Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Charred Dinosaur]

Try not to laugh.

At last.
It took us millenia of cultural development but we have finally done it

We now have world leaders using the "you can't hit me, I have a everything proof force field" strategy

 

[Meh123]

I'm struggling to see exactly what Ukraine or Zelensky get from this "deal"? What would've been different if he had said no? Are we just agreeing to keep sending them 1980's junk at double the original list price or what?

Ukraine has no chance. Either sign it or be left to dry.

Of course the political, social and military consequence of saying no is basically Putin stream rolling demoralized Ukranian front lines.

I'm having an impression that trump is trying to recover some of the investments the previous governments made in the oinkraine project. Pretty distasteful if you ask me, but completely in line with trump and the USA in general.

Best thing to do is get US and Russia to codevelop and invest in mineral production in Ukraine as well as, if EUROfags will do it, European nations.

That would make absolute sense, hence it will never happen :rainbows:

They get to stop being killed.

If the only goal would be to stop being killed, they could unconditionally surrender to RU and be done with the shit they'll go through anyway (oblasts "liberated", whatever territorial concessions, limits on military size, pledge of neutrality) without killing more ukrainian plebs.

HBO's Chernobyl series foretold the re-emergence of Ukraine's rich mining heritage.

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At least they have that going for them.

- Mom, I want to mine the Khorium
- We have Khorium at home
The Khorium at home:

 

[Easterling]

What the fuck is even peacekeeper?
and how it is different from a merc?

In the context of UN peacekeepers they're just armed Paedophiles

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

As is said above: It's pretty rambo - i.e. stupid - to walk in on them like that, esp. when they are scared teenagers playing irl call of duty. No cop would do that.
They weren't kidding when they said this shit is like WW1 overall.

Really goes to show how propaganda WW 2 is since it was the same war, but bigger, louder and faster.

 

[Fapcop]

I think Trump is smart enough to recognize that no money signed with Zelensky is worth anything, and he’ll backtrack in a few weeks.

It’s a sideshow to appease the neocons while he hammers out a deal with the Russians that doesn’t include Ukraine. And simultaneously giving Zelensky enough rope to hang himself, so Trump can say: “See?! This man is impossible to deal with!” And wash his hands off Ukraine.

Try not to laugh.

https://t.me/lastoppo/8038

Why… Are peacekeepers necessary again?

Either there is a ceasefire, in which case peacekeepers aren’t necessarily.

Or there isn’t. In which case they’ll go home in bodybags.

It’s such a transparent attempt at provoking a confrontation and try to force Trump to send in the troops, but it’s so halfassed and retarded that anyone can see right through it.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Try not to laugh.

https://t.me/lastoppo/8038

Wait wut.

 

[IKOL]

Try not to laugh.

https://t.me/lastoppo/8038

Way to go, Emma. Way to go.
Also lol no, you bring your fag toads there and they'll get roasted. No promises cuz we can't guarantee enraged Ukrainians who have lost their motherland and their living because of YOU and YOUR puppet as president would not try to fuckin' tear 'em to pieces.

Also what a way to call yer filthy mercs "peacekeepers". I hope some froggie would accidently poison you and you'll get shit 24\7 non-stop, especially in presence of your husbando.

 

[Bunkerhousing]

3 years of this shitshow and I guess at leeast two more to come.
Also check this

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Deal's off. Promising to stop any involvement in this ongoing conflict and chose to switch the shoes on the go.
Fuck. Off. With. That. Bullshit.

But this does not adress the main lack of Ukraine. Manpower. Who is going to use all this equipment. The eighteen year olds. That will go down well.

At last.
It took us millenia of cultural development but we have finally done it

We now have world leaders using the "you can't hit me, I have a everything proof force field" strategy

A peacekeeper is a kind of police force. They have stricter rules of engagement.

 

[Procopius]

But this does not adress the main lack of Ukraine. Manpower. Who is going to use all this equipment. The eighteen year olds. That will go down well.

The expats. They're apparently the most belligerent.

Or maybe not. War's great if you're not the one in the trenches.

Although if you're trying to excape from a safe region, you might find it hard

That sounds like prime Banderite country. Hard to find much sympathy for them.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Aussie Cossack translated some videos on the news at hand:

Case in point:

Russian Army Liberates Pogrebki and Orlovka in Kursk Region,Says Defense Ministry

The Russian Ministry of Defense has confirmed the liberation of two villages in the Kursk border region, according to its latest daily report. This announcement aligns with earlier reports about the successful military operations in the area.

Assault units from the 34th Guards Mountain Motorized Rifle Brigade reportedly liberated the villages of Pogrebki and Orlovka in the Sudzha district of Kursk Oblast. This follows their capture of the neighboring village of Marievka just a day earlier. Link

Russia is still going for as much eastern territory before any agreements; I assume they mean to go to the Dnieper but they may not stop there, as well going to the banks of the Danube. As they should.

