Wasn't telemetry supposed to make bugs easier to fix? It feels like windows gets less stable every year.
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That was the original intent.
Then Satya came in and laid off nearly all their QA so they rely almost entirely on telemetry in place of their formerly extensive QA automation.
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Not even LTSC and everything runs just fine for me. No crashes, no instabilities. I don't know if everyone else does something wrong with their OS or is there something I'm doing right, even though I know I also do a lot of things wrong with it.
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Did he really? Total pajeet death
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In 2014 during Windows 10's development. I recall seeing a barnacules video about him being laid off as he was part of the QA team.
Edit: Well, the "test organization (ESC)" as he puts it in his linkedin.
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I am so fucking sick of Windows 11. I'm sure underneath it's fine. But Microsoft shit it up so much. You know the sidebar in Windows explorer that shows locations like Desktop, other drives, etc? Well on my W11 laptop that doesn't load immediately. Sometimes the main panel doesn't load. I get a fucking spinning timer symbol on the tab!
I can get to a location by typing it into the address bar. And then the main panel will show whatever is there. But the left bar is still "loading". I'm 100% certain this is because MS want it to look something up it can't find - maybe one of my mapped drives. They probably don't imagine anyone uses mapped drives anymore - why would they when everyone can use their glorious OneDrive for storing every thing and accessed from everywhere! Or maybe it's some Internet thing. I don't know. All I know is that Windows Explorer used to not be a fucking web app thing made local and it used to load instantly. I've been trying for six minutes now to just transfer a simple file.
Fuck Microsoft.
I can get to a location by typing it into the address bar. And then the main panel will show whatever is there. But the left bar is still "loading". I'm 100% certain this is because MS want it to look something up it can't find - maybe one of my mapped drives. They probably don't imagine anyone uses mapped drives anymore - why would they when everyone can use their glorious OneDrive for storing every thing and accessed from everywhere! Or maybe it's some Internet thing. I don't know. All I know is that Windows Explorer used to not be a fucking web app thing made local and it used to load instantly. I've been trying for six minutes now to just transfer a simple file.
Fuck Microsoft.
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The last time I used Win11 I ran into a similar loading delay thanks to the tabbing in notepad: I had opened a text file on a LAN samba server, shut the server down, and some time later I tried opening another text file saved locally on the Win11 machine's C drive. Notepad locked up. After some testing, I found out that the entire application was freezing because notepad had remembered the previously opened remote .txt, kept a tab open for it between sessions, but then wouldn't load any text file until it had tried it's damnedest to load the inaccessible remote file whose tab I wasn't even trying to access.
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You can be gay and proud by using Windows 11 LTSC.
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Microsoft, 2021: "You're fine on 8th gen and above with Win 11"
Microsoft, today: "I meant until 2025, lol"
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For how long are they going to pretend Moore's law isn't dead, buried and decomposed? A PC that is 10 years old today can still do everything. Something is going to have to give, I just don't see people upgrading over what's literally nothing.
The Windows 10 EOL is going to be very interesting to witness. I suspect the vast majority of people who don't want Windows 11 will do one of two things:
- keep Windows 10 and not care about lack of updates;
- switch to Mac.
I'm sorry, fellow GNU+Linux bros, year of the Linux desktop never.
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With Windows 11, they used the TPM for forced obsolescence. For Windows 12, it'll probably be the NPU.
However, this doesn't mean 8th, 9th, or 10th gen processors are disqualified from upgrading to Windows 11 24H2. It is just something they are forcing OEMs to comply with for new systems. They can even use turds like the Celeron N4500, which I still see sold at Walmart.
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>switch to Mac
>Apple stops supporting the locked computer/phone after a couple of years
>gotta buy the expensive device again
I know this is not the Linux thread but if people refuse the Linux solution and move to Mac then they get what they fucking deserve, unironically.
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Honestly I blame GNOME. If it wasn't so godawful, but the default for nearly every platform, then people would've switch to Ubuntu years ago. Gnome single handedly caused many of the Linux forks that just serve to add confusion.
We finally have Linux Mint though, a platform that's focused on user experience and stability.
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I have one box running Windows 11 IOT LTSC for being the least bloated Windows, but I never fire it up.
