Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[UCT]

If they wanted to do this they needed to set it in the past, where all the zones can be sprawling and connected or so far into the future that new habbits have been created.

It feels like they had the idea and then realised Zones would be way easier to implement

Agreed I was kinda hoping they would’ve been more creative with the wild areas. Like if it’s set in the future just have future technology create literal wild areas. Kinda lame that it just seems to be an abandoned street or alley way for Pokemon lol.

Edit: Would’ve been a awesome idea to set it in a post apocalyptic Kalos where you literally have to repair the city, zone by zone and that’s why a lot of the Pokemon are just hanging out in the streets. I mean X/Y had the whole super weapon and war storyline and they’ve already set the precedent for different timelines and universes. So it could’ve been the universe where Lysandre succeeded and fired the weapon off and wasn’t stopped.

 

[30+GameOvers]

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Shot of the new character designs I've been bitching about. They look like worse New Snap designs. Which is impressive given that New Snap included Discount Shauna and protagonists so bland that they almost rival SV's.
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Also, upon further reflection, that A-Z has a cane. He is definitely not younger. And that guy has a Buneary on his head, not a small child with pom-poms... are they going to pull another Saguaro and make him all soft and cuddly on the inside? Boring

God I hate the new art direction. I don't know what to call it, but it's certainly worse than what we've had in the Sugimori era.
Also, why does A-Z look like a faggot now? I prefer the hobo look. Frankly, I just don't think Kalos has enough lore or nostalgia going for it to justify making this game, Isekai Diamond/Pearl with brand new Pokemon on the other hand was an awesome idea, especially with all the mythos of the region. Seems really forced, just dropping a next gen XY remake style Z game would have been better.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Agreed I was kinda hoping they would’ve been more creative with the wild areas. Like if it’s set in the future just have future technology create literal wild areas. Kinda lame that it just seems to be an abandoned street or alley way for Pokemon lol.

Yeah, like, there’s ways they could have done the future plan that wasn’t so dull.

Heck, since you have teleports…each Zone could have been a teleport door to a futuristic habitat zone.

Arceus had a much better feeling and reasoning for Zones.

 

[Anonitolia]

I don't know what to call it

corpo slop, New Snap Lite, Fluoride Stare Special, I can go on

why does A-Z look like a faggot now?

consequence of being French I'm afraid

 

[30+GameOvers]

lmfao it happened again

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Frankly, I just don't think Kalos has enough lore or nostalgia going for it to justify making this game, Isekai Diamond/Pearl with brand new Pokemon on the other hand was an awesome idea, especially with all the mythos of the region. Seems really forced, just dropping a next gen XY remake style Z game would have been better.

I disagree. Has plenty of Lore. But they then decide to set the game in the Present or Future instead of the past.

The entire game culminating with you trying to stop AZ from blowing up the world makes total sense, whilst giving a reason for Floette to ignore him for several thousand years, it partners with you.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Frankly, I just don't think Kalos has enough lore or nostalgia going for it to justify making this game,

There's enough people that look back on XY and think 'this could've been great with x or y' that I think GF can justify doing it to themselves, nevermind that none of this looks like anything most of those people have wanted for years. Most of those people are old amourshippers or just associate the 3DS era with being a better time anyways (not that that's a high bar), but given that Gamefreak hasn't even dangled Greninja in front of them I don't think any of them are going to be happy and this seems more like some pet project than an actual attempt to do Kalos right.

 

[30+GameOvers]

I disagree. Has plenty of Lore. But they then decide to set the game in the Present or Future instead of the past.

The entire game culminating with you trying to stop AZ from blowing up the world makes total sense, whilst giving a reason for Floette to ignore him for several thousand years, it partners with you.

Wait, this game takes place in the future? Hard pass for me, the only reason to make it somewhat interesting is if took place in the medieval or renaissance France.
Looking at it more, this game looks more like Palworld than Pokemon. What a joke, no wonder they seethe-sued. The only remotely interesting part of the game now is seeing how well it handles real-time combat, maybe they're experimenting with dropping the traditional turn based entirely for Gen 10.