Forgot to add:

Spoiler: Gains, lengthy

On February 25, the North group of troops continued to carry out tasks to liberate the Kursk region

Our fearless motorized riflemen broke the stubborn resistance of the "elite" airborne assault units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and liberated Pogrebki and Orlovka. Our assault units also made significant progress to the south and in the surrounding forest belts.

The paratroopers continue to fight for the liberation of Lebedivka. Despite fierce resistance from Ukrainian special forces and border guards, Severyan's airborne units were able to dislodge the enemy from several strongholds and advance eastward.

Fearless marines continue to wage stubborn battles in the forested areas around Kurilovka. In 24 hours, marine units have advanced more than 550 meters and are gaining a foothold.

The enemy, despite colossal losses, is trying to stop the advance of our troops at any cost - the Ukrainian Armed Forces are deployed on all sections of the front.

The total advance of the Northerners in the Kursk region was over 4,250 meters , and 31 units of enemy armored vehicles were destroyed.

In the Liptsy direction, North artillerymen and UAV operators destroyed two enemy combat groups along with motor vehicles and satellite communications stations.

Our Fearless UAV crews also destroyed three Ukrainian Armed Forces pickup trucks along with their personnel and heavy machine guns in the vicinity of Liptsy.

In the Volchansk direction, the Fearless Assaults drove the enemy out of an important stronghold on the eastern outskirts of the city near the Volchya River.

Our scouts discovered, and artillerymen and UAV operators destroyed three enemy combat groups along with vehicles and satellite communication stations.

In addition, the Fearless reconnaissance uncovered the preparation of the Ukrainian fascists for a counterattack in the direction using armored vehicles and MLRS. The identified targets were immediately subjected to complex fire damage. The following were destroyed: a tank, an armored fighting vehicle, a Grad MLRS, vehicles and enemy personnel.

Over the past 24 hours, the enemy's losses amounted to over 380 people (of which over 250 were in the Sumy direction). Also discovered and destroyed:

In the Sumy direction:
three tanks;
three armored personnel carriers, including the M-113 (USA);
twenty five armored fighting vehicles;
twenty-six units of automotive equipment;
nine field artillery guns, including the M-777 howitzer (USA);
EW station;
four satellite communication stations;
fourteen UAV launch sites;
thirty-two fixed-wing UAVs and seven Baba Yaga-type octocopters.

In the Volchansk direction:
"AMX-10RCR" (France);
MLRS "Grad";
AV;
three units of automotive equipment;
three satellite communication stations;
four UAV control points;
one unit of engineering equipment;
six aircraft-type UAVs and eight copters of various modifications.

In the Liptsovsky direction:
five units of automotive equipment;
two satellite communication stations;
two aircraft-type UAVs and three copters of various modifications.

Our aviation also actively worked on the concentration of enemy personnel and equipment in various areas in the north of the Kharkov region. Over 20 armored fighting vehicles and more than 120 Ukrainian fascists were destroyed.

The retreat of the elite 95th airborne assault brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Pogrebki to Malaya Loknya has increased panic in other units of the Ukrainian fascists. Our units are advancing on all sections of the front line, but it is clearly premature to talk about any collapse of the enemy front.

We continue to record an increase in enemy activity in the Volchansk direction. For the first time in a long time, the enemy began to prepare a counterattack using MLRS and a tank. However, our intelligence is monitoring every step of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and all Fearless Warriors are ready not only for a potential provocation of the enemy, but also for its complete defeat.

Link

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

The expats. They're apparently the most belligerent.

Or maybe not. War's great if you're not the one in the trenches.

Absolutely classic. Disgusting behavior.

 

[Uncle Buck]

That would make absolute sense, hence it will never happen :rainbows:

Was that not, in fact, exactly what Yanukovych was attempting to do while negotiating with both Russia and the peEU while refusing to sell Ukraine on the cheap to the West?

 

[kuuu]

In case anybody wonders what zman sounds like without his.. whatever you call that fake and gay voice.

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A bit of rumors about the signed resource deal with the US(the news are just cropping up):
"There is no $500 billion in debt, 350 billion, or 100 billion in the agreement. The main thing for me was that we are not debtors," Zelensky said about the final version of the agreement with the United States
There is supposedly a but there:
The maximum percentage of shares will be set by the United States. Both countries will invest and reinvest in the income fund received from the future monetization of ALL natural resource assets of Ukraine. These are oil, gas, valuable natural metals, seaports, and so on. For Ukraine — 50%.
And no security guarantees, lol.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Absolutely classic. Disgusting behavior.

Ukrainian draft-dodgers will continue to be the gift that keeps on giving in the EU for a looong time to come.

