UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

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heck he could have probably used modern nepotism to join the company and actually change their systems

You're fucking retarded. You think an AMERICAN HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY would under any circumstances change to not ruthlessly violate their customers?

 

[neger psykolog]

Ironically it's the education system and culture that birthed him. A person that was born with everything he needed, heck he could have probably used modern nepotism to join the company and actually change their systems. Instead he wasted his fortune for Logan Paul esque "do retarded things for likes".

Part of this is wrong. I'm not a burger so don't know their education system but his ideology seems to have been borne from the type of material he was reading and following online (very early in the thread I found and screencapped all the twitter accounts he was following and people also found his goodreads account). It could be argued that his idealism came from culture but the kind of stuff he was reading was fairly esoteric and can best be described as "TPOT" (that part of twitter - where intellectual stuff is spoken about).

So it's certainly a part of culture but not mass consumer culture like CNN or MTV. He's basically a book nerd who read interesting stuff and followed his passion and found stuff that he thought was really interesting to read. He apparently also traveled a fair bit and his trip to Japan was particularly enlightening to him about society/happiness/the role of "men" (the gurwinder guy who was the last person to speak to him before he disappeared wrote an article about his thoughts on Luigi: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/united...-in-targeted-attack-cops.206228/post-20147661 / https://www.gurwinder.blog/p/the-riddle-of-luigi-mangione).

I guess in a certain sense if society is failing then that is also culture (arguably) so maybe you are correct in saying "culture birthed him".

Instead he wasted his fortune for Logan Paul esque "do retarded things for likes".

This couldn't be more off the mark if you tried. He had no active social media when he did the killing or afterwards, had disappeared from friends/family. Didn't cloutpost. Used a burner phone. Wore the most incognito/generic getup possible along with a burner gun. Wrote his entire "manifesto" as 3 words written on bullet shells. And wrote a haphazard "manifesto" (more like an explanation than a manifesto) on a piece of normal paper using a pencil.

He couldn't have possibly been any further from the mentality of "do retarded things for likes" if he tried (the only way he could've is if he never got caught or he ended his life or whatever).

A person that was born with everything he needed, heck he could have probably used modern nepotism to join the company and actually change their systems

I think you greatly overestimate how possible it is for someone to join a giant corporate conglomerate like UnitedHealth and make meaningful change. Even the CEO would be unable to push through dramatic changes in a timely fashion due to the size and scale and nature of the company. This is totally ridiculous thinking.

edit: in general the exact type of person to apply for and be accepted at jobs at a company like UnitedHealth is someone devoid of any creativity and who can do things strictly by the book. If some young little faggot shows up and clearly has a point to prove and thinks they're going to change the world they will either get their resume used as lining for the office bird cage or will be sent on tedious journeys to the HR office every 3 days until they're summarily shitcanned.

 

[The Crescent King]

Guys, you need to understand that WTFSignUp is an Israeli - his country is a glorified American colony and his people benefit from excellent social services thanks to the tax dollars of the working American. If you think he gives a shit or has any interest in remotely understanding how the US healthcare system screws over the poor or why the Adjuster did what he did you are being naive. He is not a serious person.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Ironically it's the education system and culture that birthed him. A person that was born with everything he needed,

He overcame the education system and culture that's formulated to make compliant cogs.

heck he could have probably used modern nepotism to join the company and actually change their systems.

The shareholders wanted Thompson there. Mangione would have been stymied at every turn and ultimately could not overcome a system which actively resists moral reform and only welcomes changes which further avarice.

Instead he wasted his fortune for Logan Paul esque "do retarded things for likes".

An odd comparison. Likes don't resurrect the dead. He wanted to make a lasting impact, which his bullets did.

 

[AnOminous]

An odd comparison.

Also a complete lie. Luigi had barely any social media presence.

 

[neger psykolog]

He overcame the education system and culture that's formulated to make compliant cogs.

Eh I don't know about that, particularly in burgerland where apparently school children can wear whatever they want as a school uniform because of "freedom of speech". I only say that because the "education system" has never struck me as something that particularly "overcome", it is more like their either outgrow it or are smart enough to not need it in the first place and can just go and read/learn stuff that interests them on their own accord.

Depending on what level of the education system we're talking about it, it has always seemed to provide the most rudimentary education/system framework for young people of all backgrounds - including those who are going to be much smarter and much stupider than you are.

