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Should be a wild four years.

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Dafuqisdis? said:
The problem with moving so fast is that now they're throwing out ideas that sometimes contradict their previous stated goals.

5 thousand to every voter would blow a hole in the deficit that is as big as the one they're trying to close. 500 would be very doable and could be thought of as a "tariff dividend".
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The actual tax burden is over $100,000 per person
 
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SpergioLeonne said:
I think we should’ve been doing that since 1991
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We were. The entire western world went out of its way to normalise relations with Russia all through the 90s and early 2000s, with the intent of increasing economic integration and cooperation, in order to help bring Russia up out of the doldrums created by the collapse of the soviet union. The US sought a full trade relationship with Russia and wanted to increase military and trade coordination. European leaders assumed Russia would want to trade on fair terms for mutual benefit and pursued a policy of wide economic integration.

Russia, under Putin, used that growing economic integration as a tool to divide Europe against itself, subtly or not-so-subtly using its stranglehold on European gas and oil supplies to manipulate EU governments. Particularly germany. In this way it neutered any possibility of a coherent response to his invasions of Georgia and Chechnya, and in the process reverted to its cold war isolationism and belligerence toward the west. Trump himself warned the leaders of Europe about a repeat this same thing in the run-up to the Ukraine invasion, but they were still caught up in the belief that trade would eventually bring Russia back to the table.

This idea that Russia has been unjustly isolated since the 90s is bunk; Russia put itself in this position.
 
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Dafuqisdis? said:
The problem with moving so fast is that now they're throwing out ideas that sometimes contradict their previous stated goals.

5 thousand to every voter would blow a hole in the deficit that is as big as the one they're trying to close. 500 would be very doable and could be thought of as a "tariff dividend".
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No, it wouldn't. This isn't the same as a stimulus check where the money is printed out of thin air; it's already in circulation. It's also not every voter; it's every taxpayer of which there are less than 150m (much less, considering these are just people that filed taxes last year - I would guess just shy of a hundred million people is the accurate number of people that actually paid taxes).
 
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teriyakiburns said:
We were. The entire western world went out of its way to normalise relations with Russia all through the 90s and early 2000s, with the intent of increasing economic integration and cooperation, in order to help bring Russia up out of the doldrums created by the collapse of the soviet union. The US sought a full trade relationship with Russia and wanted to increase military and trade coordination. European leaders assumed Russia would want to trade on fair terms for mutual benefit and pursued a policy of wide economic integration.

Russia, under Putin, used that growing economic integration as a tool to divide Europe against itself, subtly or not-so-subtly using its stranglehold on European gas and oil supplies to manipulate EU governments. Particularly germany. In this way it neutered any possibility of a coherent response to his invasions of Georgia and Chechnya, and in the process reverted to its cold war isolationism and belligerence toward the west. Trump himself warned the leaders of Europe about a repeat this same thing in the run-up to the Ukraine invasion, but they were still caught up in the belief that trade would eventually bring Russia back to the table.

This idea that Russia has been unjustly isolated since the 90s is bunk; Russia put itself in this position.
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As soon as the iron curtain came down, we sent in venture capitalists to buy entire factories at fire sale prices. Russia thought we were investing in them. We shipped the machinery to China and closed the plants to tell them to fuck themselves

Edit: click disagree all you want, I was alive at the time and remember my dad talking about it as it was happening.

I saw the Berlin Wall come down, and just a few years later I saw us piss on it
 
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Former Vikings punter Chris Kluwe was arrested at a City Council Meeting in Huntington Beach, CA. He came to protest against a MAGA sign and called MAGA a “Nazi movement.“ He then called for “civil disobedience” before walking up to the council members where he was arrested.

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Wow, another ghost of Gamergate past here. He looks like shit. It's remarkable how many of these people have aged like milk.
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Libs are dancing at the Kennedy Center to protest the Trump takeover.

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Just completely broken and the first I heard of any Kennedy Center protesting. Too bad the Democrats are too busy fighting for their right to launder money through color revolutions to give a shit about Trump upending the Kennedy Center. This is, like, the 23rd thing they are having to be concerned about at the moment.
 
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Soycast Guy said:
Anyone could use their $5000 on anything they want. After all, it’s their money that was stolen by the government that’s just being given back to them. Now someone could use it to buy stupid shit or useful shit, it’s really just up to them.
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I wasn't judging, I was just asking.

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ALL IN ON $TRUMP COIN
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Except him. That's a waste.
 
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The Last Stand said:
Except him. That's a waste.
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I would bet you my kiwi account that $TRUMP will reach $70 again at some point during the next 3 years. Every meme coin that goes on a crazy tear when it launches always has at least a 50-60% correction but the ones with good "fundamentals" (whatever the fuck that's worth for a memecoin) that stick around have a good chance of reclaiming ATH. Virtually guaranteed that people who hold the coin will eventually at least be able to breakeven, it's just how crypto meme coins work.*

*unless the entire economy crashes
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Don't also forget the Butterfly War, wherein a voice actor for fucking Soul Caliber 3 discovered he could trick Google into committing federal civil rights violations on a whim.
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Other than I'm a retard, why haven't I heard of Patrick Ryan? Search for his name doesn't bring him up (doesn't help there's a politician with his name), adding "voice actor" gets him, but only generic IMDb type sites that don't say shit about this stuff. Is he overhyping his influence? He claims to have basically astroturfed gamergate. Does he actually have the secret sauce to corrode the illusions on which social media rests, such that people consider him an infohazard? Like fuck Alex Jones, this shit is literal Info Wars.
 
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Verdun_Salient said:
Do any of you idiots know what a stick and carrot actually is? You put the carrot on a stick like bait on a fishing rod, it isn't you fucking beating someone with it.

This is a carrot on a stick, not that stupid butchering of the statement Obama did
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While this might be the origin of the phrase, the corruption into 'you get the carrot, or you get the stick' has been around for a looooong while. After all, even when it doesn't mean literal beating with the stick, the stick is what's keeping the carrot away.
 
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Interesting thing I saw in Financial Times February 18th print edition that I haven't seen talked about anywhere. The interesting part is this graph:
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Something like 70% of the top Uranium mining countries are Russia-China aligned. The article took great pains to complain about Niger no longer selling to the West, and Kazakhstan doing uranium business pretty much solely with Russia and China (2/3rd is sold to Russia and China, and only 28% to US, Canada, France, and UK).
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That's not really good for US, and makes keeping Canada as a friend (or annexing it) a vital security interest.

Something also interesting I've noted, though less so (and on a different topic) is this:
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Over 1% of US corporations are not able to pay off their debts on time, highest it's been since 2017, and borrowing is dropping too.
 
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