 

[Fapcop]

Think I mentioned this before, but when I visited Ukraine, during the war, some of the people who were on the bus from Warsaw were Ukrainian “refugees” going home on holiday to spend their welfare money.

There is zero fucking reason for any of them to be in the west. Zero.

Ukraine outside of the warzone is totally untouched, if you don’t count the occasional air raid on military targets outside of Kiev or Odessa.

They all came because Ukraine is a corrupt shithole. And the people who used to live in warzone of Donetsk and Lugansk, are only in the west because the Ukrainian government doesn’t want to spend squat on them. Better to send possible “Russians” to the west, rather than spend money on feeding and housing them.

I would have zero problems if they were all picked up at gunpoint if necessary, given a few hundred euros and sent back.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Think I mentioned this before, but when I visited Ukraine, during the war, some of the people who were on the bus from Warsaw were Ukrainian “refugees” going home on holiday to spend their welfare money.

I have heard of this happening with "refugees" in Europe not just from Ukraine but from other countries too.

I personally am of the opinion that if you're truly afraid for your life and fleeing war or whatever, then you should not be allowed to go back and forth willy-nilly. Otherwise you're just a tourist and there's no reason for the countries you're fleeing to, to support you.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Think I mentioned this before, but when I visited Ukraine, during the war, some of the people who were on the bus from Warsaw were Ukrainian “refugees” going home on holiday to spend their welfare money.

There is zero fucking reason for any of them to be in the west. Zero.

Ukraine outside of the warzone is totally untouched, if you don’t count the occasional air raid on military targets outside of Kiev or Odessa.

They all came because Ukraine is a corrupt shithole. And the people who used to live in warzone of Donetsk and Lugansk, are only in the west because the Ukrainian government doesn’t want to spend squat on them. Better to send possible “Russians” to the west, rather than spend money on feeding and housing them.

I would have zero problems if they were all picked up at gunpoint if necessary, given a few hundred euros and sent back.

A transport company here, RegioJet, actually STARTED a new line between Prague and Lvov/Kiev in 2022 after the invasion. You get a discount if you have a Ukrainian passport.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

https://kyivindependent.com/breaking-kyiv-washington-reach-agreement-on-minerals-deal/

https://megalodon.jp/2025-0226-0441-52/https://kyivindependent.com:443/breaking-kyiv-washington-reach-agreement-on-minerals-deal/

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Full text of the agreement is now public:

BILATERAL AGREEMENT ESTABLISHING TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR A RECONSTRUCTION INVESTMENT FUND

WHEREAS the United States of America has provided significant financial and material support to Ukraine since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022;

WHEREAS the American people desire to invest alongside Ukraine in a free, sovereign and secure Ukraine;

WHEREAS the United States of America and Ukraine desire a lasting peace in Ukraine and a durable partnership between their two peoples and governments;

WHEREAS the United States of America and Ukraine recognize the contribution that Ukraine has made to strengthening international peace and security by voluntarily abandoning the world's third largest arsenal of nuclear weapons;

WHEREAS the United States of America and Ukraine wish to ensure that those States and other persons that have acted adversely to Ukraine in the conflict do not benefit from the reconstruction of Ukraine following a lasting peace;

NOW, THEREFORE, the Government of the United States of America and the Government of Ukraine (each, a “Participant”) hereby enter into this Bilateral Agreement Establishing Terms and Conditions for a Reconstruction Investment Fund to deepen the partnership between the United States of America and Ukraine, as set forth herein.

1. The Governments of Ukraine and the United States of America, with the aim of achieving lasting peace in Ukraine, intend to establish a Reconstruction Investment Fund (Fund), partnering in the Fund through joint ownership, to be further defined in the Fund Agreement. Joint ownership will take into consideration the actual contributions of the Participants as defined in Sections 3 and 4. The Fund will be jointly managed by representatives of the Government of Ukraine and the Government of the United States of America. More detailed terms pertaining to the Fund’s governance and operation will be set forth in a subsequent agreement (the Fund Agreement) to be negotiated promptly after the conclusion of this Bilateral Agreement. The maximum percentage of ownership of the Fund’s equity and financial interests to be held by the Government of the United States of America and the decision-making authority of the representatives of the Government of the United States of America will be to the extent permissible under applicable United States laws.

Neither Participant will sell, transfer or otherwise dispose of, directly or indirectly, any portion of its interest in the Fund without the prior written consent of the other Participant.

