profound. I wonder what the payoff is gonna be with the entire story, so I'm still cautiously optimistic.
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Celebrate Valentine's Day with the only pair in the Hellaverse that matters.
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Drunk post:
Take every mention of the word Honestly in this thread and replace it with Fuck. Make an episode out of it, perhaps it'll reduce the stress moon-face Viv is allegedly putting up with?
Take every mention of the word Honestly in this thread and replace it with Fuck. Make an episode out of it, perhaps it'll reduce the stress moon-face Viv is allegedly putting up with?
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Frankly I find that a funny idea.
Two facts Viv keeps stumbling over when talking about the Vees in general and Valentino specifically:
1) Sexual violence is perceived differently than "regukar" violence.
2) We never SEE Vox and Velvette being as horrible as Valentino, especially in relation to his treatment of Angel. (Even Valentino's VA said he was shocked to get the script for Masquerade and what the character was doing.) Hopefully we see Vox and Velvette being the villains they're supposed to be.
I'd like to see the story of how and why Angel wound up contracted to Valentino. If done right, viewers/readers would be going at points "NO, ANGEL, DON'T DO THAT!"
1) Sexual violence is perceived differently than "regukar" violence.
2) We never SEE Vox and Velvette being as horrible as Valentino, especially in relation to his treatment of Angel. (Even Valentino's VA said he was shocked to get the script for Masquerade and what the character was doing.) Hopefully we see Vox and Velvette being the villains they're supposed to be.
I'd like to see the story of how and why Angel wound up contracted to Valentino. If done right, viewers/readers would be going at points "NO, ANGEL, DON'T DO THAT!"
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I bet it was a pathetic thing, where Angel longed for fame while being a hooker after he either rejected his crime family or got kicked out after he fagged out too much. One day, Val was looking for a new piece of meat to put on display and Angel happened to catch his eye. Angel turned out to have some semblance of acting talent which was followed by demands for more from the customers, and that's when Valentino decided to keep him under lock and key with a more strigent contract than what he had now.
Some love-bombing combined with his roofie gas and some bedazzling with fame and money later, and Angel Dust was now firmly under the Vee's thumb.
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Part of the confusion for me is that Angel was in hell for DECADES before Valentino died, you're telling me that in all that time no one else got a hold on Angel or his family tolerated his behaviour justtt up until the point Valentino showed up AND had enough time to establish himself?
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Reminder, Angel died in the 40s. Val died in the 70s. Angel Dust was in Hell for three decades prior to Val. You'd think he'd learn some lessons throughout those three decades. You'd think that Angel would've been something else. You'd think Angel was already an established pornstar and Valentino just so happened to be his next manager.
But this is all speculation because we have yet to know anything about Angel Dust's experience in Hell—darn it, this goes for all the sinners. What were there personal experiences with Hell? Why did we get no dialogue or backstory on the things they've been through? That would've allowed us to sympathize with Angel Dust further. We would've seen what led to him being under Val's lock and key. But no, everything'll be up to interpretation because we all know Vivziepop will only yammer such information in her lousy tweets or in an interview/livestream. If we do get such answers, better wait until 2027 when season three comes out.
Once again, the more pieces you pick and hold on how buck broken this worldbuilding/character building is, the bigger you realize the puzzle is to where it'll only leave you more frustrated than ever.
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If anything it would make more sense for Angel to be the big bad pimp considering he was from a mafia and even in hell continues to kill people. He has decades on Val in hell as someone with connections, experience, and motive.
Val is still a huge slut and porn star so that doesn't need to be taken away from Angels character either.
Butttt we all know he's only a fetish character at this point. After all Valentino is a late addition to his lore.
(I've seen a few artists play around with the idea of Valentino genuinely seeking redemption using what we know, on top of speculating on how he would have fared in hell his first years based on his pheromone abilities and inability to control his emotioms, but those people are endlessly harrassed and insulted because how DARE you not have Angel Dust as the permanent only victim in everything and think that these characters can have layers)
Gondolindrim
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Jeez and you guys were complaining about the sexy stuff. These are just weird and poorly made.
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Vox and Velvette are very much still in the lines of "cartoony" villains. Vox has powers that can hypnotize people (which is something that is far removed from reality even if it is supposed to be a metaphor), his beef is mainly with Alastor which he loses anyway, and even when he tells Sir Pentious to kill himself it comes off in a more comedic way that doesn't have any negative long lasting effects on Pentious anyway. Even when he suggests to Valentino that he can calm himself down by shooting a couple of his low-paid employees, it's more of a throw away line. We don't have any personal connections to these employees and it's again far removed from reality because we know these people will just come back to life anyway.
