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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Hey all, remember how they told us the Southport stabber had nothing to do with terrorism and it was impossible to know his motives? Turns out that's because he cleared his internet search history and thus completely trumped our investigators to the degree they had to go begging to the Americans for help.
Useless, lying cunts.
looks like I can stop paying for all those expensive proxies I post behind.

oh someone is knocking on the door. better answer it
 
Hey all, remember how they told us the Southport stabber had nothing to do with terrorism and it was impossible to know his motives? Turns out that's because he cleared his internet search history and thus completely trumped our investigators to the degree they had to go begging to the Americans for help.
They do not need help. They could have got that stuff easily. They choose not too. They are only doing this because Trump is in charge and everyone is pissed at them for clearly lying.
 
BBC uses wording that makes his goals seem more benevolent, their thumbnail putting him in a suit. Meanwhile the Telegraph's use of 'British troops' is more militaristic and emphasising that British soldiers will be used in a foreign conflict,

I thought (hoped) that the last thing we wanted to do was to find ourselves actively at war against Russia. Yeah, we'll give Ukraine missiles, but not actually putting men on the ground.

Is Trump awful for forcing negotiations? Is a war of attrition (which Ukraine might lose, after millions of deaths on both sides) better than coming to an agreement over which part of the Donetsk region changes hands for the time being? Are we willing to start a world war over some square kilometres of Russian-speaking territory, even if it's unfair?

Hey all, remember how they told us the Southport stabber had nothing to do with terrorism and it was impossible to know his motives? Turns out that's because he cleared his internet search history and thus completely trumped our investigators, who are shitcunts with no IT skills.

I believe in privacy on the internet. But seriously WTF! The same two clicks that give a teen plausible deniability as to whether he's been watching porno on the family computer have shielded Axel R from terrorism charges? I thought thumbnails and shit were saved somewhere until the drive is defragged or melted in acid. Surely the evidence is on that computer. Or do they just want to add extra spying powers onto the books?
 
Hey all, remember how they told us the Southport stabber had nothing to do with terrorism and it was impossible to know his motives? Turns out that's because he cleared his internet search history and thus completely trumped our investigators to the degree they had to go begging to the Americans for help.
This is the exact same shit the SNP and the conservatives were doing with their whats app groups when they were under investigation yet some how this gets you around an entire charge and now were just not allowed to question it?

And to top it all off we need another country's 3 letter glow in the darks to come over and help us because our 3 letter glow in the darks and incompetent and are some how stumped by the delete button on Google. God we are such a joke.
 
Hey all, remember how they told us the Southport stabber had nothing to do with terrorism and it was impossible to know his motives? Turns out that's because he cleared his internet search history and thus completely trumped our investigators to the degree they had to go begging to the Americans for help
So why did they not do this before the trial? Obviously, we only knew at the very last minute he was going to plead guilty. So they wasn’t going to properly look into it for the trial? How many others have been cleared of crimes because our investigators are too inept at recovering data? I bet if they thought they were “far right” it would be a different story.
 
And to top it all off we need another country's 3 letter glow in the darks to come over and help us because our 3 letter glow in the darks and incompetent and are some how stumped by the delete button on Google. God we are such a joke.
Consider there is a non-zero chance the incompetent rozzers accidentally nuked the evidence themselves. It wouldn't be the first time.
 
Does yankee involvement mean jamjar-jr was part of a larger terror cell, one that plans to attack the US?
 
I believe in privacy on the internet. But seriously WTF! The same two clicks that give a teen plausible deniability as to whether he's been watching porno on the family computer have shielded Axel R from terrorism charges? I thought thumbnails and shit were saved somewhere until the drive is defragged or melted in acid. Surely the evidence is on that computer. Or do they just want to add extra spying powers onto the books?
Computers. There's multiple different devices he was using apparently and I struggle to believe he did a dedicated wipe on all of them since he was stopped by his dad a week or so prior from heading to his old school so presumably did the same then and the devices were still usable. It seems deeply unlikely he was doing a full purge on them all.
And to top it all off we need another country's 3 letter glow in the darks to come over and help us because our 3 letter glow in the darks and incompetent and are some how stumped by the delete button on Google. God we are such a joke.
As the prior poster suggested and I agree this feels more like they are being deliberately incompetent to try to justify additional intrusion powers. Especially with the fellow behind the investigation claiming it would be easier if it was classed as terrorism and Labour's eagerness to widen that banner to include everyone who says Kier Stamer looks like he's constantly sweating due to the various oligarchs crammed shoulder deep inside his anus.
So why did they not do this before the trial? Obviously, we only knew at the very last minute he was going to plead guilty. So they wasn’t going to properly look into it for the trial? How many others have been cleared of crimes because our investigators are too inept at recovering data? I bet if they thought they were “far right” it would be a different story.
They wanted the trial over and done with and to be fair convicting him of the murder could be done swiftly. What I am livid about is they have presented absolute certainty about his motives and it turns out they have less than an hour's internet use information about him. That would also suggest they have done nothing into checking out shit like Discord, Telegram, WhatsApp or his message/call history either.
Consider there is a non-zero chance the incompetent rozzers accidentally nuked the evidence themselves. It wouldn't be the first time.
Always a possibility.
Does yankee involvement mean jamjar-jr was part of a larger terror cell, one that plans to attack the US?
I doubt it, apparently they want to ask about his Google search history and, given how much Microsoft like stealing info from computers, likely them too. This might be what they are talking about when they claim that if it was classed as terrorism it would be easier as I believe they have established processes for that.
 
everyone's been piling on Connor Tomlinson from the lotus eaters on twitter because he bad mouthed patriotic alternative and the homeland party. quite funny to see.
 

