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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Labour MP (currently suspended for unrelated reasons) posts 1930s Germany style propaganda on Twitter, issues a call to arms and starts attacking fellow MPs for protected characteristics.


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"A born and bred Brummie" - this is comedy gold. A rat can be born in a stable, doesn't make it a horse.
The fact that she is the current chair of the Socialist Campaign Group should immediately disqualify her from any reasonable debate. The treasurer of this merry little band ? John McDonnell, one of the most nefarious men of modern times.
As much as I read her rambllings and take them for the joke that they are ( is it a plea to Starmer to be let back into the Party ? She seems to love labelling centre right policies as Far Right almost as much as he does ! ) I do find them mildly antagonistic. Perhaps that is her intention. It's a dangerous game she's playing though, she only needs the wrong person to read it and she could be the next Jo Cox.
 
These people learned nothing whatsoever about how and why Trump got elected. Posts like this embolden Farage but also ups his international stock and voters tend to back candidates with a global approval rating and reach. Starmer is of course an anomaly due to a machine emboldened to oust the conservatives. Labour knows they are done if they fall as the post-Tony Blair drought of MPs is in full effect.

Trump knows the only powers in Europe are the UK and Germany hence Vance's speech being directed at them and ignoring the others. Starmer is in a position where he has to submit now, he does not have the political stock to go ahead or the financial stock. He has no unity with the other leaders as the German leader said he was "unhelpful". The truth is Germany wants out of funding Ukraine and Macron wants out too as both have elections where they are at an extreme,e disadvantage. Starmer wants to continue but cannot find the allies and herein is why Trump knows how to play and humiliate Starmer.

Trump's tactics regarding political isolation are masterful and like Truman one of his inspirations plays a blinder. Brandishing Reform as far-right is hilarious because it shows desperation but poor intelligence, calling people Nazis (that is what they are trying to do). I truly believe the left has gone insane now.
 
While I understand the sentiment about leaving I cannot for one agree with it. This is our home, we shouldn't abandon it. My people have been here since before the bloody Romans showed up, I can't just leave because its getting tough. It will get worse before it gets better but it will get better. We just have to hold on until then.
Then stay and suffer, as there's nothing to hold onto other than land. Land which has been taken from us by barbarians waved in through the gates by a government that hates us. Once the fighting starts, i'll come back. Until then, I'll be chilling in my holiday home.


I don't see the avenue for that as it stands at the moment with any of the main parties
Lend me your optimism, because Hamza Yusef was a Muslim.
 
Lend me your optimism, because Hamza Yusef was a Muslim.
And less we forget, he wasn't ousted because of the torrent of hate crimes he came out of with on a near daily basis.

No. He got ousted because he pissed off the other left wing party in the Scottish Parliament the SNP had made their bed with.

Nothing to do with the public whatsoever who would have kept supporting him because he would have kept up the standard woke dogmas of migrant tranny worship the Scottish seem to love far more than the rest of the union (I suspect because they have far fewer of them).
 
Lend me your optimism, because Hamza Yusef was a Muslim.
Similar to Sunak - wasn't actually elected by the Scottish people. He was put in place internally by the party after Sturgeon resigned, and headed a minority government. Nobody in Scotland ever voted for him either directly via Scottish parliamentary election (2021 was the last one, next one in 2026) or indirectly via the UK general election since he was out of office before the general election. He was out in April of 2024 and the election was held in July the same year.
 
Similar to Sunak - wasn't actually elected by the Scottish people. He was put in place internally by the party after Sturgeon resigned, and headed a minority government. Nobody in Scotland ever voted for him either directly via Scottish parliamentary election (2021 was the last one, next one in 2026) or indirectly via the UK general election since he was out of office before the general election. He was out in April of 2024 and the election was held in July the same year.
I think we're in a bit of an agreement; A muslim will be PM, the only way to do that is to switcheroo. Two-tier queer farmer harmer starmer will step aside to allow a muslim party member to take the party.

The next election will be between a paki and a wog. Maybe Johnny Rotten was right.
 
And less we forget, he wasn't ousted because of the torrent of hate crimes he came out of with on a near daily basis.

No. He got ousted because he pissed off the other left wing party in the Scottish Parliament the SNP had made their bed with.

Nothing to do with the public whatsoever who would have kept supporting him because he would have kept up the standard woke dogmas of migrant tranny worship the Scottish seem to love far more than the rest of the union (I suspect because they have far fewer of them).
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If the people were to get a chance and vote for him, I don't think it would have went well. He was first minister in March, this survey comes from June. Learn from our experiences as Englishman. There's a ton of apathy and hatred towards the leadership, and the parties often do things completely contradictory to what the people want. I think SNP have the Labour problem from the older generation, where outdated stereotypes and marketing essentially override the actions and words of the party itself. People still think Labour are the party for workers and the poor, Conservatives are for the rich and prioritise cutting spending, both of which are no longer true today. People who vote blindly in Scotland are likely under the assumption that the Scottish nationalist Party is actually nationalist.