 

[McMitch]

I’m reminded of another time TPC made a Pokémon game ostensibly based on a single metropolitan area:

 

[Anonitolia]

EDIT: some more info from the Z-A website:

just pointing out that I edited this post into a mega-post on the official site's content
gonna drop out of the thread for now since I need to go somewhere, go read this if you want more content
looks laaaaaaaame and gay since the only girl without shorts or pants is a 70 year old CEO

 

[UCT]

There's enough people that look back on XY and think 'this could've been great with x or y' that I think GF can justify doing it to themselves, nevermind that none of this looks like anything most of those people have wanted for years. Most of those people are old amourshippers or just associate the 3DS era with being a better time anyways (not that that's a high bar), but given that Gamefreak hasn't even dangled Greninja in front of them I don't think any of them are going to be happy and this seems more like some pet project than an actual attempt to do Kalos right.

Maybe im more optimistic because I didn’t like X/Y and didn’t even think a Z version would’ve made anything better. Again this is why if they are going to take so long, either show a shit ton or don’t say anything. This game could be awesome but now all we’ve seen is at most the first five minutes of the game and with no idea what we’re even doing here besides sightseeing. This game should’ve had a whole 19 minutes to itself, showing off the story, the gameplay and all that shit. Also why the fuck are those the starters! Arceus had a nice range but two fucking Johto starters? Seriously? Also if those two get new megas and my boy Typhlosion gets nothing I’m going to mace a GameStop employee in the face!

 

[chimpSculpture]

They wanted gen 2 starters but replaced Cyndaquil because it got cancelled.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Z-A vs Palworld vs Arceus.

Why did you use a beta Arceus screenshot?
The catch chance reticle is in the final, with green being a good chance, yellow iffy, red unable.

It looks like the same system is going to be used in ZA.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I’m reminded of another time TPC made a Pokémon game ostensibly based on a single metropolitan area:
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NYC (ACTUAL NYC) was the only thing they got right. The most obvious "wtf" moment being a literal fucking sandstorm desert next to it (which no, isn't a real thing).

The worst offender is Long Island, because it's basically Hoenn Pacifidlog Town 2 Electric Boogaloo. Like, how much of Long Island did they actually travel to, because it's not all JUST beaches and sand and docks and shit.

I love this game, but they could have done better on representing the locations a bit more accurately.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Maybe im more optimistic because I didn’t like X/Y and didn’t even think a Z version would’ve made anything better. Again this is why if they are going to take so long, either show a shit ton or don’t say anything. This game could be awesome but now all we’ve seen is at most the first five minutes of the game and with no idea what we’re even doing here besides sightseeing. This game should’ve had a whole 19 minutes to itself, showing off the story, the gameplay and all that shit. Also why the fuck are those the starters! Arceus had a nice range but two fucking Johto starters? Seriously? Also if those two get new megas and my boy Typhlosion gets nothing I’m going to mace a GameStop employee in the face!

There is zero chance Typhlosion is getting anything for a long time after those recent leaks lmfao

They wanted gen 2 starters but replaced Cyndaquil because it got cancelled.

There you go. Who the fuck even remembers Tepig? Everybody hated that thing for being the third Fire/Fighting starter in the row, should have brought one of the previous two instead.

This whole thing looks so...disappointing, I guess PLA was lighting in a bottle and all future attempts to ape it will be shit. I'm so glad I gave up on official games after USUM and started playing ROMhacks instead.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

See, it’s contrivances like this; where they had the initial idea of setting the game in one city without thinking ahead how to organically implement the core game setting of wandering into different locales to find Pokémon, that tells me this game isn’t going to be good.

Did they just kind of cede bits of the city to Pokemon? "Crap they're taking over this area, put up a fence!"

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Looking forward to the outrage when they announce that not all megas will be coming back.

It’s a Legends game in Kalos. I would not expect Megas not from those games unless the Mon was part of the Kalos Dex.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Typhlosion’s not getting anything because it was in the last one, not because of the leaks, don’t be retarded. Looks janky and don’t like the style but that’s just to be expected, biggest thing niggling at me is that weird teleport pad. You want a free-roaming city exploring game where you can run across rooftops and **that’s** the best way you can get players up a building? Assassin’s creed had this perfected twenty years ago.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

should have brought one of the previous two instead.

Thry should have done Snivy/Piplup and Torchic or Scorebunny. Cause France.

biggest thing niggling at me is that weird teleport pad. You want a free-roaming city exploring game where you can run across rooftops and **that’s** the best way you can get players up a building? Assassin’s creed had this perfected twenty years ago.

Heck, SV and LPA showed you how to do that. Give us a mon that can fly and climb.