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Hey all, remember how they told us the Southport stabber had nothing to do with terrorism and it was impossible to know his motives? Turns out that's because he cleared his internet search history and thus completely trumped our investigators to the degree they had to go begging to the Americans for help.
This is more retarded than it sounds unfortunately.

Guaranteed they went to Virgin or sky or whatever isp they were with and the shit was using a VPN

Give it time and they'll cook this in to an attempt to ban them again
 
The absolute fucking state of Labour: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4z4vw3p1do
The government has met a key election pledge to deliver two million extra NHS appointments in England in its first year, the prime minister has said.

The target was achieved between July and November last year, when there were almost 2.2 million more elective care appointments compared to the same period in 2023, the government said.

That period was affected by doctor strikes, however, which would have suppressed the number of available appointments.
 
The biggest problem with assuming this is the final plan is that Trump is negotiating with Ukraine for mineral rights in the Russian-occupied area.
How is that a problem?

Puting gets his land and no NATO border country, America gets their right to mine for minerals - probably sharing with the reds, and Ukraine gets their debt waived and the definitely-not-a-european-army, European army to defend their country.
 
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How is that a problem?
The negotiation with Ukraine is for the mineral rights in areas that this image implies would be ceded to Russia. If the land is intended to be Russian territory, then negotiating with Ukraine is meaningless, because those rights would be Russia's to negotiate. The fact that the US is negotiating, right now, with Ukraine for access to those resources heavily implies the expectation that those resources will be in Ukraine's territory.

To bring it back on topic, it's optimistic to assume the UK will have many boots on the ground there, given the current state of it.
 
The negotiation with Ukraine is for the mineral rights in areas that this image implies would be ceded to Russia. If the land is intended to be Russian territory, then negotiating with Ukraine is meaningless, because those rights would be Russia's to negotiate. The fact that the US is negotiating, right now, with Ukraine for access to those resources heavily implies the expectation that those resources will be in Ukraine's territory.

To bring it back on topic, it's optimistic to assume the UK will have many boots on the ground there, given the current state of it.
I believe it's Starmer saying he'll send British troops to the Ukraine that gives that infographic some creedence, I'd be surprised if they went there in anything other than a peacekeeping role. The final plan could look very different but I'd say you're correct, I don't think there would be many British troops there. It would be augmented by French, Italian (lol), Dutch, German and maybe Balts, idk. Certainly not Polish, Tusk said absolutely not this morning. Which means logistics and communications will be a clusterfuck., especially since Americans wouldn't be involved from our bases in Poland.
 
I believe it's Starmer saying he'll send British troops to the Ukraine that gives that infographic some creedence, I'd be surprised if they went there in anything other than a peacekeeping role. The final plan could look very different but I'd say you're correct, I don't think there would be many British troops there. It would be augmented by French, Italian (lol), Dutch, German and maybe Balts, idk. Certainly not Polish, Tusk said absolutely not this morning. Which means logistics and communications will be a clusterfuck., especially since Americans wouldn't be involved from our bases in Poland.
It's looking more and more that it will just be Britain and France having troops there. Germany just said that they wont and other smaller nations will likely be opposed to it as well.

 
All of Birmingham is 90% Muslim, so that area must have a few indians or blacks thrown in.

Ever been down Broadstreet on a friday night? Don't, it's like downtown Doha during rush-hour; cars double-parked, wog-piloted ubers driving three abreast, and the accent is terrible.
There are still some really good boozers in Birmingham dotted about. Had some amazing curries there too (obvs.) Not worked there for ages but it’s weird.

The religion of peace seem to hide at night and the city centre is ok, unless you walk too far out of the centre and it’s just random groups of blacks standing around.
 
Which means logistics and communications will be a clusterfuck.
NATO apparently requires all employees, and soliders, to have fluency in English or French. They also have to have "a working knowledge" of the other.

I'd be skeptical of consistency of the quality of English with boots of the ground, most Europeans can speak some English but the quality of that some can vary. Most Scandanavians have had mandatory English lessons since Kindergarten, whereas the French half ass it as the Brits and Americans do their language. Anyone doing graduate type work are probably more fluent than British and American natives that said.

It would probably be the Americans and British who would struggle the most with this since nobody really speaks French.

Don't give them ideas though. Every two years or so since Brexit the French complain about English being the language of buisness within the EU and insist that all member states must start teaching French IMMEDIATELY and French must become the lingua franca for all members.

Nobody bothers of course because English, even with the UK outside of the EU, is still more useful. I'd be suprised if the French haven't already pushed for an EU army to be Francophone though.

There's more German than French speakers in the union, but the Germans are still a bit too embarrassed about the 1940s to suggest maybe the baguettes could learn German instead.
 
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