Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Feline Supremacist]

USA mindraped the fuck out of lonely Columbian boys over the drug wars. These morons think that fighting against putler will somehow topple Chavez's ghost and then Gran Colombia will be reformed or whatever..

Truth of the matter is much as all former neocon project these days: Venezuela, Cuba and even these soldier of fortunes home ground of Colombia are full of people whom generationally know when to to ignore the imperialist noise because it just creates a lot of death and starvation. And if that comes, they know its fully the fault of off continent imperialist sanctioning.

The AFU commanders continue to steal their pay and refuse to pay out widows/families yet they still go. Honestly idgt unless they have an IQ lower than that of a chimpanzee.

 

[Lookie-lou]

The AFU commanders continue to steal their pay and refuse to pay out widows/families yet they still go. Honestly idgt unless they have an IQ lower than that of a chimpanzee.

it's much as the same of western Ukraine, really fucked up info bubble by the prior regimes. Most people cut off from a wider info drip will just become boomers whom wave off the news cycle as noise they do not need to hear.

But young and dumb boys or men surrounded in family drama looking for an out? Whose only easy source of info that is from the wider world is the grand emperor of propaganda; the USA? I am not saying pity them, i spit on banderites same as cartel monsters whom likewise create such subhuman demon activity, I am just saying there is a very clear ideology stream of the neocons causing this despicable results.

 

[The giant penis of doom]

But there is no war. Russia has not declared war, they started a limited special military operation. Ukraine has likewise never declared war.

And especially there is no war between the EU and Russia. And I don't think the population is ready for there to be.

 

[Fapcop]

That might legitimately start WW3 if Putin decides to retaliate against the bankers.

Meh… Russia has already assumed those money are gone. It won’t hurt them.

The payback should be funny to watch though. The money is handled by Euroclear. Who also does business in jursdictions that isn’t under EU law.

Such as Hong Kong.

Russia could retaliate by suing them, throwing the whole international money system into turmoil.

 

[Rubick]

If EU banks are allowed to steal Russian assets they were trusted to hold and redistribute them to the country they're at war with that sets a precedent. No sovereign nation on earth would hold assets in those places any more. EU banks collapse. The end.

I addressed this before. If EU does this ...well

 

[Nopenopenope]

This happens in every war. US did it with Japanese (after China hijinks, before PH), German and other Axis assets in WWII, and by the end of it there was nothing to give back even if they wanted (lmao). Might as well start treating it like a real one.

The difference is though that the japs were beat, their country was fucked even before the bombs were dropped.

Russia is winning their war, the country is more or less untouched by bombs etc, and even with all the sanctions their economy is still on its feet. This is not the same at all. Russia is still able to retaliate enough to make the life of Europeans even worse than it already is.

 

[01169]

The EU leaders are so stupid oh my God. Are they all mentally retarded there? The fuck happened? France, Britain, and Germany used to have so many great, brave, and smart men. But what happened now? Did WW2 really kill ALL normal-minded people and only complete perverts, cowards, and RETARDS were the ones who survived?

The United States happened. And Jews of course.

For years Soros. Schwab and other WEF creatures have groomed their pets. It was so that Europe and in particular Germany would never grow too close to Russia because a united Europe would be a true contender in world politics.

So only people that are buck broken transatlantics were allowed into politics and higher government offices.

WW2 has nothing to do with it. What came afterwards did.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

If EU banks are allowed to steal Russian assets they were trusted to hold and redistribute them to the country they're at war with that sets a precedent. No sovereign nation on earth would hold assets in those places any more. EU banks collapse. The end.

Let's have a big hand for our favourite website.

 

[01169]

One of the strangest things about this war is the large number of Colombian mercs that go to the Ukraine in droves.

Probably because it's still safer than at home lol.

 

[RealNigNog]

Let's have a big hand for our favourite website.
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I feel like Reddit is 90% bots 10% mentally ill people.

 

[Rubick]

I addressed this before. If EU does this ...well

Speaking of this. The Russian government itself been slowly and silently confiscating sovereign private held assets by the West inside of Russia. Presenting it as a reaction to the freeze of RuCB reserves. And the assets seized by the Russians is live, usable, operational assets. While the RuCB assets, frozen in the West, were basically Russian money invested into western economies (by buying western debt), Which further just showcases it that the EU didn't think this true.

 

[Necrosan]

Let's have a big hand for our favourite website.
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I hope they get what they wish for.