I think we're in a bit of an agreement; A muslim will be PM, the only way to do that is to switcheroo. Two-tier queer farmer harmer starmer will step aside to allow a muslim party member to take the party.

The next election will be between a paki and a wog. Maybe Johnny Rotten was right.
I think you're speaking in jest, but I'll try to assuage worries regardless.

The PM candidate for the party usually comes from the cabinet of the previous PM. Brown was in Blair's cabinet, May was in Cameron's cabinet, Boris was in May's, Sunak in Boris'. They were also in rather lofty positions, like foreign secretary, councillor of the exchequer. Following this precedent, for non-whites in Kier's cabinet, you have Ed Miliband (Jew), David Lammy (Black), and Shabana Mahmood (Muslim). For her to run, Kier would need to step down, and forgetting her relatively minor position in Kier's cabinet, Shabana puts her name forward, and she wins by a miracle. However, she has a lot against her and there'd be no tactical reason to make her Labour's candidate. Her being a Muslim might attract the Muslim vote, but her being a woman would pretty much nullify that advantage, as I doubt the Imams and male Muslim population will abide by a woman being in charge regardless of her faith. She's also pretty much a nothing burger politically. I wasn't even aware of her until I looked up Kier's cabinet. Also, Labour's base (based on stereotypes) is white working class and olds, so a Muslim woman would be anathema to a demographic which by and large want less immigrants and would think it's a conflict of interest for a brown to want less browns (We've already seen Badenoch flip flop on immigration so it's not like it's without precedent).

We're gonna be just fine.
 
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If not, I'll pick up on it in a bit when I get home.

We're now at a point where defence council will legitimately argue that shitskin men from Muslim shit holes shouldn't be sent to jail because their "human rights" are more important than anything else.
 
If not, I'll pick up on it in a bit when I get home.
You've linked to the Mail home page, there's dozens of different stories there. Here's a few "best of" when I clicked.

Asylum seeker declared a child by UK judges... despite being 23 with a receding hairline and thick facial hair​

(no photos of him I'm afraid)

Fear and loathing in our increasingly violent 'caravan city': Van dwellers arm themselves with axes and baseball bats as tensions flare with locals after 'arson' attack on motorhome​

Jailing an asylum seeker, 39, who sexually assaulted a teenager after driving around looking for vulnerable drunk women could breach his human rights, court hears​

Moment murderer casually walks his dog moments after stabbing 19-year-old mother to death in front of commuters at a train station - before his hound tries to maul police​

(the mauling police might be an exaggeration, didn't watch the video)
 
You've linked to the Mail home page, there's dozens of different stories there. Here's a few "best of" when I clicked.

Asylum seeker declared a child by UK judges... despite being 23 with a receding hairline and thick facial hair​

(no photos of him I'm afraid)

Fear and loathing in our increasingly violent 'caravan city': Van dwellers arm themselves with axes and baseball bats as tensions flare with locals after 'arson' attack on motorhome​

Jailing an asylum seeker, 39, who sexually assaulted a teenager after driving around looking for vulnerable drunk women could breach his human rights, court hears​

Moment murderer casually walks his dog moments after stabbing 19-year-old mother to death in front of commuters at a train station - before his hound tries to maul police​

(the mauling police might be an exaggeration, didn't watch the video)
Oh gosh I am so sorry, thanks for letting me know. It was the one about an asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a teenager, and whose defence counsel are arguiing it would be bad for his MENTALLLZZZ to send him to jail.

That said, the van dweller one is a laugh. Moreso as it's in Bristol, which in my experience one of those cities that likes to think of itself as "tolerant". i suppose tolerance wears thin when it's actual real life poors, on your doorstep, having the audacity to empty their chemical toilets in your parks, and all. Funny how these people rave about how tolerant they are and make they're all so welcome but that rubs off when they see what they were expecting other people to put up with.
 
Oh gosh I am so sorry, thanks for letting me know. It was the one about an asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a teenager, and whose defence counsel are arguiing it would be bad for his MENTALLLZZZ to send him to jail.
No worries, easily happens. I guessed it might be that one. The annoying part is to a degree it's foreshadowing what will happen when the ECHR get hold of it and go "noooo, you're violating this man's right to go out and be a degenerate fuckhead." I'll post that one in full.
Jailing a 'very dangerous' asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a teenager after driving around looking for vulnerable drunk women could breach his human rights, a court has heard.
Hassan Abou Hayleh attacked the 19-year-old girl when he found her sitting alone on a kerb as she waited for her father to give her a lift home.
The married Syrian immigrant, 39, molested her in the street and then tried to bundle her into his car but members of the public stepped in and stopped him.
He was convicted of sexual assault following a trial last November. But his sentencing hearing at Bournemouth Crown Court on Monday was adjourned when his defence barrister argued it could breach his human rights.
Graham Gilbert claimed Hayleh was suffering from PTSD having been tortured in a Syrian jail under the country's former president Bashar al-Assad's regime.
The lawyer said jail would make the defendant's condition worse.
He told the judge: 'The doctor's report only came in on Saturday and it expressed concerns about Mr Hayleh's PTSD.
'He has several symptoms of PTSD which would be made worse by a custodial sentence. It would also be made worse without the support of his wife and friends.

