Snowflake shoe0nhead / June Lapine / June La Porta & Armoured Skeptic / Gregory "Greg" Fluhrer - A poor man's Boxxy: rejected by Vaush, disowned by /pol/ for burning coal, sleeps in a dog's bed surrounded by trash, and her ex-boyfriend.

[Tasty Tatty]

I think Shoe's Bernie support is just to not lose what's left of her leftist fanbase. Or a way for her to say she's not totally a rw, she's still a punk socialist leftist youngsta fighting for the revolution.

 

[Berrakh]

The last election proved people do care about material issues

People care about the price of things but redistribution? Unpopular in America.

I think Shoe's Bernie support is just to not lose what's left of her leftist fanbase. Or a way for her to say she's not totally a rw, she's still a punk socialist leftist youngsta fighting for the revolution.

Yeah. The fact he’s a cuck makes it perfect because she’ll never have to put her money where her mouth is, so to speak.

 

[cybertoaster]

People care about the price of things but redistribution? Unpopular in America.

If you force the overclass to move back and take a hit on their profit margin so the plebs can have decent jobs that's a form of redistribution according to the Chicago Boys since you're breaking the free market. Just because you're not straight up seizing the means of production does not mean you're not addressing material issues, which Trump is clearly doing with this, same with talking about the increasing cost of living, these are all material issues that the current dems try to avoid and instead talk of ephemeral political issues regarding sex and gender.

 

[Berrakh]

If you force the overclass to move back and take a hit on their profit margin so the plebs can have decent jobs that's a form of redistribution according to the Chicago Boys since you're breaking the free market. Just because you're not straight up seizing the means of production does not mean you're not addressing material issues, which Trump is clearly doing with this, same with talking about the increasing cost of living, these are all material issues that the current dems try to avoid and instead talk of ephemeral political issues regarding sex and gender.

Trump’s victory margin had more to do with trannies than immigrants, which in turn was more consequential than economic populism. Now begone, Shoe!

 

[cybertoaster]

Trump’s victory margin had more to do with trannies than immigrants, which in turn was more consequential than economic populism.

If you think trannies were a bigger concern than just the price of groceries you need to go out more and actually talk to normies, not terminally online retards. The reason gendershit managed to worm its way into western politics its precisely because the pleb class is too busy surviving to pay attention to that and the overclass don't want to talk about class issues at all as they already had a close encounter with OWS.

As for shoe, in the "nordic style" semi-commie utopia she wants she would be taxed over 70%.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

If you force the overclass to move back and take a hit on their profit margin so the plebs can have decent jobs that's a form of redistribution according to the Chicago Boys since you're breaking the free market. Just because you're not straight up seizing the means of production does not mean you're not addressing material issues, which Trump is clearly doing with this, same with talking about the increasing cost of living, these are all material issues that the current dems try to avoid and instead talk of ephemeral political issues regarding sex and gender.

The whole idea that any of that qualifies as "redistribution" comes from the same marxist playbook as "Christians also believe in sharing" before they force you to "share" your money.

And even so, that's not the kind of redistribution Bernie and his people talk about. They just want that people with more money share theirs with those who have less.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

If you think trannies were a bigger concern than just the price of groceries you need to go out more and actually talk to normies, not terminally online retards. The reason gendershit managed to worm its way into western politics its precisely because the pleb class is too busy surviving to pay attention to that and the overclass don't want to talk about class issues at all as they already had a close encounter with OWS.

As for shoe, in the "nordic style" semi-commie utopia she wants she would be taxed over 70%.

Yes, it was a big deal. Economy was an important factor, but people do tend to care that their children might be kidnapped by the government and forced to take hormones and chop off parts of their bodies. They also don't want their daughters to be beaten by some old degenerate who thinks he's five years old Cindy and wants to play sports too.

 

[cybertoaster]

The whole idea that any of that qualifies as "redistribution" comes from the same marxist playbook as "Christians also believe in sharing" before they force you to "share" your money.

And even so, that's not the kind of redistribution Bernie and his people talk about. They just want that people with more money share theirs with those who have less.

You're wasting my time arguing that I'm being marxist about this when my whole point is that people care more about how the economy (what I mean with material) is doing than gendershit be it from the left or the right. Being obsessed with this to the point it directs the way you vote is an option only the rich, the elderly and the NEET have, the people who are one paycheck away from bankruptcy thanks to the last 50 years of neoliberalism/reaganomics/globalization do care that they can't afford to put food on the table. And yes forcing a company to relocate here at a tremendous cost and becoming less competitive and less profitable just to bring back a few jobs, putting up tariffs to keep imports out thus raising prices of everything and other similar ideas are planned economy 101 which is closer to communism than capitalism even when supposedly capitalistic countries do it, saw it all over LATAM.

Yes, it was a big deal.

Had it been that big a deal Biden wouldn't have won in 2020 as this shit was already getting out of control during the first Trump government. It was only after Biden wrecked the economy that people here realized they fucked up when voting for dementia guy.

 

[Berrakh]

If you think trannies were a bigger concern than just the price of groceries you need to go out more and actually talk to normies

Literally based on polling and Trump’s most effective ad was “She’s for They/Them.”

I also might remind you that moral issues, like George Floyd (in the normie view), animated people to break lockdown orders while the devastation of their economic quality of life did not.

Humans aren’t economic units.

 

[cybertoaster]

I also might remind you that moral issues, like George Floyd (in the normie view), animated people to break lockdown orders while the devastation of their economic quality of life did not.

