There's a ton of Open Source Maintainers that are overworked and abused - Because they're working for the shitty companies that dominate tech. Unfortunately, the measures needed to fix it, which boil down to "Stop letting companies abuse you, faggot", have become socially unacceptable - Because if you have a backbone, you get mistaken for a socialism faggot, then stabbed by socialism faggots for having the wrong kind of backbone and not buying into their "Union" LARP.
I feel like I'm in crazy land here because if you actually read it he contradicts himself several times and actually lays out better reasons for *not* introducing more of another language. Let me summarise:
Rust can fix all this.
Rust can't actually fix all this.
But all these problems go away with rust.
I have very little rust experience.
Our maintainers are overworked.
Mixed language codebases are rough and hard to maintain.
What we have currently is a marvel.
I have the best mechanic ever but if he suddenly started trying to convince me how good EVs are while also saying maybe they're not so good, and also he can't work on them but he'd like to try - while having a garage full of normal cars. I'd think he'd gone fucking senile.
edit; So I was curious and honestly, I just wanted to see some of his commits or just learn something about him (Greg) - the name rings a bell and I like reading about these people - I know it's gay but it can be interesting sometimes.
Anyway, here's the first link I get: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/GregKH-linux-trust.pdf
Pay no attention to the formatting/layout, it appears to be broken for some reason but after skimming a bit I came to this:
Wait, Hellwig - I saw that name like 10 minutes ago - in fact it's the very first reply to Gregs email, where Christoph is openly raising concerns over rust.
So as of now, as a Linux developer or maintainer you must deal with
Rust if you want to or not.
Where Rust code doesn't just mean Rust code - the bindings look
nothing like idiomatic Rust code, they are very different kind of beast
trying to bridge a huge semantic gap. And they aren't doing that in a
few places, because they are showed into every little subsystem and
library right now.
So we'll have these bindings creep everywhere like a cancer and are
very quickly moving from a software project that allows for and strives
for global changes that improve the overall project to increasing
compartmentalization. This turns Linux into a project written in
multiple languages with no clear guidelines what language is to be used
for where.
I bet Greg is a great dude and he probably forgets more about linux and programming before breakfast than I've learned in my lifetime but you can't make this shit up.
Look who else is on this list!
The guy who prompted this gem from Linus over a decade ago:
There's a ton of Open Source Maintainers that are overworked and abused - Because they're working for the shitty companies that dominate tech. Unfortunately, the measures needed to fix it, which boil down to "Stop letting companies abuse you, faggot", have become socially unacceptable - Because if you have a backbone, you get mistaken for a socialism faggot, then stabbed by socialism faggots for having the wrong kind of backbone and not buying into their "Union" LARP.
Oh, it's so much worse than that. If you raise the alarm about abusive companies (or abusive free software hobos) you're not a True Free/Open Source advocate... because apparently free/open means giving corpos and hobos a free lunch, because as it turns out it was about free as in freeloading after all.
Companies definitely suck, but there's a bunch of software that deserves it 100%. Developers can be just as scammy as companies. There's been plenty of open source projects I was using that "changed model" and hid many of their (existing!!) useful feature behind a premium paywall to force regular joes into buying their shit, most of them that I was donating to whenever I could, some I contributed to. If you lock existing popular features behind a paywall to force your users to buy, you're an asshole and deserve the companies stealing your free work. There's also the ones I donated to monthly that have not made any new features in ages but didn't tell people they were no longer developing the project.
For example, FileBot is still technically open source, but now you can only use it via a subscription model. You could code the license check out of the source, but the source isn't exactly easily available and they only offer subscription based pricing, no "buy once own this version forever" even. It's hosted on the developer's site without any sort of indexing, so if you don't know all the file names beforehand you cannot get the full source code. Fun, isn't it?
Gravitee, portainer, and many more do the exact same shit. Did you know that pulling a docker compose file from github is now restricted under the premium portainer license?
Should I get free labor from these people? No, but if you put your software out there under an agreement, then you change that agreement, you should expect people to be pissed. Part of the reason open source software is cool is because we all use each other's software, we don't have to code everything from the ground up anymore. The same way FileBot's developer wants money, I'm betting so does everyone making open source libraries for him to use, but there's a tacit understanding that we help each other.
I don't mind paying for open source software, or even subscriptions necessarily, but bait and switches are so gay the lgbt would call the devs faggots.
Companies definitely suck, but there's a bunch of software that deserves it 100%. Developers can be just as scammy as companies. There's been plenty of open source projects I was using that "changed model" and hid many of their (existing!!) useful feature behind a premium paywall to force regular joes into buying their shit, most of them that I was donating to whenever I could, some I contributed to. If you lock existing popular features behind a paywall to force your users to buy, you're an asshole and deserve the companies stealing your free work. There's also the ones I donated to monthly that have not made any new features in ages but didn't tell people they were no longer developing the project.
