Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

The funny part of this is that I can almost see the little faggots counting to three with their fingers to coordinate the SALIVA UKULELE cry. They must have cringed so hard filming this.

Propaganda is such a shithow. Remember the Cook turning from warmonger to freedom fighter overnight? How do people just swallow this?
They swallow it because of pilpul's irresistably delicate scent wafts into the nostrils of the goy, the goy brain turns off whatever little processes it had going inside.
 
The only logical end is Russia winning, because duh. The corrupt slavs with more factories, manpower, and military will beat the more corrupt slavs with less.
The only thing I have to say to the other thread is "Duh". As I'm a white man with above 100 iq it's usually easy to understand why people hold certain positions or believe certain things. But for the life of me I can't understand how anyone able to rub two braincells together could have thought this would go any differently. This isn't a movie or video game. The underdog doesn't magically win despite being at a disadvantage in every field that matters in war. Or to use a reference they'd relate to, the stormtroopers would have slaughtered the ewoks.
 
It's a complex question, between the independence and Cold War politics. Finland during the Cold War played a fairly successful game of neutrality and realpolitik (much like other minors like Austria) trying to appease his powerful neighbor without leaving too much of its own independence on the floor.

And note how the Soviet Union throughout the Cold War, basically left Finland to do as they wanted, as long as they remained neutral.

Sure, the Finns had to be careful not to piss their powerful neighbor off. Even bought Soviet military hardware. But as long as the Finns remained neutral, the Soviets let them keep both their democracy and their capitalist economy.

So much for the myth of the implacable Muscovites who want to rule all of Eastern Europe.
On a more serious point, I'd wonder if Cold War Finland would not have been a good example for Ukraine in this era.
It certainly could. In fact, that was the situation prior to 2014. Russian businesses invested in Ukraine, there was ample trade, cheap gas. And the Ukrainians got to keep their independence.

In fact, you might say that the relationship was to the detriment of Russia. In the form of excessively cheap gas to keep the Hohols on side, and a dependence on Ukrainian industry. After 2014, Russia had to scramble to find new sources for engines and mikitary hardware parts, since they had largely kept the supply lines from the SovietUnion.


Many people don't know that soviets' fears weren't completely baseless.
Viipuri massacre
Also the Finnish army planned several expeditions to capture more land near Petrograd during the civil war.
Aunus expedition
Viena expedition

Their fears were absolutely founded in fact. The Bolsheviks still remembered the Allied military expedition during the civil war, where the English straight up occupied parts of Russia.

Leaving Leningrad 20 miles from the border, a days march or a few hours drive by an armored column, was a significant worry.

Even if the Finns weren’t hostile, there was a real danger of Germany or the U.K. mounting an invasion of southern Finland and swoop across the border into some of the USSR’s most important industrial areas.

They swallow it because of pilpul's irresistably delicate scent wafts into the nostrils of the goy, the goy brain turns off whatever little processes it had going inside.
Also boomer brain worm.

Some folks were steeped in Cold War paranoia and Russophobia from an early age. The end of the Cold War, without TOTAL RUSSIAN DEFEAT felt like a wet fart to those people.

Sure, the western side sorta won the Cold War. But there was still a Russia left, rich in natural resources, and that can’t stand!
 
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Kinda of topic , but anonmoose account was also sperging about SMO. So it is funny that he is buck broken Balt.

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Three unnamed Reuters sources claim that Starlink story is true.
 
A brutal video from Seversk that was found on the phone of a captured Ukrainian soldier.


Ukrainian Nazis put a tripwire with a grenade on the door of a basement, where they had previously put a family with a small child, who were suspected of welcoming the arrival of the advancing Russian army. Link

I bet Trump was shown way worse than this, and that's why he's shutting it down. Any decent human being would do the same.

Coach Red Pill has the name and recognition in death that he wanted in life. Nuland, Blinken, Sullivan, Biden, et al, are not decent humans beings; in fact, if any of the State Department fags had a hand in his death they should be prosecuted.

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Kinda of topic , but anonmoose account was also sperging about SMO. So it is funny that he is buck broken Balt.

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Three unnamed Reuters sources claim that Starlink story is true.
Reuters is a well known hotbed of British intelligence. Just saying.

And of course, if true… So fucking what? We don’t let Russians use Starlink officially. And Musk never liked his satellites used for military purposes anyways.
 
