Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

No matter what happens next, I think the US is out. The collective west involved themselves in their latest folly, fucked it up worse than if they just left it alone (as usual), and now the US has left Europe holding the bag. Russia has just appeared 10x bigger in the eyes of Europe. Ukraine 100x shittier as they will want infini-gibs for various reasons, without Uncle Sam's pockets that's going to be very expensive.

What is Europe going to do, sanction the US for not participating in a foreign war anymore? That would be a great idea considering how much LPG the US now supplies Europe. All Trump has to do is jack the price and it's going to be a very cold dark winter without that Russian gas. Eco green faggotry means most of Europe can't drill any gas/oil or mine minerals/coal. The Russian gas isn't coming back anytime soon, even if it does, not at the cheap price it was before.

I live in the UK. Our prime minister has just been made to look like a colossal faggot (coincidentally, he is one) talking about sending soldiers as peacekeepers, only to realise nobody else is. As it turns out, our army is too small and underequipped for these antics without the US being involved, which everyone seemed to know apart from the PM.

I can only hope this is the humbling the UK and European governments need to wake up from this idea they are a global power, deport all the brown people, and reindustrialise. But I have a feeling they will just sit in the cuck chair and continue to make their people's lives miserable in any way possible.
 
The US will still get its share or at least what territory Ukraine has left to pay back after the war. Trying to get relations closer to India and trying to drive a wedge between Russia and China, say what you want about Trump but at least he is looking after the interests of the U.S. to remain powerful(at least attempting to break apart BRICS). I feel like there is less freedom in China and North Korea which I don't want to get too much power and influence. There really is no point trying to be friends with countries ruled by females and getting swarmed with African migrants to do business with in the long run.

I am also surprised he has the brains to pursue the arctic rush for oil like another certain country is doing.
 
No matter what happens next, I think the US is out. The collective west involved themselves in their latest folly, fucked it up worse than if they just left it alone (as usual), and now the US has left Europe holding the bag. Russia has just appeared 10x bigger in the eyes of Europe. Ukraine 100x shittier as they will want infini-gibs for various reasons, without Uncle Sam's pockets that's going to be very expensive.

What is Europe going to do, sanction the US for not participating in a foreign war anymore? That would be a great idea considering how much LPG the US now supplies Europe. All Trump has to do is jack the price and it's going to be a very cold dark winter without that Russian gas. Eco green faggotry means most of Europe can't drill any gas/oil or mine minerals/coal. The Russian gas isn't coming back anytime soon, even if it does, not at the cheap price it was before.

I live in the UK. Our prime minister has just been made to look like a colossal faggot (coincidentally, he is one) talking about sending soldiers as peacekeepers, only to realise nobody else is. As it turns out, our army is too small and underequipped for these antics without the US being involved, which everyone seemed to know apart from the PM.

I can only hope this is the humbling the UK and European governments need to wake up from this idea they are a global power, deport all the brown people, and reindustrialise. But I have a feeling they will just sit in the cuck chair and continue to make their people's lives miserable in any way possible.
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Big if true.

Real big.
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So how long until the azovs start selling the weapons we gave them in the black market? and how long until some euro cops' car gets blasted by a "new european of peace" with a TOW missile? place your bets...
NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THE UKRANIAN OLIGARCHS NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THIS NOOOOOOOOO
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No one would be this stupid
Not even Zelensky, nothing will happen, and if something does happen i would be more inclined to believe that it would be a Russian false flag.
If Ukraine wasn't stupid they would've noticed that they had a very high death toll and losing ground while Russia seemed to be stable, and realized that maybe they shouldn't have continued the war another two years
 
Zelensky thought he could insult Trump like any of the other powerless Eurocuck leaders, and by doing so he has just signed his own death warrant.

On another note, I wonder if the $350 billion Trump speaks of is closer to the inofficial, true amount -- much higher than what was spent officially. Would maybe explain the gap in the Pentagon's budget.

