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Should be a wild four years.

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I mean, I don't think we should antagonize anyone, but I dunno. You know the saying. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
China literally fucks with us in every way they can think of. Setting up weird biolabs in abandoned buildings, putting their own “police stations” to repress Chinese Americans who DON’T suck CCP dick, oh in the 2000’s they literally poisoned hundreds of thousands of American babies by putting industrial chemicals in baby formula to fake the protein content of actual powdered milk, they steal IP from every American company stupid enough to work with them, they honeypot every retarded Californian politician they can get their hands on, and they ship massive amounts of precursor chemicals for Mexican cartels to provide our dregs with fentanyl, so REALLY, what did Russia ever do to us directly, other than RT being a news company that everyone fucking knew was Russian?
 
China literally fucks with us in every way they can think of. Setting up weird biolabs in abandoned buildings, putting their own “police stations” to repress Chinese Americans who DON’T suck CCP dick, oh in the 2000’s they literally poisoned hundreds of thousands of American babies by putting industrial chemicals in baby formula to fake the protein content of actual powdered milk, they steal IP from every American company stupid enough to work with them, they honeypot every retarded Californian politician they can get their hands on, and they ship massive amounts of precursor chemicals for Mexican cartels to provide our dregs with fentanyl, so REALLY, what did Russia ever do to us directly, other than RT being a news company that everyone fucking knew was Russian?
dont forget about COVID.
 
dont forget about COVID.
Covid was our deep state being so fucking far off the deep end that they decided to just go ahead and TEACH serial passage to the Chinese fucking military.

It was pure treason

Between 2010 and 2014, the CCP was given information that allowed them to break the encryption of the radios our CIA agents in China were using. They were massacred, several were publicly executed without a trial.

How many CCP rats have we publicly executed?

But I think it was John the fat fucking communist Brennan coming to an accord with the CCP. I think they did it on purpose for a purge

Ask yourself, why was an avowed communist who voted for Gus Hall recruited to the CIA in the first place, and why was he elevated to the fucking directorship?

So you have a communist cia director when our entire cia footprint gets wiped out in a communist country where we are sending tax dollars to fund serial passage enhancement of novel coronaviruses, like at what point does this start to bother people?
 
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Honestly this is what I was looking to hear. I suspected the reason Trump populist were sperging about Ukraine was a dislike of Eurocrats and what they see as "socialism" but throwing foreign policy options out out the window for that is so retarded.
Might be optimistic of me but I don't think any options are out the window. America's too important to a lot of Europe for anything but bluster to any of America's demands, and I don't think Trump/America ought to care about the whinging of Leftist European politicians who are just saying what they're saying to appeal to their base. There's going to be arguments but things are going to remain cordial because it's not like any aggressive actions have been taken. It's just general politicking. As soon as more conservative politicians come to power, things will be all Hunky Dory. The only country possibly getting shafted in this whole affair Ukraine, but I'm sure the Ukrainian conscripts appreciate no longer being forced to fight in a war they have no chance of winning, for a president whose approval has dropped into the single digits according to Trump.

I think people have the right to be upset that their country is being insulted by foreigners, and they'll use a blanket insult for X-state/political entity since the same was done to them.
 
Honestly this is what I was looking to hear. I suspected the reason Trump populist were sperging about Ukraine was a dislike of Eurocrats and what they see as "socialism" but throwing foreign policy options out out the window for that is so retarded.
What foreign policy options? What can be gained for America by sending its boy to fight and die while robbing the taxpayer to pay for it?

When do we just throw our hands up and let Europeans decide for themselves if they're willing to fight and die to check Russian aggression?

The people who are the most angry about the US not declaring war on Russia are the people who would never pick up a weapon or encourage their children to enlist. They are rank cowards who want to send young men that are strangers to them to their deaths so that they can feel happier when they watch the news.

There are no positives to a military conflict with Russia. We gain literally nothing for sacrificing our men and citizens well being so that a muslim in the UK can have his free healthcare. If they want to be free, let them bleed for it.

We've been bleeding for their freedom for nearly a hundred years. It's time for them give their pint.
 
As I stated previously in this thread, the idea of Russia being our "FOREVER ENEMY" (when China is the obvious and real threat) was fucking retarded. These boomers still think we're in the middle of the cold war, and sadly, that kind of brainrot is infectious, 'cause I see a lot of the younger generation parroting this shit too. It's fuckin' sad. Eurofags want us to get involved with forever wars, and have us foot the bill while they don't lift a finger to help, or pay for it. Nah. We're fuckin' done. Trump cutting them off from a negotiation from a war THEY started should've been the kick in the nuts they so desperately needed.