 

[Archeops]

Kalos border before another new TCG announcement, except this one is for the actual TCG game. Return of megas as ex in 2025. Mega Lucario and Gardevoir announced.

This is something that a lot of us in the TCG scene expected, I guess Owner’s Pokémon won’t be a thing for too long. I’m not seeing a garbage turn-ending mechanic like the one Mega EXs had in Gen 6 but I did see that Mega exs give you three Prize cards for KOing ‘em.

new competitive MOBILE APP (also available on Switch) with SwSh models, seems to be a Stadium successor. Purely competitive. Includes Megas, Tera. Called "Pokemon Champions". "Now in development", developed by The Pokemon Works (planned by GF).

So this is the Pokémon Showdown “killer” huh? It looks interesting but I’ll need more info to make a proper decision on it being shit or not. Also, that bit about “not every HOME being usable in Champions” is probably about regulations and hacks.

Z-A news

This is a biggun so I’ll go with a list.

Spoiler

• Protagonists are completely different-looking to Serena and Calem, graphics are indeed SV style but dont look so shit.

This doesn’t surprise me, GF tends to stick to some artistic baseline with each Generation.

• Chikorita, Totodile, Tepig starters, yes really. Makes 0 sense and I'm very confused.

I’m fine with it if I’m being honest, I like two out of the three starters and I’m happy that stupid soccer rabbit got snubbed.

• Some weird shit to do with teleportation? You get to climb on buildings and glide across them or something.

Pokémon has had warping and teleportation since Gen 1, anyone questioning its presence here is should have their brain checked.

• Game looks super fucking plastic. Like holy shit I can't get over this, it's like a slighly worse LGPE.

Eh, it’s no more plasticine than SV was.

• Lots and lots of megas returning.

This doesn’t surprise me, I also wouldn’t be surprised if ORAS’s Megas came back.

• Younger A-Z with Eternal Floette.

I’ll bring this up in another section why but I don’t think AZ is younger here, he just looks like he decided to stop looking like a damned hobo.

• Zygarde 10% looking over the city, narration begins

Interesting but not too surprising, you can see a Zygarde Cell in the video too.

• Patrat confirmed lmaooo

If Patrat can come back then there’s some hope for the return of the elemental monkeys Don’t give me that look, you know you want to see Hot Monkay Dik on the Switch.

• High-tech redevelopment plan. Prism Tower is already there. Still seems to be set in the past.

The presence of a few things (the warp points, the Rotom Phone hovering, AZ popping up, etc.) tells me that this is set in the modern day.

• Character designs are fucking ridiculous, one dude has an entire fucking child's head for a hairstyle.

Considering SV’s character design I’m not too surprised by the designs

• Quasar Inc is who you're working for, I think? Bosses are unrecognizable. New people I think.

Yeah, they’re all new people since this is taking place in the current time. I wouldn’t be surprised of some of them have connections to past characters though.

• Lumiose has "wild zones", new habitats where Pokemon can thrive.

they look interesting but I’m not a fan of how they’re haphazardly slapped into the street layout. I would’ve liked them to be underground like BDSP’s Pokemon Hideaways were.

• BATTLES ARE COMPLETELY REAL-TIME. NO TURN-BASED.

This is interesting but like a lot of past spinoff gimmicks I don’t expect this to stick, especially when taking Champions into consideration

• 0 mention of new mmegas. Only returning ones shown.

This doesn’t surprise me since the trailer we got today should’ve been the one we got last year. Also, unless my memory’s fucked up then Hisuin Decidueye/Typhlosion/Samurott weren’t revealed until the game released. If we do get any new Megas then they’ll be revealed at Worlds this year.

• Megas have "C+" moves? no idea what that means

It’s probably something similar to PLA’s Agile/Strong Styles.

• STILL NO DEFINITIVE RELEASE DATE HAHAHAHA, just "late 2025"

I have a feeling that it’ll drops in October or November, that fits the “late” requirement but doesn’t miss out the holiday sales period.

• Penny phone ring at the end of Z-A announcement, with some weird thing about a "match announcement" or something?

It’s not Penny’s Rotom Phone since it’s in the default case (IIRC Penny uses the Eevee case) but the announcement is interesting since Lumiose Gym is locating inside Lumiose Tower.

TL;DR - the trailer was interesting but it still felt like a teaser trailer.