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Should be a wild four years.

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Sure would be nice if those of us not leaning on public assistance could enjoy that hefty discount too. Then again not being lazy has never paid very well in this country (in my lifetime anyway).
I agree, but how exactly would you allow for normal people to pay half price for fresh ingredients without fraud, or without the food companies raising prices, over time, so that we are essentially paying the same as before?

Imagine a resturaunt sends the bus boy to buy expensive ingredients at the grocery store, at half price, rather than through a wholesale company. They save a few dollars and defraud the government thousands.
 
Sure would be nice if those of us not leaning on public assistance could enjoy that hefty discount too. Then again not being lazy has never paid very well in this country (in my lifetime anyway).
I think we can all reach a consensus that subsidizing fresh produce is far preferable to subsidizing corn syrup and feeding the Chinese soy beans.
 
Those pictures aren't worth jack shit though. Likes on Instagram and Tumblr doesn't help anyone and the ant's pace to progress is a net negative overall. It's the definition of stagnation. You talk about how NASA has proven that we can redirect an asteroid "with minimal effort" (you can't be serious right?) but you're not considering how inefficient this process truly was. It took them 6 years to even plan the shit out and then it took a whole year to even get the spacecraft to the asteroid after it launched. NASA saying "We redirected an asteroid!" is also very sensationalized compared to how little impact the spacecraft actually made on the asteroid. It barely even moved after the collision, the little gay graph on the Wikipedo article you linked even showed that (by the way, never link Wikipedo as "proof" of anything, never unironically share any source to back your claims that you know for a fact lies to fit their own political narrative unless you're making fun of how retarded the link you're posting is) and even stated in the article that the difference is only a slight change in trajectory and that they aren't even 100% sure how much it really worked. Better hope there is ZERO error on those data calculations if we actually needed to rely on this shit, the smallest error could fuck us and NASA has a reputation for not dotting their Is and crossing their Ts. I haven't even mentioned how sloppy and wasteful this was in the first place, the 30 million dollar spacecraft is destroyed never to be recovered. gone forever. This is one of SpaceX's biggest criticisms of NASA, the fact that they are so wasteful on purpose and never even attempt to salvage anything or plan ahead enough to integrate some way to get some of your money and hardware back. NASA has even lost most of their designs and blueprints anyway, another thing that astounds SpaceX, they have no clue how they lost so much knowlege that they previously had decades before. They had plenty of time with this shit, six years they prepped this project, probably over 6 years of designing. So I don't buy your theory that NASA is lazy because they are actually really frugal. They are the opposite of frugal, they flat out don't give a fuck.

Sending manned teams to the moon or to Mars is hands on human experience which is priceless and extremely important to the future. That can't be replicated by looking at fucking pictures on Facebook and Tumblr and the fact that you would even suggest such a thing is astounding to me. We might learn a new little thing or two every hundred years by sending retarded NASA bots to planets but that's just play pin goofing off in the grand scheme of what the end goals of space exploration is. We've been sitting on our asses for so long putting off thinking about space that by the time it's gonna be crunch time and we NEED to get into space, it's gonna be way too late because we've only ever sent bots to space and the last time a human went to the moon Stanley Kubrick was still alive. Yeah, sending people to the space is risky, no shit. That's why it's worth doing. I could list hundreds of human achievements of progress that were only accomplished through people risking their lives. That's just how it is.
Found the ESA shill. You'll lose your paycheck soon enough, you commie bastard!
 
Sure would be nice if those of us not leaning on public assistance could enjoy that hefty discount too. Then again not being lazy has never paid very well in this country (in my lifetime anyway).
For what it's worth, it's not that they get a flat discount it's that money from things like USDA and state grants are "matching" what's provided by SNAP.
If it were a flat discount, it would hurt the local farmers they're buying from.
Instead it's almost like a state subsidy to support local farmers and producers by funneling people on SNAP towards them.
The discount you get is it should help make people on food stamps healthier which means less burden on the national health system.
The other route would be flat banning things like junk food, while this is more carrot over stick by incentivizing buying whole local food over buying something else.
 
Do any of you idiots know what a stick and carrot actually is? You put the carrot on a stick like bait on a fishing rod, it isn't you fucking beating someone with it.
I believe carrot and stick refers to reward (carrot) and stick (punishment). Meaning you can do what I want and get a treat, or I will beat you with a stick.
 
People saying the $5000 for every taxpayer should go to the debt is missing the point, it makes the money real

You can tell people "We saved $5000 worth for every taxpayer" but if the money doesn't hit your account, do you give a shit? Especially if it gets reinvested in the debt, so for the individual, everything goes on the same as if $0 were saved?
Can somebody cite the source of where Trump or Elon said $5000 would come back to the taxpayer? I don't want to be THAT guy and misunderstand or hold somebody to something they didn't even say.
 
Elon Musk helping the Don out.

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One of the weirdest parts of the exposing of USAID and the shadow networks of NGOs spreading chaos on the American dime is the revelation that Gonzalo Lira was entirely correct when he called a room of Ukrainian journalists "system pigs" for being paid to spread propaganda.

Maybe he really was killed by Ukraine (or they intentionally let him die, more likely).
 
Hi, I would love $5000 but this is a bad idea. We should be aiming to reduce the national debt so that we can, in the long term, sustain our country without a mountain of interest staring us in the face, while also lowering individual taxes.

Blowing billions on a “we’re sorry” isn’t the way to do it. Put it into infrastructure, the economy, etc. and let the $5000 end up in my pocket over the long term.
Could I have your $5K then? I could buy a lot of old movies, maybe even set up a home theatre with lots of pin-ups.
 
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