We're not Europe's Sugar Daddy.
Europe needs to man up and pay for their own defense. I’ve heard the general consensus across American party lines (at least privately) is that Russia isn’t a threat to the US anymore, I think that’s in part because of the Ukrainian war. I’m open to being friendlier to Russia idk if they’re open to it because their boomers still hate us with a passion of a 1000 burning suns. But hey all the boomers are on the way out so perhaps when they’re gone they’ll be more amenable.

Trump should give the NATO countries an ultimatum. Either deport your muzzies en masse or we’re out of NATO. If they refuse that they deserve to be curbstomped by Russia.
 
Give us roads that aren't filled with bullshit holes and dead man's blind curves and audit the fuckers who were meant to fix that for the last 30 years, stop talking about it and start moving towards nuclear power. Also use that budget to heavily audit power and water companies and the rates they charge people since no one's utility bills went down at all over 10 years with LED bulbs, low flow toilets and energy star HVACs that coke out when they're actually needed.
I would agree with this, but that's mostly outside of federal purview. You don't like having shitty streets and a lack of power? That's State. You don't like companies fucking you over? That's State. Regulations fucking you over? That's also mostly State.

Trump has realistically only 3 options when it comes to the money saved from cuts. First is, of course, using it for the debt, which isn't...realistic, really. The debt is such a long term issue that frankly we have other and better means of dealing with. The second is shell gaming the money to other portions of government, which is the same shit he's stopping and would go down horribly with his base. The third, and in my purview the healthiest, is giving the money back to the People. It was illicitly taken and spent in the first place, and actual non-commie economists would agree that bottom-up spending helps the economy since the vast majority of people will exercise better spending habits than any government or organization, provided you don't just print more money to do it for the lols ala-Biden or close the economy it's meant to kickstart ala-Covid.
 
I respect the sentiment, but I have to disagree with this. There have already been gargantuan budget cuts under Trump as it is that sending these checks won't be as devastating as the democrats want to fearmonger about. The American people have been cheated BIG TIME. If Trump were to just say "aw shucks, you dumb fucks got cheated out of trillions of your hard earned dollars and you get NOTHING in return for it, I guess your gonna have to get back to work to make more money, retard. Better hope no one steals that money as well you dumb fucks!! USA USA USA!!!" that would be a gigantic blow to US morale if you ask me. Getting $5000 doesn't make up for all the money we've had stolen from us by our own government but it is a nice gesture to alleviate the blow while helping us all get on track to move forward and regain trust with our government. It's the fucking least the administration could do as a "sorry that you were lied to (and are still being lied to) about what has happened to your money, here's this check as a token of our desire to regain your trust." Your argument that we will all have $5000 in our pockets in time if we don't get the checks works the same way in that the government will make the money back in no time thanks to the massive cuts in spending Trump has implemented.
5000$ would clear up a major debt settlement for me, improve my credit score and give me savings and there are plenty of people who probably have that kind of situation. Hell, Shaniqua will probably spend it on a trip to Miami and blow it on fajitas and I don't care because that's money in the economy instead of dick cutting in Africa.
 
Went back to see if this was shared and didn't see it so here's a fun potential happening.

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And article covering it here

DOGE Finds $2 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Earmarked for Stacey Abrams-Linked Group​

EPA chief Lee Zeldin says revelation 'extremely concerning'​


Thomas Catenacci
February 19, 2025

DOGE discovered $2 billion in taxpayer funds set aside for a fledgling nonprofit linked to perennial Georgia Democratic candidate Stacey Abrams.

The Environmental Protection Agency under the Biden administration awarded Power Forward Communities the grant in April 2024 as part of the agency's Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund program. Power Forward Communities received the green energy grant despite the fact that it was founded months earlier in late 2023 and never managed anywhere near the grant's dollar figure—it reported just $100 in total revenue during its first three months in operation, according to its latest tax filings.

Power Forward Communities' grant was one of just eight Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund grants that the EPA doled out in April 2024 and that, altogether, totaled $20 billion. EPA administrator Lee Zeldin announced on Feb. 13 that his staff and Department of Government Efficiency officials discovered that the Biden administration parked that same $20 billion at an outside financial institution before leaving office, limiting the federal government's oversight of the program.

The revelation that Power Forward Communities is among the beneficiaries of the funds Zeldin's team located raises ethics questions about how the Biden administration selected recipients of such massive grants and whether it played favorites when doling those grants out. Abrams was a vocal proponent of the Biden administration's green energy agenda and campaigned for former vice president Kamala Harris.

It also appears to validate concerns expressed for years by Republicans that Biden administration allies would prop up organizations that were specifically designed to receive federal funding under programs like the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, which was created to operate as a "green bank" by Democrats' behemoth Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.