Well, that is why I mentioned software hobos too. In particular I was thinking of a certain toejam-eating fat fuck who deliberately gimped GCC into not exporting ASTs because that would make it easier for some people to make proprietary extensions. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. There's no shortage of people, real or fictive, who think they're entitled to your labor (and your money).
Should I get free labor from these people? No, but if you put your software out there under an agreement, then you change that agreement, you should expect people to be pissed. Part of the reason open source software is cool is because we all use each other's software, we don't have to code everything from the ground up anymore. The same way FileBot's developer wants money, I'm betting so does everyone making open source libraries for him to use, but there's a tacit understanding that we help each other.
Well, that was the promise, yes, but in practice what you got is people being tricked into providing free labor for others and then getting rugpulled. You'd think after the umpteenth time it happened that people would stop getting suckered, but here we are.
I don't mind paying for open source software, or even subscriptions necessarily, but bait and switches are so gay the lgbt would call the devs faggots.
I'd be willing to give for free/open source software if the project I was giving to had a development roadmap, complete with a list of achievable milestones we can all measure, ultimately ending with the software being FUCKING DONE. You ever notice that none of these projects are ever done? That's because none of them want them to be done. Instead of having a well-defined architecture people can plug into if they have some cool new feature they think should interoperate with Foo-ware (for whatever value of Foo), they just keep hoovering up features until all software can send email, browse the web, mine bitcoin, and develop a self-aware AI that consumes the earth. As far as I'm concerned none of these faggots should get my money, or anyone's money, until they're willing to admit that they're just as bad as all the "proprietary" software vendors out there. They want an infinite font of money and they're just too chickenshit to say it out loud.
So the Hexbear.net auction has ended in a surprise blowout scandal. Turns out that the auction house for the domain registrar, Sav, forgot to have a transfer lock on the domain and the chapotraphousecels just transferred the domain to another registrar spoiling the auction after the bidding reached $2365 L M A O
I found an explanation earlier in the thread for anyone who doesn't have a clue what this is about (it would maybe be good to explain that in at least very few words in the community happenings post because I was really confused what this is even was and why it was in the open source software thread)
Hexbear ( a leftist forum that's pretty active tbh daily 1k users at least ) has a separate PUBLIC board called "selfcrit" where banned users have to BEG and explain to their janny commissars for why they were banned and how they understand their ban was justified and that they want to BE BETTER and be let back on the forum. https://hexbear.net/c/selfcrit
I found an explanation earlier in the thread for anyone who doesn't have a clue what this is about (it would maybe be good to explain that in at least very few words in the community happenings post because I was really confused what this is even was and why it was in the open source software thread
Are these people just actually retarded? There are actual "digital landlords" who buy up domains just to block them and sell at a profit, but that's not the registrar lmao.
Are these people just actually retarded? There are actual "digital landlords" who buy up domains just to block them and sell at a profit, but that's not the registrar lmao.
Looks like they are using Lemmy for that site which is a "A link aggregator and forum for the fediverse" aka a fedireddit and it's written in Rust by two tankies. @CrunkLord420 Can we haz a kiwi instance?
Looks like they are using Lemmy for that site which is a "A link aggregator and forum for the fediverse" aka a fedireddit and it's written in Rust by two tankies. @CrunkLord420 Can we haz a kiwi instance?
Well if it was, v4 killed it a long time ago. "Hey let's delete all your history and make you share between friends like MySpace," was the stupidest fucking thing.
At the same time, I wonder if it was prophecy. Maybe even back then the core team realized moderation was already getting crazy, enough they wanted to do a hard shift to lower anonymity. They also got rid of the bury button long before most other websites removed that option.
I remember checking it during the first orange man term and it was going super leftie. It's still up, and it's somehow even fucking worse now.
It's pretty amazing how some ancient 00s news site forums are still around. Slashdot is another pillar that is somehow still alive after Dice/Sourceforge/Freshmeat all got sold and/or killed off.
It's pretty amazing how some ancient 00s news site forums are still around. Slashdot is another pillar that is somehow still alive after Dice/Sourceforge/Freshmeat all got sold and/or killed off.
Not really. If you think about it, Slashdot does something that Reddit, et al. do not: It provides a summary of the articles it links to so generally speaking you don't have to click through. This is a double-edged sword, though, in that most people don't want to write those summaries, so the volume posted to Slashdot is much lower than Reddit. Of course, in the glorious AI future, you can have both. Won't that be WONDERFUL?
Last August Digicert had an incident where they had been incorrectly verifying domains for certificates and had to revoke 83267 certificates. The baseline requirements for certificate authorities required that the revocation happens in 24 hours, but it ended up taking around 120 total for some customers for reasons such as being under a temporary restraining order that was filed by a customer. These incidents were discussed publicly on Mozilla's Bugzilla in bugs 1910322 and 1910805
Today, Sectigo's legal council has posted that they received a cease and desist from Digicert's legal councel back in December over statements made by Tim Callan. They posted this publicly and uploaded the letter in bug 1950144 as a part of speaking out against trying to use legal intimidation as part of the postmortem process.
