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Should be a wild four years.

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i can't believe some of you are dumb enough to bother with a legit scam that only exists to con companies into thinking everyone needs to know "gender" studies and siphon money from the government in exchange for providing permanent debt slaves through propagandisized midwits
Thanks for reminding me that the literal only reason I do not have a degree is because I refused to take the gender studies clsss
 
Ok I got to call out the populist Trump types here and ask some questions.

1: You say that Elon's comment about giving every American 5000 dollars would not cause inflation and would not be a big deal, but republicans kept saying how the war in Ukraine was costing America to much money even though giving every American 5000 would cost more then America has spent on Ukraine the entire war.
Read the thread, at best there's mixed reception here. It wouldn't cause inflation if it was taken from existing expenditures and not a new one though.
2: How does America giving up on Ukraine benefit America ? ?Ukraine talked about a 500 billion dollar mineral deal meanwhile giving up would on America nothing and make all the previous money spent a waste.
"Giving up" and trying to broker a peace deal are different things. We're trying to broker a peace deal. Threatening to remove funding is keeping them at the table at all. Maybe I don't like paying for slavs to kill each other, too.
3: Be honest why do you hate European countries so much ? The majority of Americans are European and even if you are not as an American Europe is your spiritual motherland. If you want to be able to keep up with China at a time when China is making inroads with other countries for deals you can't alienate your base, if you want to support Israel (I don't know why you would but the majority of Trump voters do) then you shouldn't alienate Europe t a time when more and more are getting stick of Israel and recognizing Palestinian state hood.
Lol, get fucked eurocuck.
 
NASA proved that we can change the orbit of asteroids with minimal effort by using unmanned probes. We also landed on an asteroid and got some bitching pictures. What are you talking about, dude?
I'm talking about how that does not form a true connection with the public at large. Sending people to outer space is the ultimate flex. People care about people, they'll remember what human did personally over what a probe did. Probes should only be used as a setup for manned flight, not the main focus. Otherwise, you'll be in danger of stagnating on the list of tech advancements needed for mankind to go further into space. Look how much we had to rediscover the past few decades because we shelved deep space flight for man since the moon landings. From the rockets to the space suits themselves. It was honestly a large blackpill. If it wasn't for Musk, we'd be completely fucked still.

Tldr, we need to focus on putting man into space or we will never truly incentivise the tech needed to do so. We need pioneers and natiobal heroes.
 
Ok I got to call out the populist Trump types here and ask some questions.

1: You say that Elon's comment about giving every American 5000 dollars would not cause inflation and would not be a big deal, but republicans kept saying how the war in Ukraine was costing America to much money even though giving every American 5000 would cost more then America has spent on Ukraine the entire war.
The money already exists, so it has already devalued the individual unit. You’re just talking about altering its circulation route from transfers between banks and stock markets (not to mention going into the pockets of third world trannies) to the street level economy
2: How does America giving up on Ukraine benefit America ? ?Ukraine talked about a 500 billion dollar mineral deal meanwhile giving up would on America nothing and make all the previous money spent a waste.
How much more would it cost to ensure the geopolitical stability of Ukraine for said mineral extraction? Sunk cost fallacy. The money we spent on Ukraine bought some scumbags some nice dachas and yachts, and buried a lot of normal people.

Let’s just dig our own minerals
3: Be honest why do you hate European countries so much ? The majority of Americans are European and even if you are not as an American Europe is your spiritual motherland.
We fled Europe because it sucked
If you want to be able to keep up with China at a time when China is making inroads with other countries for deals you can't alienate your base,
China is wasting money on Africans who will never, ever pay them back. China can just go ahead and write off what they’ve spent
if you want to support Israel (I don't know why you would but the majority of Trump voters do) then you shouldn't alienate Europe t a time when more and more are getting stick of Israel and recognizing Palestinian state hood.
Because Europe is going to what, do something?
 
I'm talking about how that does not form a true connection with the public at large. Sending people to outer space is the ultimate flex. People care about people, they'll remember what human did personally over what a probe did. Probes should only be used as a setup for manned flight, not the main focus. Otherwise, you'll be in danger of stagnating on the list of tech advancements needed for mankind to go further into space. Look how much we had to rediscover the past few decades because we shelved deep space flight for man since the moon landings. From the rockets to the space suits themselves. It was honestly a large blackpill. If it wasn't for Musk, we'd be completely fucked still.

