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[Castoreum]

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The next Avatar show's been officially announced and the leaks were 100% accurate. Please be excited for post-apocalyptic wasteland Avatar.

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/avatar-last-airbender-seven-havens-animated-series-nickelodeon-1236313495/

If the trailer to this new Avatar shows an Akira bike slide, I'm going to FUCKING kill myself.

 

[A Grey Cat]

If the trailer to this new Avatar shows an Akira bike slide, I'm going to FUCKING kill myself.

See when shows like powerpuff girls did homage to Akira it was actually funny nit just cause of how totally different the two properties are, but also cause Akira and ghost in the shell were like the only two well known anime movies outside Japan at the time.


Doing an Akira "homage" here and now? After everyone and their grandmother has seen it? It just reeks of desperation.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

If the trailer to this new Avatar shows an Akira bike slide, I'm going to FUCKING kill myself.

See when shows like powerpuff girls did homage to Akira it was actually funny nit just cause of how totally different the two properties are, but also cause Akira and ghost in the shell were like the only two well known anime movies outside Japan at the time.


Doing an Akira "homage" here and now? After everyone and their grandmother has seen it? It just reeks of desperation.

Should they start referencing Suzaku from Code Geass?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Doing an Akira "homage" here and now? After everyone and their grandmother has seen it? It just reeks of desperation.

Sonic 3 did a shout-out because Shadow on his bike and it was still fucking awesome. Context is key.

And besides, I'm tired of the shitty magical girl homages/plagiarism, so an Akira bike slide is just fine by me.

 

[Hamsteroid]

Should they start referencing Suzaku from Code Geass?

If they can't stop themselves from referencing gay shit, they should go full homo.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Sonic 3 did a shout-out because Shadow on his bike and it was still fucking awesome. Context is key.

And besides, I'm tired of the shitty magical girl homages/plagiarism, so an Akira bike slide is just fine by me.

Ideally? Make your OWN iconic and memorable imagery for once western man.

 

[Castoreum]

See when shows like powerpuff girls did homage to Akira it was actually funny nit just cause of how totally different the two properties are, but also cause Akira and ghost in the shell were like the only two well known anime movies outside Japan at the time.


Doing an Akira "homage" here and now? After everyone and their grandmother has seen it? It just reeks of desperation.

It's the Wilhelm Scream of animation.

 

[Archeops]

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The next Avatar show's been officially announced and the leaks were 100% accurate. Please be excited for post-apocalyptic wasteland Avatar.

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/avatar-last-airbender-seven-havens-animated-series-nickelodeon-1236313495/

A friend of mine and I were chatting about this when the leaks started to come out and we were both scratching our heads over what the actual fuck Korra could do to plunge the entire world into chaos and uproot civilization.

We both know that Korra isn't inherently bad but as the Avatar she still has a bad track record. After thinking about we both came to the conclusion that Korra more than likely didn't start the apocalypse but she more than likely was duped into initially helping whatever forces did.

As for what "Big Bad" could've done the deed we both have our theories, his are a bit boring but mine is kind of outlandish.

Spoiler

If Bryke has the scruples to keep up the 1920's timeframe that Korra brought into the series they'd be absolute idiots not make their own take on H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds, even more so if Korra would still be alive by the time the world would reach a 1930's/40's to reference the famous radio drama by Orson Welles.

 

[Hamsteroid]

After Korra "saved" the world, the people voted - for no reason at all - an anti-bender into power to trump (wink wink) the Avatar. This guy then uses some bullshit doomsday device (because he is evil™) to nuke everything back into the stone age.
Bonus points if he survived and is still the big bad.

 

[McMitch]

an anti-bender

They already did non-benders as the bad guys (and failed to pull it off). I think the only bending category left to be a main antagonist would be earth benders.

 

[Peru oso donas]

Doing an Akira "homage" here and now? After everyone and their grandmother has seen it? It just reeks of desperation.

Also, you know for fact the people who decided to put it in probably never watched Akira and are just doing it because it's "i c o n i c" rather than genuine passion.

They already did non-benders as the bad guys (and failed to pull it off). I think the only bending category left to be a main antagonist would be earth benders.

I think he meant something more like "the dark avatar" from Korra book 2, which sounds so stupid it wouldn't surprise me if the writers actually add him back.

 

[starborn427614]

A friend of mine and I were chatting about this when the leaks started to come out and we were both scratching our heads over what the actual fuck Korra could do to plunge the entire world into chaos and uproot civilization.

We both know that Korra isn't inherently bad but as the Avatar she still has a bad track record. After thinking about we both came to the conclusion that Korra more than likely didn't start the apocalypse but she more than likely was duped into initially helping whatever forces did.

As for what "Big Bad" could've done the deed we both have our theories, his are a bit boring but mine is kind of outlandish.

Spoiler

If Bryke has the scruples to keep up the 1920's timeframe that Korra brought into the series they'd be absolute idiots not make their own take on H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds, even more so if Korra would still be alive by the time the world would reach a 1930's/40's to reference the famous radio drama by Orson Welles.

I'm leaning more to it being the first nuke, or something similar.

 

[Hamsteroid]

They already did non-benders as the bad guys (and failed to pull it off). I think the only bending category left to be a main antagonist would be earth benders.

Most modern writers don't learn and repeat their mistakes over and over. I wouldn't be surprised if they try "populist movements are bad, mkay" once more.