It isn't really the education system itself that creates compliant cogs but rather companies that reward people being compliant cogs handsomely in the first place. If you can play office politics and all that bullshit you can make a lot of money (though there are many roles that pay far less for compliant cogs).

Also a complete lie. Luigi had barely any social media presence.

I don't want to nitpick too much and come across as a faget but I think it is incorrect to say he had barely any social media presence. He did have a social media presence but it wasn't typical and didn't have a wide appeal, but that doesn't mean it wasn't successful for him. So for most of the people that learned about him there wasn't much of interest - but for people who read similar stuff and want to learn about similar areas of human interest, society and all of that shit, it is a very, very interesting social media presence and reveals a lot more about his mindset than a normal Instagram account would.

But in that world not that many people have 100k followers and millions of views/likes per post so I don't think most people would call him "successful" or having a "significant social media presence" on account of that. But if you are interested in writing and very specific topics and ideas and 3-4 people that you very much respect read and reply to things you say occasionally then its likely a bigger personal barometer of success than having some flamboyant social media account with millions of morons following it.

 

[#FreeRoss]

You’re retarded and your shit is all fucked up you dumbass nigger

I love how the only counterarguments I get are just insults, curse words, and slurs. Way to prove your low IQ. I know my opinion will keep getting bad ratings, and that's a sin on the Reddit farms, so it will never convince you people, as Mark Twain once said.

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

I am done posting in the Luigi fan club threads for now. I will come back once he's sentenced to life imprisonment so I can see your sweet tears.

 

[The Crescent King]

I love how the only counterarguments I get are just insults, curse words, and slurs. Way to prove your low IQ. I know my opinion will keep getting bad ratings, and that's a sin on the Reddit farms, so it will never convince you people, as Mark Twain once said.

I am done posting in the Luigi fan club threads for now. I will come back once he's sentenced to life imprisonment so I can see your sweet tears.

My nigga, the guy in your profile pic is a lolbertarian who founded a drug market and facilitated addictions that destroy people's lives. Have whatever opinion on Luigi that you want, but if you want to troll at least don't be so obviously silly about it.

 

[#FreeRoss]

My nigga, the guy in your profile pic is a lolbertarian who founded a drug market and facilitated addictions that destroy people's lives. Have whatever opinion on Luigi that you want, but if you want to troll at least don't be so obviously silly about it.

I think the difference, though, is consent. The drug addicts that used the Silk Road consented to it, while Brian Thompson didn't consent to being murdered. Before you say murder for hire, even if Ross Ulbricht did hire a hitman, he didn't kill anybody, while Luigi Mangione murdered a man in cold blood, so it's easy to see why one deserved to be free while the other didn't.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Before you say murder for hire, even if Ross Ulbricht did hire a hitman, he didn't kill anybody, while Luigi Mangione murdered a man in cold blood, so it's easy to see why one deserved to be free while the other didn't.

It's not a matter of moral standing, it's a matter of having balls to do the deed. One had the balls and succeeded, the other had no balls, hired a hitman and failed.

 

[#FreeRoss]

It's not a matter of moral standing, it's a matter of having balls to do the deed. One had the balls and succeeded, the other had no balls, hired a hitman and failed.

If your idea of morality is "having balls" and killing somebody, you are sick in the head. Would you support somebody with the balls to bomb an abortion clinic? Or the balls to kill Luigi Mangione, assuming he goes free? The whole reason we have a criminal justice system is so we don't go back to this Wild West way of thinking that if you don't like somebody, just kill them, but I know I'm not going to get a reasonable response. All I will get is "I'm a retarded nigger, herrr, derrrrr, murder good." I can't wait until he goes to prison.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

If your idea of morality is "having balls" and killing somebody, you are sick in the head.

Are you intellectually deficient? I said that it's not a matter of moral standing - murder is morally wrong. I said that your husbando Ross shouldn't go free just because he failed at murdering someone while Mangione succeeded.
And while both are morally wrong, I'm happy that the piece of shit CEO is dead.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

If your idea of morality is "having balls" and killing somebody, you are sick in the head. Would you support somebody with the balls to bomb an abortion clinic? Or the balls to kill Luigi Mangione, assuming he goes free? The whole reason we have a criminal justice system is so we don't go back to this Wild West way of thinking that if you don't like somebody, just kill them, but I know I'm not going to get a reasonable response. All I will get is "I'm a retarded nigger, herrr, derrrrr, murder good." I can't wait until he goes to prison.

