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Should be a wild four years.

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Endless Torment said:
I was fine with Putin doing what needed to be done in Russia and I always thought the American foreign policy of treating Russia and Putin as the devil was always retarded and we should have made diplomatic ties with him decades ago, but I'm not going to defend the invasion of Ukraine.
I also don't believe using the same words as Russian propaganda and favoring Russia in the concessions is good for our country, our allies, and only emboldens our enemies. The war needs to end, but not in such a way it makes all of eastern Europe not trust us.
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As I stated previously in this thread, the idea of Russia being our "FOREVER ENEMY" (when China is the obvious and real threat) was fucking retarded. These boomers still think we're in the middle of the cold war, and sadly, that kind of brainrot is infectious, 'cause I see a lot of the younger generation parroting this shit too. It's fuckin' sad. Eurofags want us to get involved with forever wars, and have us foot the bill while they don't lift a finger to help, or pay for it. Nah. We're fuckin' done. Trump cutting them off from a negotiation from a war THEY started should've been the kick in the nuts they so desperately needed.

We're not Europe's Sugar Daddy.
 
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I'm in the camp of "Get our jobs and futures in order and make the country worth living in again" first over taking another round of money. Even as a modest earning guy myself 5K is shorter term.

Give us roads that aren't filled with bullshit holes and dead man's blind curves and audit the fuckers who were meant to fix that for the last 30 years, stop talking about it and start moving towards nuclear power. Also use that budget to heavily audit power and water companies and the rates they charge people since no one's utility bills went down at all over 10 years with LED bulbs, low flow toilets and energy star HVACs that coke out when they're actually needed.

Save people more across a decade than a single lump sum would give.
 
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BullfrogBill said:
I respect the sentiment, but I have to disagree with this. There have already been gargantuan budget cuts under Trump as it is that sending these checks won't be as devastating as the democrats want to fearmonger about. The American people have been cheated BIG TIME. If Trump were to just say "aw shucks, you dumb fucks got cheated out of trillions of your hard earned dollars and you get NOTHING in return for it, I guess your gonna have to get back to work to make more money, retard. Better hope no one steals that money as well you dumb fucks!! USA USA USA!!!" that would be a gigantic blow to US morale if you ask me. Getting $5000 doesn't make up for all the money we've had stolen from us by our own government but it is a nice gesture to alleviate the blow while helping us all get on track to move forward and regain trust with our government. It's the fucking least the administration could do as a "sorry that you were lied to (and are still being lied to) about what has happened to your money, here's this check as a token of our desire to regain your trust." Your argument that we will all have $5000 in our pockets in time if we don't get the checks works the same way in that the government will make the money back in no time thanks to the massive cuts in spending Trump has implemented.
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I'm fine if it's a one time thing, is only a portion of the DOGE savings, and the rest from here on out goes to paying down the debt.
Partially, that's for selfish reasons because it'd get me out of the hole I've been in for a year and a half after an unexpected medical expense paired with higher cost of living making it harder to pay off, plus some extra to put towards moving to a bigger place to make room for new family members.
Even if not though, lower gas and grocery prices would get me to the same place eventually anyway so whatever.
 
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FatalTater said:
I don't think anyone should have kids after age 35 because of personal experience being the kid of older parents.
It sucked seeing other parents doing things with their kids that my parents were too tired and/or apathetic to bother with. Having to explain that yes, those were my parents and not my grandma and grandpa was unpleasant too.
We don't need to go into dealing with the health problems of the elderly and what it does to their kids.

Don't have kids if you're old. Just admire your friends' pictures of their grandkids and call it a day.
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If you genuinely feel that way kill yourself what you are saying knowingly or unknowingly is "It would be better if I didn't exist" now put up or shut up.
 
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marvlouslie said:
As I stated previously in this thread, the idea of Russia being our "FOREVER ENEMY" (when China is the obvious and real threat) was fucking retarded. These boomers still think we're in the middle of the cold war, and sadly, that kind of brainrot is infectious, 'cause I see a lot of the younger generation parroting this shit too. It's fuckin' sad. Eurofags want us to get involved with forever wars, and have us foot the bill while they don't lift a finger to help, or pay for it. Nah. We're fuckin' done. Trump cutting them off from a negotiation from a war THEY started should've been the kick in the nuts they so desperately needed.

We're not Europe's Sugar Daddy.
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you think we should try to ally more Russia in order to dampen its allieship with china?
 
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UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid said:
The welfare system in the US is retarded, like many of the systems in the US government.

"Welfare Cliffs" are some of the most obvious retardation. Example:
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Earning more money from a wage shouldn't result in having less money.

After DOGE is done auditing, there should be work done optimizing the incentive structures of government programs. The Democrats shouldn't be allowed to amass an army of welfare slaves. But, corporations shouldn't control people's lives either.

We need Behavioral Scientists/Psychologists to stop developing video game "Skinner boxes" and instead help motivate productive citizens. I know you could get niggers to "side-hussle" up a storm if given the right "rat maze" to hussle in.

But, there is always that big lurking problem of psychopaths building a parasitic cabal. Dealing with that is like trying to cure societal cancer.

One thing I know. Remaining positive and optimistic (not delusional) really does improve the odds of success. It was hard to imagine the second Trump administration would look like how it current is, but here we are.
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If you think the welfare system in the US is poorly set up, you should see Europe. At least in America, EITC in contingent on work, and EBT has at least some restrictions. We would not survive, given our demographics, a European welfare system, where in Germany they provide lump sums for years and years while not working and parties had to fight to make welfare in a card instead of cash (so that they at least buy things that are legal and not drugs or prostitutes).
 
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>IMPLYING said:
3. I can't answer for Americans, but it's very easy to deduce why. In the UK, everyone outside of London hates London. The population are the most full of themselves, adhere to hyper progressive politics and look down on the rest of the country. Now imagine the insufferable capitals of every European nation speaking in unison, emphasising their own arrogance and perceived superiority whilst being dismissive of America, so immersed in their own pride that they are not only ignorant to how the rest of their own country perceives them, how restrictive their lives actually are, and how their political causes are contributing to the downfall of their nation, but also of how interlinked their country is with the United states and how much America contributes to their quality of life, even if indirectly. I haven't even touched on the politicians who often come from these people, such as the Germans who laughed at Trump when he told them that an energy crisis was incoming way back when. I like to think - and hope - that the combination of insufferable haters, liberals and politicians hasn't completely marred people's opinions here of all Europeans, and that when they speak with disdain, it's about those people, not all of us.
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Honestly this is what I was looking to hear. I suspected the reason Trump populist were sperging about Ukraine was a dislike of Eurocrats and what they see as "socialism" but throwing foreign policy options out out the window for that is so retarded.
 
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