'The court must work out whether a custodial sentence would breach Article Three and be inhumane and degrading for him to be imprisoned.'
Judge Robert Pawson adjourned sentencing for further assessment of Hayleh.
He said: 'A lot of prisoners' mental health gets worse during a custodial sentence.

'However we are going to take the upmost care and caution due to Mr Hayleh's PTSD due to his time suffering torture in a Syrian prison under the Assad regime.
'Placing him in prison would provide echoes of that experience.'
Article Three of the European Convention of Human Rights prohibits torture, inhumane treatment and degrading punishment to a person.
It will be up to the judge to interpret and apply UK criminal law in a way that is compatible with the Human Rights Act 1998.
Hayleh, who needed an Arabic interpreter in court, was released on conditional bail until his next appearance in April.
The Syrian arrived in the UK in 2020 and had been living in Weymouth, Dorset.
During the early hours of December 18, 2022, he drove into the town centre looking for vulnerable women to target.
At 3.25am he spotted his victim who had just left a nightclub and had called her dad to pick her up.

CCTV captured Hayleh stop his car and approach the young woman before helping her up from the ground.
He then placed his hands down her tousers and inside her underwear before asking her to get inside his car.
The victim refused and instead shouted for help at three people who were walking nearby, telling them that Hayleh had touched her.
Her father arrived on the scene just as Hayleh drove off.
The defendant told the court he saw his daughter with the three strangers, distraught and crying.
Hayleh told police it was all a misunderstanding. He said he saw the victim lying by the side of the road and he stopped to help her.
He said she hugged him and he noticed that her trousers were down, exposing part of her bottom, so he reached down and pulled them up.
But a jury found him guilty after a trial at Bournemouth Crown Court.
Judge Pawson told him at a previous hearing: 'You were driving around in the early hours on a Sunday morning hoping that you would find exactly what you did find - a young and vulnerable drunk woman who you wanted to get into your car so that you could sexually abuse her.
'I shudder to think what might have happened.'

That said, the van dweller one is a laugh. Moreso as it's in Bristol, which in my experience one of those cities that likes to think of itself as "tolerant". i suppose tolerance wears thin when it's actual real life poors, on your doorstep, having the audacity to empty their chemical toilets in your parks, and all. Funny how these people rave about how tolerant they are and make they're all so welcome but that rubs off when they see what they were expecting other people to put up with.
It's an interesting one, as many of them seem to be new to the van lifestyle rather than part of the existing gypsy hordes. I have noticed a certain tendency with some younger people starting to enter the roving van lifestyle as things get worse, I suspect they all assume that the bias against gypsies is just because people are racist and they'll never have to put up with it. Not because the average human views people living out of vehicles as slightly more evolved homeless and, as you say, get kind of irked when you treat their front doorstep as your recycling bin.
 
No worries, easily happens. I guessed it might be that one. The annoying part is to a degree it's foreshadowing what will happen when the ECHR get hold of it and go "noooo, you're violating this man's right to go out and be a degenerate fuckhead."
It's really quite something, isn't it? And yet, because it's called "the court of human rights" and "the human rights act", people reflexively defend it against any criticism.
 

Brit who axed pensioner to death claims he was 'tied up and raped by OAP'

Garo Jlitakryan
has claimed he asked the pensioner for a phone charger and was offered 'sexual favours' in return - but he found himself tied up just hours later

A British cyclist who axed a pensioner to death claims he was tied up and “raped” by the 75-year-old. Garo Jlitakryan, 32, has admitted to attacking the man with an axe more than six times and could face 10 years in prison.

The grim scenario happened in July in Finland where Garo was taking part in a charity bike ride for Help for Heroes. While there, he found work doing gardening at the man's flat, and told a court this week how they met at a spa in the city and went to his place the next day.

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Armenian name, possibly Turkish background, commits murder in Finland. "British". Doing the murders natives refuse to carry out.
 
A British cyclist who axed a pensioner to death claims he was tied up and “raped” by the 75-year-old. Garo Jlitakryan, 32, has admitted to attacking the man with an axe more than six times and could face 10 years in prison.
"Yeah he said I had to suck his dick for the USB-C charger."
 
It's really quite something, isn't it? And yet, because it's called "the court of human rights" and "the human rights act", people reflexively defend it against any criticism.
If you ever want a cozy listen, there are hours of David Starkey bitching about the ECHR and how it contravenes the UK’s laws on YouTube. It’s actually pretty interesting to hear him talk about British common law and constitutionalism.
 
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