Tldr, we need to focus on putting man into space or we will never truly incentivise the tech needed to do so. We need pioneers and natiobal heroes.
Yes, we stagnated so hard that we invented GPS, landed on asteroids, redirected asteroids, and have the most powerful telescope in orbit. We did not have to "rediscover" anything. I ask again: what the fuck are you talking about, dude?
 
Hi, I would love $5000 but this is a bad idea. We should be aiming to reduce the national debt so that we can, in the long term, sustain our country without a mountain of interest staring us in the face, while also lowering individual taxes.

Blowing billions on a “we’re sorry” isn’t the way to do it. Put it into infrastructure, the economy, etc. and let the $5000 end up in my pocket over the long term.
After thinking on it, basically this. While there have been massive amounts of government overspending, there has also been plaves where it should be spent, but hasn't, because we had to first support the grift. The fact that many houses in america still have lead paint come to mind, but a bill to fix it was shot down because we didn't have the money at the time.
 
They had four years to plan for this. By the end of 2023 it was probably apparent internally that they were going to win with a massive public mandate. I'm not writing off the Administration after only a month.
You're getting pushback because of conflating Congress with the Trump administration. Congress doesn't pass laws in under a month. It is not realistic to even fret about a lack of legislation a month into a new session of Congress. It reeks of concern trolling and people are tired of searching for nuance in bad-faith arguments.

So unfortunately you are catching strays for that reason; I believe you are being genuine.

As Trump shows these Executive Orders don't burn down the government, Congress will gain political cover to make them permanent. They also need time to make extra sure new legislation doesn't create future problems, which happens with rushed legislation.
 
Yes, we stagnated so hard that we invented GPS, landed on asteroids, redirected asteroids, and have the most powerful telescope in orbit. We did not have to "rediscover" anything. I ask again: what the fuck are you talking about, dude?
"Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

-Mark Twain
 
1: You say that Elon's comment about giving every American 5000 dollars would not cause inflation and would not be a big deal, but republicans kept saying how the war in Ukraine was costing America to much money even though giving every American 5000 would cost more then America has spent on Ukraine the entire war.
I think it's a dumb idea. It doesn't cause inflation if it's taken from existing spending; but I think it just shouldn't be done regardless.
2: How does America giving up on Ukraine benefit America ? ?Ukraine talked about a 500 billion dollar mineral deal meanwhile giving up would on America nothing and make all the previous money spent a waste.
Ukraine's issue is Zelenskyy being insane (demanding nukes) and refusing to make any concessions; and in an election (which would occur when the war ends) would be ousted (very low approval ratings) for another leader that might be more partial to continuing deals like the 500 billion mineral deal. Even if it was lost, losing even more because of the previous money spent is a sunk cost fallacy.
3: Be honest why do you hate European countries so much ? The majority of Americans are European and even if you are not as an American Europe is your spiritual motherland. If you want to be able to keep up with China at a time when China is making inroads with other countries for deals you can't alienate your base, if you want to support Israel (I don't know why you would but the majority of Trump voters do) then you shouldn't alienate Europe t a time when more and more are getting stick of Israel and recognizing Palestinian state hood.
Because Europe doesn't share America's values (German decriminalization of CSAM, French attempted seizure of Telegram, UK arrests for complaints about rape gangs) yet demands gibs and offers in return spite (tariffs, general disdain for America).
I don't think Europe is America's "base", they have very clear disdain/disregard for America and American values. I think they make whatever deals with China they want regardless.
I don't want to support Israel, nor do I want to stand against it. I honestly don't really care about Israel; it is what it is.
 
I'm talking about how that does not form a true connection with the public at large. Sending people to outer space is the ultimate flex. People care about people, they'll remember what human did personally over what a probe did. Probes should only be used as a setup for manned flight, not the main focus. Otherwise, you'll be in danger of stagnating on the list of tech advancements needed for mankind to go further into space. Look how much we had to rediscover the past few decades because we shelved deep space flight for man since the moon landings. From the rockets to the space suits themselves. It was honestly a large blackpill. If it wasn't for Musk, we'd be completely fucked still.

Tldr, we need to focus on putting man into space or we will never truly incentivise the tech needed to do so. We need pioneers and natiobal heroes.
People who think science needs Michael Bay movie sequences should not be allowed a seat at the discussion table.
 
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