 

[itogi]

Time to check $ to ₽ exchange rate

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I hope Vince isn't taking this too hard. I'm sure there will be a job for him in the new mines.

 

[TexWiller]

Would you care to elaborate? I am not a financier so I have very basic understanding of possible consequences.

it would throw a giant monkey wrench in the mechanisms of international trade, kill the euro as reserve currency, possibly the dollar. increase a lot transaction costs for the europoor.

would accelerate enormously the creation of alternatives, which is good.

also, check the movie mary poppins, there is a textbook depiction of a bank run and yes, thats how a trading/financial system works: 100% on trust. once this is gone, all bets are off.

and thats why anyone with two working neurons that knows something about trading and finance is very opposed to this idea, but the european political leaders are beyond mad.

and the idiocy of the so called european leaders never stops giving. who could have possibly seen this coming

 

[The Big A]

One of the strangest things about this war is the large number of Colombian mercs that go to the Ukraine in droves. I'm sure many are lured by what they think is easy money but there has to be something else to it as most Latin Americans are very well informed about the meatgrinder, and believe fighting Russia over the Ukraine, which they see as historically Russian, is extraordinarily stupid.

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-15C is 5F, certainly cold and freezing but a lot of Americans where it snows can deal with it, I have.

From what I've read, it's $250K for a 6 month term in Ukraine. That's life changing money in Colombia, over 20 years worth of a median wage down there. Even with the extremely high risk of getting killed by the Russians, being sent on suicide missions by your employers so they don't have to pay you, and being executed for desertion for refusing such orders, the pay is still good enough that it attracts the violent and desperate. I've even heard that surviving your deployment isn't enough, as one flight back to Bogita from Kiev got diverted to Caracas, where the mercs were arrested and sent to Russia.

I've also heard that plenty of Colombians are telling their countrymen to head over to Sudan instead and fight alongside the RSF rebels instead of Ukraine.

 

[オプセック]

it would throw a giant monkey wrench in the mechanisms of international trade, kill the euro as reserve currency, possibly the dollar.

NO

But very generally speaking:
When there is NO trade left between Russia and the west, war becomes the only option for resource exchange, which is what they want.

 

[TexWiller]

NO

But very generally speaking:
When there is NO trade left between Russia and the west, war becomes the only option for resource exchange, which is what they want.

well, is very hard to make predictions, especially about the future
and i am no expert, just a bobbyist.

so hard to tell what will happen in such case, but for certain, there would be no more incentive to buy euro or dollars and park them in institution for clearing payments as the risk of this money being seized for whatever reason has been so far zero and now isnt.

financial crises snowball very fast into epic proportions, as 2008 showed,

im really curious to see what happens if the audit fort knox

 

[Procopius]

I wonder if this was the French jets.

 

[Goodstuff Goose]

https://xcancel.com/BrianJBerletic/status/1894231771077906852

The more I think about the past few years, the more I feel like Trump taking the helm was exactly the plan all along. I mean look at how chummy Obama and Biden were with him at the Carter funeral and the inauguration.

I know it sounds tinfoil-hatted, but Biden and Kamala throwing the election to allow Trump to take the fall with the Ukraine pullout, and subsequent refocusing on China, is exactly the overarching foreign policy that makes sense for the United States here.

With Trump taking over and offering a deal to Russia, the USA gets to pull out of the Ukraine war, while keeping Europe and Russia locked in conflict against each other. Europe is now forced to increase its defense spending (a longstanding goal for the US) while its politics will turn more right-wing in the process. Sanctions on Russia can at least be partially lifted, thus letting American companies continue making bank and having influence in Russia. Even the ambitions to acquire Greenland are a long-standing goal for the USA, and were not originally Trump's idea.

Regardless of what happens, their relationship with Europe isn't seriously threatened -- the Europeans are entirely reliant on the US for making sure they have enough natural gas, and once the pendulum swings back and the Democrats take over again, all sins will be forgiven. After all, we have a precedent for this with Trump's first term. The pendulum swinging back is likely also the point where the Russians get fucked over again, if they take a deal, and if it ends up being a Minsk 3.

In the end, Europe is locked into a conflict with Russia and will be unable to make any deals with China (as US foreign policy goals have been drilled into their minds, they will continue considering China a threat, even when the US is screwing them raw), and Russia will be unable to significantly aid China as they will be locked into conflict with Ukraine and Europe.

Then add into the mix everything that has been happening in South America and the Middle East, and you can see that the US is systematically trying to take out all of China's potential allies for a future conflict. Trump is so far playing his part perfectly.