Because they were ALLOWED to break lockdown during the riots, there was a letter in Nature the most prestigious science magazine out there signed by tons of "scientists" saying that rioting and looting over a dead felon who OD'd was more important than keeping the "superplague" down. The moment anyone tried to break the lockdown over anything else including the economy going to shit the cops showed up immediately.

Its like how in communist countries you were allowed to protest the US neutron bomb but you would get gulag'd if you dared to protest that the regime was dumping nuclear waste on the rivers, just look at Andrei Sakharov.

 

[Berrakh]

Because they were ALLOWED

People don’t do things simply by being allowed to do them. And the permission amounted to not stopping them after they’d taken said action. They were not told they could in advance, which is what your response would imply.

Anyway, this Bannonite economic populism is old and curves back on itself. Such as Steve arguing for more affirmative action at schools like MIT because they had too many foreign students and not enough Black and Mexican “American” students.

And Steve Bannon’s style of economic populism is basically what Shuwu credits the Trump victory to and wants the Dems to emulate. And that’s retarded. She might pay lipservice to cultural issues but her affirmative plan for the Dems is that. Back on topic.

 

[NimertiS]

If you think trannies were a bigger concern than just the price of groceries you need to go out more and actually talk to normies, not terminally online retards. The reason gendershit managed to worm its way into western politics its precisely because the pleb class is too busy surviving to pay attention to that and the overclass don't want to talk about class issues at all as they already had a close encounter with OWS.

As for shoe, in the "nordic style" semi-commie utopia she wants she would be taxed over 70%.

That’s an exaggeration and I’ve been to Sweden a lot. It’s pretty livable and the ghettos are faraway from the city, when the father of my best friend (he’s an American / we are Greeks and in Greece), got robbed yesterday at 21:30 in NYC metro.

They won’t declare bankruptcy due to medical debts and they’ll get a good pension too.

 

[cybertoaster]

People don’t do things simply by being allowed to do them.

They do all the time, san francisco makes theft essentially legal and theft goes off the scales, what were the odds?

And the permission amounted to not stopping them after they’d taken said action.

You say that as if not going to jail wasn't a big deal, as in looting a store and facing no charges for it was nothing, as if that didn't get every sociopath lunatic out there to go torch libraries.

They were not told they could in advance

Yeah and the pallets of brick just materialized there too, under what rock you been living during the past 5 years? there was tremendous coordination during the 2020 riots, it didn't happen organically at all.

Back on topic.

You don't get to pull things out of your ass and just say "b-back on t-topic"

 

[ADHD]

You don't get to pull things out of your ass and just say "b-back on t-topic"

It really is time to get back on topic, though.

 

[Raven of the Burning God]

In fairness, the shoe0nhead thread being about anything more interesting than shoe0nhead is a rich tradition.

 

[LemonParty]

What June will actually end up looking like.

That sounds like a variation of "she's gonna hit the wall". Which is bullshit.

Maybe she's not an amazing person on the inside, Idk I've honestly never seen a single video but I do look at the thread occasionally. Maybe she's a "pick-me girl, bully, chameleon", etc. So what? She's a professional youtuber, they all act like that if it's their only job.

If any human, woman or man, keeps health, fitness, nutrition, and family in mind they can age gracefully. Shoe is a fairly attractive lady who's made a living on the internet without shaking her ass infront of the camera. DEAL WITH IT

 

[Tasty Tatty]

June's not ugly, but she's desperate to keep looking like a smol bean teenager who's also super smart and edgy but also cute and uwu.

She's thirty.

"Age with grace" is not just for women who fill their faces up with botox and unnecessary surgeries, it's also for people who can't accept they're not longer teens and should stop the "how do you do, fellow kids?" act. And it's not an act. She has no social skills or any skill in real life either. It's not like she's good or bad person, she just is.

Reminds me of this show "Drop Dead Diva", the protagonist dies and when she's about to enter Heaven, she's told she can't, but they can't send her to Hell either because she never did anything bad, but she didn't do anything good either. Shoe's personality is like this.

 

[Manly_Brony]

Armoured Septic should try to pick up that June clone who does OF and cut into one of her beef curtains while trimming her Jeb Bush. Kiwi something or other.

 

[Berrakh]

also super smart and edgy but also cute and uwu.

*without being racist or homophobic or anything. Hence why she’s glommed onto ScHizO things like Alex Jones bullshit about hegemonic liberalism.

 

[Berrakh]

Came here to show off these astounding banalities. But if it were coming from anyone hut Shoe both vapid sentiments would play well on here. The Christian thing is obvious but groups like antifa have ex-cons and felons in their ranks because real lefty praxis is to amass the scum of the earth in an area and use them to force radical changes. The people being mocked here would be the bloodless functionaries who enact those changes on the other side.

Posters like this equally “do not get it”

You don't get to pull things out of your ass and just say "b-back on t-topic"

Not here to debate Shoe’s idea of politics just because it’s coming from a half-wit kiwi. You were just wrong on any empirical point about the election and had to appeal to unfalsifiable ideas of people spontaneously reacting to an already viral video merely because they were “merely allowed to” and not because they’d been primed to be moralistic about the issues of black bodies. People did it for social cred. The system allowing them to was downstream of and convergent with that fact. Ironically this is downplaying how far the summer of floyd went, while saying I am unaware of the coordination as if coordinating safety precautions made people show up in the first place, in order to sell the idea it was the one protest that was merely allowed to exist. Something Shoe herself probably does as well.

The Economic Explanations(tm) of these things are obviously backward rationalizations. And your Soviet analogy was very tortured and was merely an attempt to look generically informed. But it’s essentially irrelevant broad strokes slop.