Trump's squeeze play for minerals on Zman is incredible and I hope it works. Zman is going to get killed by so many different people for so many reasons and his only potential 'friend' that matters now is Trump. But the powder has him doing powder stuff and thinking powder thoughts, he cannot be in a serious state of mind.
 
Gorbachev was supposed to bring the West a kindler, gentler communism. He was a literal hero to American leftists. They held parades for him.
How the hell does someone on the other side of the world get listed a hero like that. You might as well say that someone named *klick*klick*pop*pop* from the rural areas of Uganda was a hero because he helped the missionaries who brought Evangelicalism to his village.
 
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Big "if." Source: trust me bro, in a German newspaper, on the eve of a German election that's almost certainly going to end with a Frankenstein's monster coalition to keep the former East Germany locked out of political representation the heccin' race-mixing lesbo-Nazi away from the levers of power because democracy or something. Doesn't pass the sniff test IMO
 
Big "if." Source: trust me bro, in a German newspaper, on the eve of a German election that's almost certainly going to end with a Frankenstein's monster coalition to keep the former East Germany locked out of political representation the heccin' race-mixing lesbo-Nazi away from the levers of power because democracy or something. Doesn't pass the sniff test IMO
You're correct but that it's even being discussed means both bureaucrats in the EU and US are petrified their grifts are dead. Maybe the Baltic/Finnish NATO bases are on the table, I don't know, but it's an indication some serious issues are on the table.
 
Big "if." Source: trust me bro, in a German newspaper, on the eve of a German election that's almost certainly going to end with a Frankenstein's monster coalition to keep the former East Germany locked out of political representation the heccin' race-mixing lesbo-Nazi away from the levers of power because democracy or something. Doesn't pass the sniff test IMO
I may be (inappropriately) be thinking rationally here, but wouldn't that boost the opposition?

"Hey the guys in power fucked up so bad out only protector/benefactor is pulling up stakes and getting the fuck out"?

Or is it trying to play to the faggy European sense of "we got rid of those boorish Americans!" without actually understanding what that means?
 
I may be (inappropriately) be thinking rationally here, but wouldn't that boost the opposition?

"Hey the guys in power fucked up so bad out only protector/benefactor is pulling up stakes and getting the fuck out"?

Or is it trying to play to the faggy European sense of "we got rid of those boorish Americans!" without actually understanding what that means?
I think it's more "things are scary right now so we need to support the status quo EVEN HARDER or the Austrian painter comes back to life."
 
Regarding BRICS and China, you're absolutely correct. Trump has this wishful thinking that he can drive a wedge between china and russia, but as others pointed out, Putin is very keenly aware that even if Trump can be 100% trusted (which is already a stretch), he'll leave office in 4 years, and then what? His relations with China and Xi dates back decades.
Yes, and also weaponizing swift and the currency is a bell that can never be un-rung. If it has been done once it can be done again and best to get insurance against that.
That i not just Russia distrusting the west but every single country that suspects "will I be next?".

Trump can not un-ring that bell no matter how good deal-maker he thinks he is and no matter what he offers in exchange.

EDIT: About Ukraine. Once there is peace with russia I think there is a non-zero chance that civil war will break out. There are a lot of scores that need to be settled once Russia is not problem #1.
 
The cope from the other thread is verging on straight up frothing at the mouth rage posting. If any of the regulars are American citizens Null should probably give their info over to the secret service to be safe.
Let me guess, they are wishing death upon Trump/Elon/anyone who doesn't want a nuclear war?
 
Reddit especially r/europe is really entertaining to read right now.
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Redditors whole world view has been shattered.
Drumpf is talking with Putler.
Ukrainian Endsieg is not going to happen.
And Eurocrats are powerless to do anything aboutit, because it is not 1910 anymore.
Reckoning has come faggots!
 
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The cope from the other thread is verging on straight up frothing at the mouth rage posting. If any of the regulars are American citizens Null should probably give their info over to the secret service to be safe.
liberal socialists or browns in the EU that are worried about no more free gibs. I would have given them the benefit of a doubt if they just gave me 1 reason why supporting Zelensky in some way is beneficial to the U.S.
 
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