Velvette, while less cartoonish than the male Vees, is still very much like high-school bully from a teen movie. She sings a song with another powerful overlord that mostly boils down to "okay boomer lol". She's rude to her employees and doesn't seem to care much about their well-being, which again falls into the same trap with Vox as we have no personal connection with these background characters and we know that they're most likely going to be fine when they come back to life. She's the creator of the love potion, but we don't see her using it herself. If we were going to blame her for how other people used her creation, well then we would have to also put blame on how Beelzebub let's her hellhound orphanages be ran or how Asmodeus let's his succubi/incubi use less then moral standards to get people to fuck them.
But we the audience know the full extent of what Valentino is like. The industry that he runs is very comparable to reality. The way he treats Angel Dust is played seriously and never for laughs. He's the one that rips one of Velvette's models apart during one of his tantrums. He's the one that is going to shoot some of Vox's employees to "calm down". We even see him be physically abusive to his robot servant that was made to specifically be in servitude for him. Until we see Vox or Vel do anything remotely in comparison to what Val does, Val will always be considered the worst Vee.
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Most of flatzgitz sketches are stuck in 2012, but Space King is actually really good, you can barely tell its made by the FG guys. I guess because its a passion project instead of a paycheck to them, it stands out in both writing quality and animation.
Strawberry Kiwi Propel
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With Angel, you could theorized that because of his lack of opportunities of being sexual while alive, his attempts to do make it out in the industry in Hell were futile, until Valentino came along, and made him the star he is today. Perhaps Val was someone Angel genuinely loved only to be heartbroken by his eventual abuse, which he is now trapped in via the contract.
Makes more sense than Series Pentious wanted to be accepted by a group, whose oldest member didn't arrive until 60+ years later than he did, with the youngest didn't arrive until over a CENTURY later.
This is why I'm hoping there's more to Pentious' backstory than what we got from the leaks. Mind you, he's been in Hell the longest out of the major characters, and the show kinda treats that as trivial info. If anyone should be familiar with Alastor, who the show wants to make a big deal on how dangerous he is, it should be him. He specifically states that in Episode 2 that defeating Alastor would get the Vee's approval, but given Alastor's been there longer than Vox, did he have a different motive for battling Alastor, or did he never bother with getting Overlord validation until years later, cause' one would question why he didn't seek out Zestial since he's the oldest Overlord. His "sin" is basically being an antisocial hermit which is why he didn't tell anyone about Jack The Ripper's identity, but his whole schtick is seeking out and trying to engage with Hell's finest, so what gave him that incentive? They say his "redemption" was him "sacrificing" himself to protect his friends, but he sorta redeemed himself from his apparent flaws once he joined the Hotel for reals, since he's socializing with people non maliciously. :/
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Anyway, one point that was brought up that I wanted to expand on was the fact that the characters of this show are just stereotypes (which is funny because I know Viv had no intention of that being the case). Which, when you peel away the premise of this show, it is very much the case as the story follows a very "paint-by-number" sort of way. Like we know exactly what point B we'll get to from point A. And that wouldn't be so bad persay, if the journey from point A to be point B was engaging. But, it's really not.
One good example of this is the Vaggie being an exorcist reveal. Once Adam reveals to us the audience that Vaggie was at one point an exorcist angel, it's only a matter of time until that information is revealed to Charlie. So instead of our attention being focused on whether Charlie is going to find out Vaggie's secret, it's more on how that secret will be revealed. But besides one questioning on Adam's end during the trial, which Vaggie makes a half-baked excuse to go to the bathroom so she doesn't have to make the decision of if Charlie's dream is worth the sacrifice of her dark past being exposed, it's never brought up again until close to the end of the episode where Adam reveals it to Charlie. Which, again, the audience knew was going to happen; we just wanted to know if it was going to happen because Vaggie stayed by her girlfriend's side in the thick of it or the fact that Adam still spills the beans even when Vaggie followed what he told her to do. Instead of this plot point being an insight on Vaggie and how she will grow from this as a character, it instead becomes the typical third-act breakup because...well, that's what is supposed to happen at this time in the story.
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To be fair I only know Limus for his shit video on autistic characters
The hole video is legit how he experienced with autism, and how he thinks all the characters he picked are autism coded.
I tried watching he's "Victim ABUSS" video, instantly quits the moment he mentions how "Jewtubers needs to take responsibility because think of the children" minus the fact that it's inevitable.
Also his argument that show isn't bad because of swearing is a weak argument, how am I supposed to take characters seriously if all I hear is FUCK FUCK SHIT every sentence.
I tried watching he's "Victim ABUSS" video, instantly quits the moment he mentions how "Jewtubers needs to take responsibility because think of the children" minus the fact that it's inevitable.
Also his argument that show isn't bad because of swearing is a weak argument, how am I supposed to take characters seriously if all I hear is FUCK FUCK SHIT every sentence.