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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
I'm not bri'ish but beyond my racism this probably the actual number 1 reason I hate immigration. Just more and more people stuffed in the same place, using the same foundational infrastructure that hasn't expanded or even has contracted. I understand capitalism shits the bed without endless growth but I'd be fine with a couple generations of negative population growth if the reality was a +90% white population and zero immigration, even with the consequences. Theres too many people in the world and I hate the concrete jungle and endless cars.
The majority of cities here haven't expanded their walking space probably ever since they were first founded, at least a few hundred years for most. Core infrastructure like trains and buses also haven't been improved for at least 20-30 years.

Most paths are designed to allow 2 people to walk side by side, with a surprising amount in cities like York only being wide enough for one person.

It just makes it extremely unpleasant and chaotic to attempt to even walk anywhere at any slightly busy time of the week. Forget weekends. I was in York recently on a sunny saturday and it was a complete nightmare trying to walk anywhere.

Problem is we simply don't have the space to expand, so it makes our immigration policy look even more ridiculous.
 
It just makes it extremely unpleasant and chaotic to attempt to even walk anywhere at any slightly busy time of the week. Forget weekends. I was in York recently on a sunny saturday and it was a complete nightmare trying to walk anywhere.
I used to live in York, and yeah it gets retardedly busy, especially down the old street and the market area in town. I was in Reading recently, and fuck me that places is bad for it as well.
 
No, sorry Karen but that's a completely retarded take. One is an internal schism of a age old religion of the country, one is a foreign, invasive religion of an age old enemy...For, err, for clarities sake, Islam is the second one. Not the first.
I know Islam is not the same, I do think of all of the religious groups it is by far the least compatible with British life.

I'm not saying claiming to be Muslim and living an otherwise western life makes sense, or that most of them do. Enough of them do, and there are countries like Albania where relatively few actually practice what they claim to believe. Muslims in the UK shun intoxicants, Muslims in Kosovo on the other hand can't be kept away from the stuff.

I know it's much easier to maintain a culture of permissive irreligiosity than to impose a state religion. The goal isn't to bring about dogmatic orthodoxy to me, it should be to establish British orthopraxy above it.

Belief follows on after practice, not the other way around. Its easier making the alternative more appealing than enforcement.
 
Is there any method that might make people self deport? The only thing i can think of is removal of benefits
No, but it might make them head for other parts of Europe or Canada. But they'll never leave white countries unless they are literally forced to leave. They don't want to live around their own people.

Paris is full of homeless blacks and browns sleeping in the streets. I saw homeless browns sleeping in doorways in the nicest part of Galway Ireland. There was a documentary about a group of men from the Palestinian settlements of Lebannon who chose to be unemployed squatters in Paris even though they had their own apartments and jobs back home.
 
I know what you're saying, but I can also see someone quite accurately pointing out that until as recently as the 90s in parts of the UK Catholicism was very much not tolerated and it was widely deemed impossible to be both Catholic and properly British.
Those people are retarded. Brits fighting Brits has happened for centuries. Anyone using that excuse should be deported to the Congo.
Muslims in the UK shun intoxicants,
With all due respect, you show your lack of knowledge when it comes to both Islam and British Muslims. There are 'Allahs blindspots' in certain bars in Manchester where youthful muzzies go and get hammered for the weekend, while they all 'nudge-nudge, wink-wink' one-another.
Those who don't drink smoke weed, which, FYI, if you ever want the best weed, buy it from a Paki. Their shit is grades above anything else.
And what if you're not Protestant/Catholic/Christian or Muslim?
Then you're either a problem, or a chill religion like Buddhist and you can come in.
 
With all due respect, you show your lack of knowledge when it comes to both Islam and British Muslims. There are 'Allahs blindspots' in certain bars in Manchester where youthful muzzies go and get hammered for the weekend, while they all 'nudge-nudge, wink-wink' one-another.
Oh, I know that. I'm going by what they say. Catholics 99% of the time here don't even try to hide that they have pre marital sex or are on the pill, Muslims here likewise get shitfaced but unlike Catholics will lie through their teeth and scream blue murder if you suggest they're anything but the perfect devotee. I've seen the same twat campaign against a bar opening because booze is bad, but also spotted them drinking at a private work event.

If you go see Muslims in the Balkans, or even places like urban parts of Turkey its very upfront and there's no attempt to even pretend its something they don't do.

Oh, I assumed he meant some other random religion, not a 'none.'
He might have, but this is the issue that cropped into my mind when we start talking about Christianity being the religion of the UK.

The UK is, by strange accident of history, one of the last three Christian Theocracies, and the only major western country with a state religion. (For note, the other two are The Vatican City State and Andorra by virtue of one of the two Co-Princes always being a Catholic Archbishop).

At the very same time, it is a Theocracy in name only, that Catholics outnumber both of its state religions combined, and "nones" outnumber them all.

It's a Christian country only in the most technical sense, and was notoriously irreligious even a couple of centuries ago, so I always get very skeptical when we talk about a return to Christian culture when most of the population probably doesn't avowedly want but would be more receptive to a return to Cultural Christian Secularism than to some tradcore faith that wasn't as widespread as we'd like to think.
 
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Agnostic, Athiest and Non-Religious. The largest demographic within the UK.

There are more "Nones" than Christians.
In the west, these are usually offshoots of Christianity (as Dawkins said that not long ago, even he is a cultural Christian). Just take the Christ out and don't think too much about the logical consequences.
 
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