I think he meant something more like "the dark avatar" from Korra book 2, which sounds so stupid it wouldn't surprise me if the writers actually add him back.

I have purged most of Legend of Korra from my brain, so the Dark Avatar didn't come to mind. But yes, it's so retarded that there is a good chance we'll se him again.

 

[McMitch]

the dark avatar

This could be fun from a series that took itself less seriously.

 

[Anonitolia]

Drawing For Nothing

I had no clue this existed, thank you for linking it!

That proto-Wreck it Ralph movie is a pretty odd tragedy. Imagine shelving a guy's passion project only to use the premise for the villain of the movie that usurped it. What a spit in the face. You can even see some elements of Turbo in the old protagonist's designs if you squint. Part of me wants to say it was unintentional, but... meh, we'll never know. Also, that Halo-like game really lives up to the name lol. Dude must've been binging the shit out of that series while working on the movie.


Thank god that Jim Carrey Fish Movie never got made. Like holy shit nothing about this could have ever worked. The fact that it was even considered for production again after Shark Tale released and bombed just speaks to how incredibly stupid WB's management is. How on earth did this even get far enough into production to waste 10 million dollars?


Dreaming Machine is another tragedy that I won't spoil for you. I really hope they find a fitting director for it someday, that film deserves to be completed.


Would highly recommend reading the book. It's completely free at the provided link and pretty interesting.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Thank god that Jim Carrey Fish Movie never got made. Like holy shit nothing about this could have ever worked. The fact that it was even considered for production again after Shark Tale released and bombed just speaks to how incredibly stupid WB's management is. How on earth did this even get far enough into production to waste 10 million dollars?

Oh God were they remaking The Incredible Mr. Limpet?

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Couldn't they just have said that the entirety of Korra never happened, apologized for fumbling the ball badly (to be fair didn’t Nick keep jerking them around with how many seasons they got?) and just say we will do better this time. When your main character is just the worst is there really any shame in Thanos Snapping it into oblivion? At the very least some mea culpa will at least make some people willing to give it a shot. Granted leaked material already tells me this will likely suck beyond belief, but still.

They can't because, whether we like it or not, Korra does have a fanbase and one that has only gotten larger since the Netflix push.

I know it is easy to brush it off as just woke people, but I do know normies IRL who were really into it. Hell, my brother got into Avatar during the Netflix push, and even though he is as normie as they come (politically slightly right / Ben Shapiro right) I remember him telling me Korra was the better show. Not sure if he still holds that opinion, but I do remember him being into it. Also used to take martial arts and I remember students there going off about how great Avatar and Korra are, this being way before the "Woke" era.

Korra is one of those shows where I can honestly see how, if you really just didn't care about Avatar lore, you'd really enjoy it. The show had a lot more action and was a lot more experimental in the kinds of bending techniques they were doing.

'Course not.
When was the last time anybody's looked at a whole series, owned up to its poor quality, and went "Yeah, that was shit, don't worry, none of it's canon anymore."?

Technically Sonic has also done this numerous times, but Sonic also re-introduces its poor-quality entries into canon as well. 06 was forgotten, and technically its own universe that was a punching bag for the series, then Sonic Generations made it canon. Boom was also made fun of and forgotten, till randomly Sticks gets mentioned as being part of the main canon. Hell, even the movies operate like this, where ugly Sonic will be dead-and-buried till he is randomly brought back.


Also what is the criteria for owning up? I feel like a lot of franchises just move on and act like the previous didn't happen, maybe making slight references to it. Technically Shrek 4 sort of falls under this category as it seems to just act like Shrek 3 never happened outside of the babies.

 

[Archeops]

I'm leaning more to it being the first nuke, or something similar.

I assumed that’s what the Book 4’s giant mecha was supposed to represent

And to add onto your “first nuke” theory it’s worth remembering that alien/UFO sightings drastically increased after we dropped nukes on Japan, when started testing numbers nuclear weapons, and are often sighted near nuclear bases.

 

[Cave Fisher]

A friend of mine and I were chatting about this when the leaks started to come out and we were both scratching our heads over what the actual fuck Korra could do to plunge the entire world into chaos and uproot civilization.

We both know that Korra isn't inherently bad but as the Avatar she still has a bad track record. After thinking about we both came to the conclusion that Korra more than likely didn't start the apocalypse but she more than likely was duped into initially helping whatever forces did.

As for what "Big Bad" could've done the deed we both have our theories, his are a bit boring but mine is kind of outlandish.

Spoiler

If Bryke has the scruples to keep up the 1920's timeframe that Korra brought into the series they'd be absolute idiots not make their own take on H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds, even more so if Korra would still be alive by the time the world would reach a 1930's/40's to reference the famous radio drama by Orson Welles.

My theory is that a REALLY dangerous spirit came into the picture and she ended up taking the heat for its actions after the whole spirit world stuff, or maybe even trusting it when she shouldn't have, like Wan did with that one evil carpet thing. For all that Korra's setting pushed it, it's just not at all "avatar"-like for the world to be destroyed by a nuke or alien invasion.

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

The duo behind Kinnikuman is the one that comes to mind, but there are probably other examples. Kinnukman Nisei is now separate and they went back and made a different sequel where that sequel isn't canon.

Nisei wasn't that bad. I think people just didn't like seeing a future where the old main cast are broken down and used to prop up the new main cast.