Linux autist here. I think I've used IceWM for 20 years, Openbox for a quite a while too as far as window managers requiring almost no resources. Mabox is Arch with Openbox. They run on a 12 year old Thinkpad gracefully. Linux Mint is the most intuitive, and is easiest to get going with great driver support if you are considering Lunix.
If you need gaming, Bazzite or Nobara are the bees knees. You still won't be able to play Fortnight or anything that requires kernel-level DRM. Everything else is golden.
Linux autist here. I think I've used IceWM for 20 years, Openbox for a quite a while too as far as window managers requiring almost no resources. Mabox is Arch with Openbox. They run on a 12 year old Thinkpad gracefully. Linux Mint is the most intuitive, and is easiest to get going with great driver support if you are considering Lunix.
If you need gaming, Bazzite or Nobara are the bees knees. You still won't be able to play Fortnight or anything that requires kernel-level DRM. Everything else is golden.
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In more positive Windows news, Massgrave team has finally released Microsoft Activation Scripts 3.0 last week which include their new activation method, TSForge (Archive). They even released a blog post explaining how it works and what they did to figure out how to make it work (Archive), a lot of in-depth Windows fuckery if you're interested in that sort of thing.
In short: they broke Microsoft's main DRM that is Software Protection Platform. You can now activate Windows, from 7 to 11, as well as Microsoft Office from 2013 onward on Windows 8 and up, AND most importantly, enable Extended Security Updates on Windows 7 and onward. All of it is permanent, offline, and won't get affected by hardware changes.
For the sake of it I've installed Windows 7 on my old PC and used it for activation. The OS got activated with the Ethernet cable plugged out, and it enabled ESU after all the necessary updates got installed from offline files, where after hooking it back up to the web, Windows Update started pulling and installing updates from 2020 onward.
This means that yes, it does work, and it means that you'll be able to get ESU on regular Windows 10 installs if you don't want to or can't switch to LTSC IoT. I activated ESU on my main Win10 install, where I've decided against going with LTSC IoT for some reason when I had to reinstall it, so I'll see if it'll work in months from now once Microsoft pulls the main plug on Win10 updates since I doubt I'll be doing another reinstall anytime soon.
The real question is: will Microsoft go out of their way to patch this on Windows 10/11? Or will they not care as usual to the benefit of everyone else?
In short: they broke Microsoft's main DRM that is Software Protection Platform. You can now activate Windows, from 7 to 11, as well as Microsoft Office from 2013 onward on Windows 8 and up, AND most importantly, enable Extended Security Updates on Windows 7 and onward. All of it is permanent, offline, and won't get affected by hardware changes.
For the sake of it I've installed Windows 7 on my old PC and used it for activation. The OS got activated with the Ethernet cable plugged out, and it enabled ESU after all the necessary updates got installed from offline files, where after hooking it back up to the web, Windows Update started pulling and installing updates from 2020 onward.
This means that yes, it does work, and it means that you'll be able to get ESU on regular Windows 10 installs if you don't want to or can't switch to LTSC IoT. I activated ESU on my main Win10 install, where I've decided against going with LTSC IoT for some reason when I had to reinstall it, so I'll see if it'll work in months from now once Microsoft pulls the main plug on Win10 updates since I doubt I'll be doing another reinstall anytime soon.
The real question is: will Microsoft go out of their way to patch this on Windows 10/11? Or will they not care as usual to the benefit of everyone else?
The one thing that unites both threads is that we both use x86 ATX platforms and we can do whatever the fuck we want with our hardware. Windows, Linux, BSD, FreeDOS, TempleOS, whatever, we have the inherent freedom of running whichever software we want on our machines, and the ability to keep them running for as long as the hardware works. I mean, remember Hackintoshes?
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How long are the Win7 ESUs good for? Is it truly dead now? I think Windows 10 IOT LTSC goes until 2027.
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They ended in 2023, so it is proper dead by now. Just some extra touchups for what otherwise you don't want to run online. ESU's for Windows 10 will go on until 2028 and IoT LTSC will be supported until 2032. According to Massgrave, you can install regular LTSC which comes in other languages than English and IIRC you can remove Edge from it without resorting to the nuclear method which is deleting the installation folder, then swap the key to the IoT LTSC one and that'll get updates until 2032 as well.