Strange things men do/have/endure with - Things guys put up with women just don’t get

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The fact that most of this thread is jokey says something about the topic that I can't really explain.
Being seen as disposable, and not having sexual abuse taken seriously is two things I have observed men deal with. Especially the second one, in a uniquely male way, it being assumed since you're a man that you're always horny so nothing is sexual abuse, if you were molested by a women as a child you were "lucky", etc
I wish guys felt more able to talk about their feelings to women. Its been a struggle to get my husband comfortable enough to admit and talk about things that I'd have no trouble talking about casually over breakfast. But I understand why.
I personally dont like talking about it cause it doesnt solve the issue at hand, whatever that issue is. And people generally dont care is my impression, thats one of those male centric lessons which men learn early on. The universe is indifferent to your successes and suffering, nobody cares about anybody else unless they have something to gain from it, in that case there is the pretense of caring (maybe Im just too cynical about things, sorry). Ive never met people irl who seem to care about what I seem to have to say for the most part and theres no point trying to tell people anything, much less serious things, if theyre indifferent to it. Its not fruitful.
 
sexual assault/harassment
My mother worked a rape case and the dude was so embarrassed because he was a guy that he just dropped all charges
ball getting stuck to your leg and having to walk funny to try and get it unstuck
Morning boners and how you have to bend and an angle to piss in the morning!

Also anybody else have a ball scratching brush?

Also also. Men can handle blunt talk. Particularly with absolute statements. Especially in regards to people. If you mention these things women tend to have to point out things like “actually not ALL Asians are short. The tallest man in the world is actually Chinese” Perhapse this is just the natural way women continue conversations. By making it more scatter brained. Idk
 
So the problem is that men didn't do enough.

Why do I need to be a White Knight when I'm not guilty of anything?
It's not about being a white knight, it's that the men who aren't guilty should call out those who are. You can't argue there is a large wedge between men and women at the moment that's been put there artificially and is being pushed further, one of the ways to fix it would be for good men to put down creepy men.

So we should physically hurt men because they said "nice tits"?
Would your just world have women get beaten up and kicked out of society for casual non-physical sexism?

This is my contribution to this thread:
Innocent men have to constantly be pressured to deal with guilty men and are often blamed for the actions of the guilty men.
It's also acceptable to advocate for physical violence against men in response to words.
There is a difference between a guy saying a woman has nice tits and a guy being a creep, we all know it, we've all seen it. If you are a man you either know the type I'm talking about or you are that type, we all encounter them, they are the ones who will take pictures of women in public or make rape jokes about teenage girls, etc.. Sexism has nothing to do with what I said, it's a breed of man who are pornsick to their core and often aren't white.

Innocent men aren't blamed for the actions of perverts, if you have been called a pervert by women, they are clearly picking up something in your behaviour that makes them associate you with that sort of rapey attitude
 
I know this thread isn't for woman hate, but you seem sincere so I'm going to get real for a second.

Women say they want us to talk about our feelings, but they really don't. They may think they do, they may have been told by society that they're supposed to, but they don't.

When men talk about their feelings with women, the BEST possible outcome is the woman offers superficial support while subconsciously thinking that the man is weak. At worst, the woman is deliberately lying and looking for something to use against you later. Every man instinctively knows this, but if we say it out loud we're accused of having soggy knees or whatever. That's why we don't talk about it, and why we don't talk about why we don't talk about it. Every woman thinks they'll be the exception, but I'm sorry, you probably aren't. Even if you've been married for 50 years, that's just not how it goes it real life.

I don't believe women are (usually) being malicious when they ask men to talk about their feelings. They just don't understand what they're actually asking for. I'm not even angry about it, it's just the way things are.
In my experience, you don’t even get that superficial support most of the time. Most of the women in my life (both friends and people I love) have had "I told you" so or "why don't you just get another job" type talks with me when I've had a particularly bad day at work. They are seldom shoulders to rest on, and because of that I don't even open up to the people I am close to by blood and bond.
 
In college I had a ball scratching brush. One day I didn’t close my doors all the way. And two of my friends entered into my room. The came out nonchalantly walking to the common area wearing one of my jackets and the other combing his hair. Trying to see how I’d react. I laughed so hard and told Dominic he was brushing his hair with my ballscratching brush. He just sighed and looked at the brush and said “I’d be mad if I didn’t also have one of those”
 
I've seen this come up in the thread, men talking about emotions. If you want to, but don't feel like you can, that's one thing. However, people, especially women, need to realize that not everyone wants to talk about their feelings, and that's not a flaw that needs to be overcome. For some people, doing so doesn't make them feel better at all. For some people, it just makes them feel worse. People process emotions differently. Not everyone's emotions get "bottled up" by not expressing them.

IRL, and online, I know how a lot of women try to force the narrative that men need to share and express their feelings. Well, they want everyone to, but single out men for being widely reluctant to, and try to find ways to get men to "open up". Some people, men much more so than women, don't like to discuss problems unless they can discuss actual solutions, rather than just venting and getting sympathy. Often times, if they already know that the conversion won't or can't be about solutions, they don't want it.
 
