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You already tried abstinence it failed miserably and currently you act like your libshit counterparts expecting people to act certain way because it offends your sensibilities and not be humans. We live in reality. Why can't people doesn't work in reality.
I'm not asking for abstinence. I'm demanding women be pickier with the men they let nut in them and am crafting laws that don't allow them to fuck losers. Letting a Lolcow loser nut in you, is something that you deserve to have your life ruined for. Sorry, if Tyroneus Maximus nuts in you, and you get pregnant, and he bounces, your life can and should be ruined for it to some degree. No tax dollars for single moms. If that means you can't let the Chad who gets all the bitches nut in you, good. Choose your partners more wisely.

The only concession I'm willing to make is giving women more power to fuck over Dead beat dads. Fuck it, throw em in jail for slave labor dollars. I'm game for that. There's nothing wrong with forcing women to choose men who will commit to them while simultaneously punishing those who don't.
 
God, I'm not going through 80 pages of faggotry, was the list released or not?
Negative ghost rider. Fbi in new york are being faggots and may or may not have destroyed the files years ago. What was released today was a shitton of flight logs and other shit that people on this thread much smarter than me are sifting through. Most of it we already knew however. Unfortunately for us all. This means fat packs has precisely one correct prediction on the board.
 
You already tried abstinence it failed miserably and currently you act like your libshit counterparts expecting people to act certain way because it offends your sensibilities and not be humans. We live in reality. Why can't people doesn't work in reality.
It's your personal responsibility to pay thousands and thousands to house the violent crack babies when they grow up, and it's your personal responsibility to not get robbed, raped, or murdered by them. So yes, child, it is perfectly reasonable to expect crackheads to take responsibility when they have sex.
I'm not asking for abstinence. I'm demanding women be pickier with the men they let nut in them and am crafting laws that don't allow them to fuck losers. Letting a Lolcow loser nut in you, is something that you deserve to have your life ruined for. Sorry, if Tyroneus Maximus nuts in you, and you get pregnant, and he bounces, your life can and should be ruined for it to some degree. No tax dollars for single moms. If that means you can't let the Chad who gets all the bitches nut in you, good. Choose your partners more wisely.
>expecting sub-85 IQ women to choose partners wisely
 
And I'm a father of 3.

Trying to force someone to pick between not paying shit to irresponsible parties or banning abortions is the epitome of a false dichotomy.

Let the babies live full stop, then argue about shanqueequa gibs. I'm all for sacrificing gibs to fund better oversight and care for abandoned children who can't be placed with close family.
Let another hood rat live a life of abuse? Let shit like this happen? Crack babies?
Half the people who get abortions are shit parents anyway. And you can't rely on foster care. Privatised abortion kits would be a much better solution than $100 medical procedures. We already have contraceptives anyway. It'd piss less people off.
 
God, I'm not going through 80 pages of faggotry, was the list released or not?
No. Pam Bondi sent what she had to a bunch of streamer faggots, likely suggested by Elon, to slow roll out release of documents that don't matter a la Twitter Files 2.0. Except even less useful this time. Instead, the FBI in NY went full treason and probably shredded and Bleach Bitted every server and computer that the Epstein Docs ever touched. The list is likely permanently gone. Which is now finally a true test for the Trump administration and we'll get to see whether Trump is willing to have any teeth about this or not. Either way, Bondi is pissed. Patel is on the hook, and we'll find out in the next few days if Trump 2.0 has any balls or not.

Why? Because it's also highly likely the rumor of FBI agents vowing to sell out the US to Russia or China if Trump comes after them are the same FBI Agents in the NY office who did all of the Epstein documents shredding.
 
What was released today was a shitton of flight logs and other shit that people on this thread much smarter than me are sifting through.
we even have that?
I thought we had photos of the cover of the binder, online people saying "dude it's like, dude" and that old FBI site of stuff from a release years ago?
 
DC_Draino is here to save the day! He's posting what's in the binder on his live stream and not quickly taking a HD picture of each page to upload on his X account. That's fine though; since he's streaming in 720p, we'll be able to read it together. Here we go!

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Unfortunately I'm retarded and can't figure out how to download the broadcast. Not like it matters, since you can't make out anything.

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is the idea of people actually taking accountability for having sex and creating children really so inconceivable to you that you would prefer to increase the amount of abortions instead? why is abstinence before you're prepared for a child wrong in your eyes?

I think what shes saying us you'll have to pay for them in some way. Poor people don't just dissolve away when you stop giving them your money. They turn wherever they live into hell and shit all over everything. And then the poorer but working normal people have to live next to them while the mega poor steal their shit and they wonder why richer people won't just throw some money at them to make it stop.

Poor people will never just fuck off and die. People in the Philippines search for chicken wings in the trash and sell it to people for dinner. That's what you're advocating for in America. And unless youre in a self sufficient cabin in TN somewhere youre gonna have to deal with them. So you might want to reassess.
 
This is completely retarded. If personal responsibility is so important, people without it should be reproducing less, not more, and blameless children should not be subjected to terrible lives as some kind of cosmic punishment for the sins of their parents. If you want to really want to morally grandstand about how chaste women should be, the appropriate punishment would be forced abortion and sterilization (sterilization for both involved parties).