"I made a commitment to members of Congress and to the American people to be a good steward of tax dollars and I’ve wasted no time in keeping my word," Zeldin told the Washington Free Beacon. "When we learned about the Biden Administration’s scheme to quickly park $20 billion outside the agency, we suspected that some organizations were created out of thin air just to take advantage of this."

"As we continue to learn more about where some of this money went, it is even more apparent how far-reaching and widely accepted this waste and abuse has been," the EPA administrator continued. "It’s extremely concerning that an organization that reported just $100 in revenue in 2023 was chosen to receive $2 billion. That’s 20 million times the organization’s reported revenue."

Power Forward Communities and Abrams did not respond to requests for comment.

Power Forward Communities was established in October 2023 as a coalition of groups led by Rewiring America, a left-wing group that advocates for electrification policies and a transition away from fossil fuel dependence. Abrams, who serves as Rewiring America's senior counsel, said at the time that she was "thrilled" to be part of the Power Forward Communities coalition. "This is how we expand access to clean energy—by prioritizing housing, equity and resilience," she wrote in an X post.

According to its website, Power Forward Communities is the first nationwide program to finance home energy efficiency upgrades at scale. The group states that its mission is to assist homeowners, developers, and renters with home upgrades replacing gas-powered appliances like a traditional stovetop with electric appliances like an induction stovetop.

In its only press release to date, Power Forward Communities said that, in addition to induction stoves, it would use the $2 billion received from the EPA to help install heat pumps, heat pump water heaters, solar panels, home battery systems, EV chargers, and weatherization upgrades.

"For an organization that has no experience in this, that was literally just established, and had $100 in the bank to receive a $2 billion grant—it doesn't just fly in the face of common sense, it's out and out fraud," Daniel Turner, the executive director of energy advocacy group Power the Future, alleged in an interview with the Free Beacon.

Power Forward Communities lists a large number of partners on its website that it works with to implement its mission. Among its partners are the Southern Economic Advancement Project and Fair Count, two left-wing nonprofits founded by Abrams in the wake of her 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election defeat.

The Southern Economic Advancement Project, which seeks to boost racial equity and "economic power" in the South, is a fiscally sponsored project of the Tides Center, a group known for giving millions of dollars to left-wing environmental and social activist organizations, according to Influence Watch.

Power Forward Communities' list of partners also includes the American Federation of Teachers and the AFL-CIO, two powerful Democratic-aligned labor unions.

American Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten and Abrams both serve on the national advisory board for Climate Power, which helped launch a $55 million advertising campaign in September in support of Kamala Harris's presidential campaign.

"President Trump was elected with a mandate from the American people to stop the fraud and abuse by leaders who irresponsibly shoveled boat loads of cash to far-left, activist groups in the name of environmental justice and climate equity, instead of serving the American people," Zeldin said. "Those days are over."

Shortly before leaving office, Biden's EPA parked the $20 billion located by Zeldin's team and DOGE officials in an account at Citibank. While the eight recipients of the funding—which, in addition to Power Forward Communities, includes groups like Climate United Fund, the Coalition for Green Capital, Inclusiv, and Justice Climate Fund—have only tapped into a small slice of the funding so far, the arrangement restricts the Trump administration's ability to claw the funds back, though Zeldin has made retrieving the funds a priority.
 
What happened is NASA realized that human spaceflight missions are not worth it. They are stupid expensive, they risk human lives like no other, they lose funding when an astronaut dies, and the value of those human spaceflight missions are minimal. Unmanned missions are cheaper, safer, you do not have to deal with the disastrous effects of zero gravity on the human body, and we get better data from them.