I've seen this come up in the thread, men talking about emotions. If you want to, but don't feel like you can, that's one thing. However, people, especially women, need to realize that not everyone wants to talk about their feelings, and that's not a flaw that needs to be overcome. For some people, doing so doesn't make them feel better at all. For some people, it just makes them feel worse. People process emotions differently. Not everyone's emotions get "bottled up" by not expressing them.

IRL, and online, I know how a lot of women try to force the narrative that men need to share and express their feelings. Well, they want everyone to, but single out men for being widely reluctant to, and try to find ways to get men to "open up". Some people, men much more so than women, don't like to discuss problems unless they can discuss actual solutions, rather than just venting and getting sympathy. Often times, if they already know that the conversion won't or can't be about solutions, they don't want it.
fucking nailed it, I rarely ever talk about my problems with people unless I'm trying to brainstorm a solution or just get an outside perspective on a given situation. Normally if im having issues in life, im actively working towards solving it, and to just sit around and talk about it just doesnt feel productive, it just feels like complaining for the sake of complaining, since I already have the solution, and I just need to execute.

In short, why talk about it, when I could be doing it?
 
One thing some women have a hard time grasping about men is just how quickly verbal confrontations between us can turn violent as well just how severe that violence can be. I usually see this come up in conversations regarding men challenging other men on their behaviours towards women, and while I do strongly believe that we have a moral responsibility to uphold and even enforce standards among ourselves, we also have to pick our battles sometimes as you never know when you'll be dealing with a dangerous psychopath that will react violently to even a minor slight.

Like yeah, you could call out the homeless crackhead that called some girl on the street a whore, and you'd even be right to, but would that be worth getting shivved in the kidneys? And even if you could handle him and come out the victor well if you live in Europe you now have the state coming down on you for instigating the confrontation in the first place.

Now obviously if the hobo in question was say directly threatening people then everything goes out the window as far as I'm concerned, but that entire nuance of assessing whether your actions will reduce the threat or just make it worse is something I've seen a lot of women in my own life just not understand.
 
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The "women most affected" meme is real.

We recently had an article that attempted to argue (in a very stupid and contrived way) that climate change needed to be dealt with because for one, it affected women the most.

That was a stupid case, but it presents itself in real life as well, and on the Internet very often, e.g: "War happens, thousands of men die, women most affected", it may happens as well in terms of security/safety in regards to sociopolitical decisions talked about later as examples.


The sexual abuse and prejudice men have to face; good luck if your female coworker/boss touches you inappropriately when you pass by for example, or having to deal with men-hating, cackling wine-moms at work talking about the most disgusting and sexist stuff.

That's not misandrist of course, if men do it it's misogynist though (both groups are retarded, but one seems more socially acceptable than the other).


Preferential treatment in court. The many cases that are not well known or at all, where the female offender will get a slap on the wrist by the system for some reason, instead of facing the proper consequence.

This is amplified in cases of disputes between men-women relationships or incidents, and I personally know of some cases where I have the info directly from the source instead of Internet bullshit or speculation.


Not being cared enough for in regards to safety or security as much as women. In some places they tried to give free taxi rides for women at night (they would have a specific card for it), in order to make their trip back home safe. But men also face danger at night, in some cases even more, yet nothing was thought of that.

No, let's give free rides to drunk women going home so that they can party until past midnight without needing to feel insecure, men? They can take care of themselves. The "streets are not safe, women most affected" bullshit.


The bullshit gender gap in salary, proposed as if it was done unconstitutionally or unlawfully, instead of other factors. When all the high charges are occupied with women though, that's not a problem.

The fact that there's discrimination against men (unjustifiably), which is the most prevalent type of discrimination I've seen in the workplace. As an example, denying a position to a man because they want specifically a women, but said job being able to be done by a man as well.

E.g: someone tried to be hired as a clerk selling some stuff in a store, in this case it was ice-cream, so in a store established on a building, they were not able because they only hired women, which in their country was technically considred discrimination, because they're being denied for inherent physical characteristics they have, while not being relevant to the position (like a model, or an actor/actress, etc, it was simply as a seller of a product that both men & women buy).

This was just an example, it extends to any type of clerk job in stores, or teleoperator jobs (you technically cannot discriminate based on sex here, even if you think that you prefer a "female voice" for this), waiters/waitresses, etc.


Some of the financial helps they get for hiring women in some places, and then you have to pretend that they're discriminated against. Again, it's a real life example where by law, on certain positions while being some sort of "intern", if the company decides to sign a contract with this person to work for them, if they happen to be women, the company is financially compensated in a higher degree (it's a bonifiaction given by the state to incentivize certain actions) for hiring the woman.


Financial help to women who supposedly were absued, but not for men. Again, gender violence against men doesn't exist, and you don't apply for this financial help if you were a man victim of domestic violence, it's just for women, victims of gender violence against women (the only type that exists).


I can go on, but let's stop.
 
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