I mean, what's the logic here? Somebody does something irresponsible, and because they suffer as a result, that means the result is inherently just? So is suicide bombing A-OK in your book because the perpetrator is killed as "punishment"? (In this comparison, the child whose life is doomed from the start is analogous to the victims of the suicide bomber.)
what are you talking about? I specifically worded my post about how it requires both a man and a woman to create a baby and both of them should exercise personal responsibility. why are you angry at me? all i said was that I didn't like abortion as an answer to being personally, sexually irresponsible. i didn't blame women or men specifically. women are pressured by men into abortions all the time, and it's sickening. if you're a man, you should keep your dick firmly in your pants unless you are ready to raise a family

And you realize none of this shit happens in reality? Yeah? You realize the hood exists? You know teenagers still knock each other up? I met a few pregnant black women in high school. You're spouting hypothetical moral olympics rather than what constantly happens regardless of government interference or your moral compass. People who have sex tend to not think about all of this shit that you do even with warnings. 2/3 of you EXIST because your parents didn't follow this shit you believe in.
yeah that would be my criticism. those people are morally wrong. they are creating a child who will in this scenario suffer. the ideal scenario would be that people start becoming more responsible with their sexual proclivities. the fact that this is all i said and you've all reacted as if i said all women should be executed for getting pregnant out of wedlock is very telling.
 
I do consider this ordeal a fuck up. Why did Pam act like she had all of the files, only now we find out she apparently only had 200 pages of information that is mostly stuff we already know? She should have known from the start that 200 pages is too low and that it isn't all the files. She should have raised hell rather than going on Fox News acting like she has everything. The influencer photo op doesn't help matters, it looks tone deaf and cringy given the seriousness of these files.

Here is what Laura Loomer reported as happening. I know she's a lolcow but sometimes she's right:

Having spoken with several sources inside the White House meetings today, I can report what I believe to be an accurate version of events regarding the release of the so-called ‘Epstein Files: Phase 1,’ which turned out to be a re-release of information that has mostly been known for several years.

One of the more intriguing details of today is that President Donald J. Trump himself was in a room with these binders containing Epstein’s flight and phone call logs. One of the pages even contained President Trump’s name, having been listed in Epstein’s phone book.

Again, that information is not new. But it is embarrassing for the White House, the vast majority of which is unlikely to have had any eyes on the documents handed to social media influencers who believed they were attending a simple series of policy briefings today.

Instead, Attorney General Pam Bondi and her team are being blamed very clearly in at least six conversations I’ve had this afternoon. Again, they gave no heads-up to either the influencers attending or White House staff about their intentions to distribute binders of information that contained little new information, frustrating both the administration and the general public.

Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna took to social media this afternoon to express her frustration at the situation, given she has been at the forefront of getting this information released to the public for years and, again, was not briefed in advance of the situation.

I understand that a number of high-profile figures met with social media influencers this morning in another White House initiative to integrate alternative media and voices into the Trump administration’s media distribution channels.

The morning meetings included stops by Vice President J.D. Vance and President Donald Trump. Social media influencers also had a quick tour of the Oval Office, where FBI Director Kash Patel, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, and other members of the Cabinet and senior administration officials were present. President Trump is understood to have handed out White House memorabilia such as Presidential Challenge Coins and pens.

As the group moved from the Oval Office, several of the influencers present held up their binders for the assembled press, most of whom were there to cover the British Prime Minister’s visit to the White House.

Only after this media moment were the social media influencers told that AG Bondi did not want the public to know about the distribution of the binders, a caveat that came too late. One of the sources I spoke to called the entire incident a “clusterfuck,” with many of them resenting the fact that social media influencers are getting the blame for not releasing more information when they were asked not to, but only after the assembled media had taken pictures and video of them.

Rather than a conspiracy by the social media influencers, this event looks to have been a failed attempt to curry social media favor by AG Bondi, who scrambled on Thursday afternoon to demand the FBI release more files. This despite her claiming that she had the Epstein client lists “on her desk” in an interview with Jesse Watters of Fox News this week.

The incident speaks more to a cock-up or blunder by the AG and her team than anything else. The National Pulse has also verified that little to no new information is contained in the binders, suggesting again that this was more of a failed public relations stunt.

N.B. I should note that I was invited to the White House, not for this event, but for the UK-US official meeting. I was unable to attend due to prior commitments.
 
we even have that?
I thought we had photos of the cover of the binder, online people saying "dude it's like, dude" and that old FBI site of stuff from a release years ago?
It's mostly what we got before. But 200 pages is a bit much for just the old flight logs. There's gotta be something else in there.
DC_Draino is here to save the day! He's posting what's in the binder on his live stream and not quickly taking a HD picture of each page to upload on his X account. That's fine though; since he's streaming in 720p, we'll be able to read it together. Here we go!

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Unfortunately I'm retarded and can't figure out how to download the broadcast. Not like it matters, since you can't make out anything.
Especially if it looks like that jesus christ on a cross.
 
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