I bet you're real fun to watch Westerns with. "That's wrong. He killed that man. It doesn't matter that he killed his pa. He should've written a pigeon to the sheriff and waited patiently for the law."

 

[#FreeRoss]

Are you intellectually deficient? I said that it's not a matter of moral standing - murder is morally wrong. I said that your husbando Ross shouldn't go free just because he failed at murdering someone while Mangione succeeded.
And while both are morally wrong, I'm happy that the piece of shit CEO is dead.

My bad; I thought you were a Luigi Mangione supporter. Do you think Luigi Mangione should go free, or are you just saying Ross shouldn't have been freed? I'm happy to argue that point, as I think Ross Ulbricht served his time, but I just assumed you were another murder fanboy.

I bet you're real fun to watch Westerns with. "That's wrong. He killed that man. It doesn't matter that he killed his pa. He should've written a pigeon to the sheriff and waited patiently for the law."

Life is not a western movie. You dumbass, that's like saying, OMG, he must hate Marvel movies. CAUSE SUPERHEROES KILL PEOPLE. The whole reason we have a justice system is to avoid the Wild West-style violence. Do you think we should kill people we don't like?

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Life is not a western movie. You dumbass, that's like saying, OMG, he must hate Marvel movies. CAUSE SUPERHEROES KILL PEOPLE. The whole reason we have a justice system is to avoid the Wild West-style violence. Do you think we should kill people we don't like?

Before cops were a phone call away how do you think things were handled? You're awfully naive if you think justice never comes by vengeance.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Do you think Luigi Mangione should go free, or are you just saying Ross shouldn't have been freed?

Law is objective, you kill someone - even if that person is one of the biggest pieces of shit on the planet like in this case - you serve time for murder.
Mangione unfortunately should serve his time for murder.
Ulbricht should still be serving time for attempted murder.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I think you greatly overestimate how possible it is for someone to join a giant corporate conglomerate like UnitedHealth and make meaningful change. Even the CEO would be unable to push through dramatic changes in a timely fashion due to the size and scale and nature of the company. This is totally ridiculous thinking.

This really sums up the ridiculousness of this whole charade. The system is shit because every member of it buries his head in the sand and yells how the system is intrinsically evil and so he has no responsibility. People would literally execute a person than even consider changing the system from within. The only conclusion is that a group of such people deserves the systems they enable.

If even the CEO couldn't change shit so why murder him?

Guys, you need to understand that WTFSignUp is an Israeli - his country is a glorified American colony and his people benefit from excellent social services thanks to the tax dollars of the working American. If you think he gives a shit or has any interest in remotely understanding how the US healthcare system screws over the poor or why the Adjuster did what he did you are being naive. He is not a serious person.

It's always the same song and dance of calling me out for my nationality as some magical gotcha. Go suck a Cannelloni, maybe senpai will notice you.

 

[Helvetia]

i think they should free both luigi and ross, they're both hotties. I'll keep them under house arrest.

 

[#FreeRoss]

Before cops were a phone call away how do you think things were handled? You're awfully naive if you think justice never comes by vengeance.

We don't live in that era anymore. Do you want French Revolution-style murder of anyone who disagrees? I'm apparently so naive for thinking we shouldn't murder our political opponents. Ask the Soviet Union how well your way of thinking works out. If you have no objective form of morality, who's to say murdering conservatives is not justified because of "trans genocide"? By your mindset, justice is when you kill anybody for disagreeing.

Law is objective, you kill someone - even if that person is one of the biggest pieces of shit on the planet like in this case - you serve time for murder.
Mangione unfortunately should serve his time for murder.
Ulbricht should still be serving time for attempted murder.

I think Ross served his time for attempted murder; 10 years is enough. Mangione should get the death penalty because apparently murder is justified when it happens to bad people according to the Luigi fans ideology. I just don't understand how such a poorly argued position is so popular. Downvote me all you want, Reddit farmers; murder is still bad.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I think Ross served his time for attempted murder; 10 years is enough.

It's not nearly enough. Incompetence shouldn't be a mitigating factor.