2. The Fund will collect and reinvest revenues contributed to the Fund, minus expenses incurred by the Fund, and will earn income from the future monetization of all relevant Ukrainian Government-owned natural resource assets (whether owned directly or indirectly by the Ukrainian Government), as defined in Section 3

3. The Government of Ukraine will contribute to the Fund 50 percent of all revenues earned from the future monetization of all relevant Ukrainian Government-owned natural resource assets (whether owned directly or indirectly by the Ukrainian Government), defined as deposits of minerals, hydrocarbons, oil, natural gas, and other extractable materials, and other infrastructure relevant to natural resource assets (such as liquified natural gas terminals and port infrastructure) as agreed by both Participants, as may be further described in the Fund Agreement. For the avoidance of doubt, such future sources of revenues do not include the current sources of revenues which are already part of the general budget revenues of Ukraine. Timeline, scope and sustainability of contributions will be further defined in the Fund Agreement.

The Fund, in its sole discretion, may credit or return to the Government of Ukraine actual expenses incurred by the newly developed projects from which the Fund receives revenues.

Contributions made to the Fund will be reinvested at least annually in Ukraine to promote the safety, security and prosperity of Ukraine, to be further defined in the Fund Agreement. The Fund Agreement will also provide for future distributions.

4. Subject to applicable United States law, the Government of the United States of America will maintain a long-term financial commitment to the development of a stable and economically prosperous Ukraine. Further contributions may be comprised of funds, financial instruments, and other tangible and intangible assets critical for the reconstruction of Ukraine.

5. The Fund's investment process will be designed so as to invest in projects in Ukraine and attract investments to increase the development, processing and monetization of all public and private Ukrainian assets including, but not limited to, deposits of minerals, hydrocarbons, oil, natural gas, and other extractable materials, infrastructure, ports, and state-owned enterprises as may be further described in the Fund Agreement. The Government of the United States of America and the Government of Ukraine intend that the investment process will lead to opportunities for distribution of additional funds and greater reinvestment, to ensure the sufficient supply of capital for the reconstruction of Ukraine as set out in the Fund Agreement.

The Participants reserve the right to take such action as necessary to protect and maximize the value of their economic interests in the Fund.

6. The Fund Agreement will include appropriate representations and warranties, including those necessary to ensure that any obligations the Government of Ukraine may have to third parties, or such obligations that it may undertake in the future, do not sell, convey, transfer pledge, or otherwise encumber the Government of Ukraine’s contributions to the Fund or the assets from which such contributions are derived, or the Fund’s disposition of funds.

In drafting the Fund Agreement, the Participants will strive to avoid conflicts with Ukraine’s obligations under its accession to the European Union or its obligations under arrangements with international financial institutions and other official creditors.

7. The Fund Agreement will provide, inter alia, an acknowledgment that both the Fund Agreement and the activities provided for therein are commercial in nature.

The Fund agreement shall be ratified by the Parliament of Ukraine according to the Law of Ukraine "On International Treaties of Ukraine."

8. The Fund Agreement will pay particular attention to the control mechanisms that make it impossible to weaken, violate or circumvent sanctions and other restrictive measures.

9. The text of the Fund Agreement will be developed without delay by working groups chaired by authorized representatives of the Government of Ukraine and the Government of the United States of America. Contact persons responsible for preparing the Fund Agreement on the basis of this Bilateral Agreement are: from the Government of the United States of America: the Department of the Treasury; from the Government of Ukraine: Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Economy.

10. This Bilateral Agreement and the Fund Agreement will constitute integral elements of the architecture of bilateral and multilateral agreements, as well as concrete steps to establish lasting peace, and to strengthen economic security resilience and reflect the objectives set forth in the preamble to this Bilateral Agreement.

The Government of the United States of America supports Ukraine’s efforts to obtain security guarantees needed to establish lasting peace. Participants will seek to identify any necessary steps to protect mutual investments, as defined in the Fund Agreement.

11. This Bilateral Agreement is binding and will be implemented by each Participant according to its domestic procedures. The Government of the United States of America and the Government of Ukraine commit to proceed forthwith to negotiate the Fund Agreement.

https://kyivindependent.com/exclusive-the-full-text-of-the-final-us-ukraine-mineral-agreement/

https://megalodon.jp/2025-0227-0047-13/https://kyivindependent.com:443/exclusive-the-full-text-of-the-final-us-ukraine-mineral-agreement/

 

[オプセック]

Really goes to show how propaganda WW 2 is since it was the same war, but bigger, louder and faster.

My dad wasn't in korea, but he had a friend from greece (merc stuff?) who was there with the u.s. and he told him about a few times he saw army guys with revolvers closing in on scared koreans shooting them dead like in wild west movies - upright, running from house corner to house corner at best, sometimes shit went wrong and they were ass blasted by koreans too - he must've told it in a lot of detail and it must've blown my dad's mind, else he wouldn't have retold it himself - didn't seem like bullshit. The greek guy was bewildered and hated those types of guys. First for putting the unit at risk, sometimes dropping like flies and second for going exterminator on kids scared shitless. I'm really wondering when tactics or taking prisoners even became a thing sometimes or if ever at all.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Aka "we have agreed on nothing except more haggling later but Trump can say he made Zelensky accept his terms".