We cannot fly a human to Pluto. We can fly a probe, get a cute ass picture of Pluto with a natural heart formation on it, and put that on a tumbler. Until we figure out how to get and keep humans in space long-term, unmanned probes and observational projects (like James Webb) will be king. The James Webb telescope has been an extraordinary success and anyone who cares about astronomy is hopping excited about it. Furthermore, because of major biological limitations (humans absolutely need gravity for our bodies to function correctly), we're basically stuck on Earth until we figure out artificial gravity.
NASA proved that we can change the orbit of asteroids with minimal effort by using unmanned probes. We also landed on an asteroid and got some bitching pictures. What are you talking about, dude?
Those pictures aren't worth jack shit though. Likes on Instagram and Tumblr doesn't help anyone and the ant's pace to progress is a net negative overall. It's the definition of stagnation. You talk about how NASA has proven that we can redirect an asteroid "with minimal effort" (you can't be serious right?) but you're not considering how inefficient this process truly was. It took them 6 years to even plan the shit out and then it took a whole year to even get the spacecraft to the asteroid after it launched. NASA saying "We redirected an asteroid!" is also very sensationalized compared to how little impact the spacecraft actually made on the asteroid. It barely even moved after the collision, the little gay graph on the Wikipedo article you linked even showed that (by the way, never link Wikipedo as "proof" of anything, never unironically share any source to back your claims that you know for a fact lies to fit their own political narrative unless you're making fun of how retarded the link you're posting is) and even stated in the article that the difference is only a slight change in trajectory and that they aren't even 100% sure how much it really worked. Better hope there is ZERO error on those data calculations if we actually needed to rely on this shit, the smallest error could fuck us and NASA has a reputation for not dotting their Is and crossing their Ts. I haven't even mentioned how sloppy and wasteful this was in the first place, the 30 million dollar spacecraft is destroyed never to be recovered. gone forever. This is one of SpaceX's biggest criticisms of NASA, the fact that they are so wasteful on purpose and never even attempt to salvage anything or plan ahead enough to integrate some way to get some of your money and hardware back. NASA has even lost most of their designs and blueprints anyway, another thing that astounds SpaceX, they have no clue how they lost so much knowlege that they previously had decades before. They had plenty of time with this shit, six years they prepped this project, probably over 6 years of designing. So I don't buy your theory that NASA is lazy because they are actually really frugal. They are the opposite of frugal, they flat out don't give a fuck.

Sending manned teams to the moon or to Mars is hands on human experience which is priceless and extremely important to the future. That can't be replicated by looking at fucking pictures on Facebook and Tumblr and the fact that you would even suggest such a thing is astounding to me. We might learn a new little thing or two every hundred years by sending retarded NASA bots to planets but that's just play pin goofing off in the grand scheme of what the end goals of space exploration is. We've been sitting on our asses for so long putting off thinking about space that by the time it's gonna be crunch time and we NEED to get into space, it's gonna be way too late because we've only ever sent bots to space and the last time a human went to the moon Stanley Kubrick was still alive. Yeah, sending people to the space is risky, no shit. That's why it's worth doing. I could list hundreds of human achievements of progress that were only accomplished through people risking their lives. That's just how it is.
 
Hi, I would love $5000 but this is a bad idea. We should be aiming to reduce the national debt so that we can, in the long term, sustain our country without a mountain of interest staring us in the face, while also lowering individual taxes.

Blowing billions on a “we’re sorry” isn’t the way to do it. Put it into infrastructure, the economy, etc. and let the $5000 end up in my pocket over the long term.
Add another 0 or two and I'd be cool with it, but at this point I'm with the others that a $5000 transfer will just be going back to the bankers and credit card companies.

I don’t need 5k in Trumpbux. If there is a surplus after he’s done gutting the government, I would argue that it should be invested back into the country in ways that will benefit us for generations to come.
I would like them to buy back land from foreigners and then ban them from ever buying our land again. We can turn said land into national parks, even. I don't give a fuck, I just want us to have it and them not to have it. There's no reason the Saudis should be taking our water for their damn camels' alfalfa.

Europe needs to man up and pay for their own defense. I’ve heard the general consensus across American party lines (at least privately) is that Russia isn’t a threat to the US anymore, I think that’s in part because of the Ukrainian war. I’m open to being friendlier to Russia idk if they’re open to it because their boomers still hate us with a passion of a 1000 burning suns. But hey all the boomers are on the way out so perhaps when they’re gone they’ll be more amenable.

Trump should give the NATO countries an ultimatum. Either deport your muzzies en masse or we’re out of NATO. If they refuse that they deserve to be curbstomped by Russia.
If there's one thing I've been sick of since I was a literal child, it's the whole "Myeh myeh myeh Americans are warmongers, Americans suck, why are you so stupid and dumb and violent? Why can't you be like we are?"-thing when WE'RE THE ONES SUBSIDIZING THEM. All their nice things? They can afford that shit because we're the dumbass tax-cattle getting milked to pay for shit they don't have to pay for, and then the world turns around and spits on us, saying we're all rich, spoiled, and stealing resources from the third world or whatever.
I even got in a fight as a child with another kid who was saying things like "You guys don't need to defend us! No one asked you!" and I was like "I don't want to either! This is dumb!" and they were all "You're dumb!" (because we were children).
 
Let's use sodas vs juice just as a generic example. You can still buy soda, but if you buy juice, it cost y
Might be late, but a previous poster, hundreds of pages ago, said something about some states are already instituting this exact thing for EBT where buying certain fresh groceries only costs you half as much on your food stamps. It is a common sense idea and I think would improve EBT nutrition if adopted nationwide.
 
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