At this fucking point i hope Trump pulls out of the EU these fuckers have had it too easy for too long Ukraine fucking shows it. Zelensky is a fucking grifting loser who is sending in people to die for a war he knows he can't win. Trump is honestly doing the right thing here if he is giving the EU an ultimatum. Seeing people die for a pointless war makes my blood boil. After this thing ends everyone who has been advocating for this war needs to be put on a trial. And at this point glass the UK just for the fuck of it.
 
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Talk about twisting the knife, damn. Next we're going to make Zelensky publicly declare the whole war was his fault and apologize to Putin. Dance monkey, DANCE!
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There are really three kinds of hohols:
  1. The true believers; nationalists militias and their supporters, integrated into the AFU and government.
  2. The low IQ iodine deficient hohols who believe whatever they're told to believe, eg, conscripts.
  3. Ethnic Russian/Ukrainians culturally, linguistically and via various familial/professional ties Russian
The first are the real problem. Hopefully they can be broken/shunted into the two western oblasts if those places remain Ukraine, the second will go along to get along and the last are the group the nationalist hohols tried to wipe out, and they absolutely have a grudge against them or anyone that helped them carry out attacks/reprisals on civilians. Post war Ukraine will be a clusterfuck for anyone trying to tard wrangle all of the above. Poland, Hungary and maybe Moldova/Romania are going to have a problem with the first group as well although to what extent remains to be seen.

There are other groups (Gypsies, Tartars, Greeks, etc.) but they're too small to make a difference.
 
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There are really three kinds of hohols:
  1. The true believers; nationalists militias and their supporters, integrated into the AFU and government.
  2. The low IQ iodine deficient hohols who believe whatever they're told to believe, eg, conscripts.
  3. Ethnic Russian/Ukrainians culturally, linguistically and via various familial/professional ties Russian

I’d argue there’s a fourth group. The IDGAF-Ukrainians who either have left the country, if they had the option, or are still there but would leave if they could.

Three decades of the Ukrainian experiment in statecraft has taught them that the state doesn’t give a fuck about them, (yet still demand loyalty since they at least don’t throw people in camps) so their only interests is to look after themselves.

These are the people who still live in Ukraine but in hiding so they won’t get bussified. The kind of people who know that politicians and businessmen steal, but instead of being morally outraged, they dream of one day being able to steal from fellow Ukrainian themselves since it’s the only way of life they know.

This group of Ukrainians is probably smaller than it was before the war, when they suddenly got a golden ticket to leave, but is still numerous. They’ll accept whatever satrap Russia, or the EU, installs and hope that he will steal slightly less than their previous ruler.
 
Blumpf is siding with the Russians so they’ll support his illegal annexation of Canada.

Also, crazy that Coach is an actual talking point. I actually do want to know how dismissive the state department was about him.
 
Even IF these labs are just heckin chungus wholesome labs that just make live saving vaccines, they still portray a rather ugly reality.

Ukraine got plenty of cheap, well educated labor because of their Soviet education system, and it’s simultaneously so poor that you can pay test subjects next to nothing.

And since you can basically pay to get whatever legislation written that you need, or buy a judge, there are no lawsuits and just peanuts in damages when the subjects suddenly start dying or develop kidney failure.
 
Blumpf is siding with the Russians so they’ll support his illegal annexation of Canada.

Also, crazy that Coach is an actual talking point. I actually do want to know how dismissive the state department was about him.
USA does not need russian support to annex canada. If tomorrow canadian parliament has a cordon of strykers and abrams' tanks around it, what can world do about it? Bitch and moan? Send strongly worded letters?
Lets be real, no one cares about canada. To most people it might as well be narnia.
 
Atleast post a link to the tweet and the upload the video
The Russians have published occasional press releases about what they found in the ones they captured. Here are a couple of them. The labs nearest Russia were some of their targets in the earliest days of the invasion. They packed up a lot of material to analyse until NATO twigged and put active defences down on the approaches. Here are a couple of pdf's going in to details of what they found. It's all a bit technical for me.

Another bit of behind the scenes negotiation. I'm not sure I believe that Donald Trump's flunkey gets to spend hours negotiating with Putin himself rather than one of his flunkeys, but I suppose it's possible.
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Germany seriously believes they have their own nukes. I suppose in theory they could hijack one and drop it from a plane, but the US keeps details of how to make them go bang to themselves.
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Belgian Defence Minister is washing his hair. Again. But the moment he's finished, you're top of his priorities, Mr Zelensky.
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Are there any US cabinet members who haven't joined in the shit talking?
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