Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

[Kari Kamiya]

Libfems who got raised on Sailor Moon and Utena

I literally knew no one who was raised on Utena. Utena only got big within the last decade because Tumblr, and this chick is not older enough to have been "raised" on Utena when it got popular recognized.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

> kiddie calarts art style and plot
>"shit ass fuck fuck" inserted randomly in the script for no reason

Nigga, do you want your pilot to be stuck in an eternal development hell? This clash of cynical milennial smugness you call humour with child-friendly aesthetics will guarantee to turn everyone off.

Hazbin Hotel and its consequences have been a disaster for indie animation. Or to go even deeper than that, this goes all the way back to Tumblr at it's peak. This was generally the kind of aesthetic Tumblr paraded back in the day. They made cute webcomics with obscene language and they just ate it up.

 

[YWNBAM]

I literally knew no one who was raised on Utena. Utena only got big within the last decade because Tumblr, and this chick is not older enough to have been "raised" on Utena when it got popular recognized.

Jeez am I that old
Imo Utena influenced many teen tumblr girls back in the day and got them on the "being a lesbian is cool and liberating" trend. I remember liking it back then for the art style and some interesting themes, but the woke crowd only mentions it having gays and girl boss who doesn't need no prince. Wooow, so subversive, it's not like those other shoujo shows.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Jeez am I that old
Imo Utena influenced many teen tumblr girls back in the day and got them on the "being a lesbian is cool and liberating" trend. I remember liking it back then for the art style and some interesting themes, but the woke crowd only mentions it having gays and girl boss who doesn't need no prince. Wooow, so subversive, it's not like those other shoujo shows.

Western teen girls are retarded and have no learning/reading comprehension, and they probably only saw the movie and not watched the 39 episodes where lesbianism wasn't exactly a theme. FFS the show has more gay subtext than lesbo subtext, and that's because Juri was the only true(?) lesbian in the show.

 

[The_Gam3]

Turns out that Jessiefag sheboon put out her Magicgirl anime slop full of niggers.

Unpopular opinion, but that was pretty well made. I expected alot worse but it had a unique premise I wouldn't mind sticking around for. But its not really for me specifically sooooo .... idk.

 

[Lil Miku]

I want to go through and find out what magical girls shows she's plagiarized/ripped off, but I don't want to give her views.

EDIT: Almost five minutes in, and the one chick is clearly reading Sailor Moon. LAME.
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STAR WAND. NOT EVEN HIDING IT.
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I know I've seen this movement, I just can't get a face for the character, but I'm still thinking Sailor Moon especially since she poses as such at the end.
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Pretty pretty please stop ripping off an over 30 year old anime and start using some other more recent magical girl show, there are loads of them. (I see she kinda did the with Madoka-looking skirt in Aika's magical girl form.)

 

[starborn427614]

Unpopular opinion, but that was pretty well made. I expected alot worse but it had a unique premise I wouldn't mind sticking around for. But its not really for me specifically sooooo .... idk.

I like the art style, but if I want magical girl shows I'll just watch Pretty Cure.

 

[Unnecessary Surgery Land]

That Magical Girl pilot was so absurdly mid. Like perfectly mid.

Very boring, very predictable. But because “uwu black” it’s going to get a billion accolades.

But it had absolutely nothing special about it.

 

[KingLiberty76]

Oh, it's nothing noteworthy. He just holds the opinions you'd expect from a showrunner in LA. Long gone are his days of being an angsty edgelord comic book artist, which is okay, I guess. Everyone's gotta grow up sometime.

Afaik, he's very normal. No drama.

basically just a liberal from 20 years ago who didn't let politics destroy his brain.

 

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[Colon capital V]

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Having a troon/nigger/gay character is corporate proofing though?

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Turns out that Jessiefag sheboon put out her Magicgirl anime slop full of niggers.

LoL, niggers.

Nigga, do you want your pilot to be stuck in an eternal development hell? This clash of cynical milennial smugness you call humour with child-friendly aesthetics will guarantee to turn everyone off.

I've lurked around the author's Tumblr blog and, of course, she's one of those tards who likes to put lesbians in mahou shoujo, a genre that's all about friendship, platonic bonds between female characters and cool male love interests. Libfems who got raised on Sailor Moon and Utena are such soulless npcs, it's insane how they mock and twist what they claim to love.

Well, you know - how would they be qUiRkY otherwise?!?!

Oh God, this is going to be High Guardian Spice v2.0 all over again, isn't it?

I hope so, that way we can laugh at the failure.

Hazbin Hotel and its consequences have been a disaster for indie animation. Or to go even deeper than that, this goes all the way back to Tumblr at it's peak. This was generally the kind of aesthetic Tumblr paraded back in the day. They made cute webcomics with obscene language and they just ate it up.

Pretty much. No wonder you got crap like FCK H8 doing campaigns like this shit, and also cartoons as well. Then again, it's fitting for a negress.

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>casting not an issue.
The Triad gang in Grand Theft Auto III has a quote when you attempt to run them over and they get out of the way: "Hey, get your eyes checked!!". Certainly this person needs to do this. "Deadling" especially (then again, "dead" must be a dead-ringer to it's brain).

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Turns out that Jessiefag sheboon put out her Magicgirl anime slop full of niggers.

It's alright imo, i honestly wouldn't mind if this became a full series but god i just know this will create the most toxic fanbase ever.

 

[Newcomer 42]

I remember reading a 4chan screencap once that stated the reason why media, not just cartoons, sucks nowadays is because people just aren't experiencing actual real life stuff happening to them.

If you remember, many works of the 90s and early 00s referenced pop culture back then along with stuff you could feel it mattered to the writers. Now, there's only pop culture at best, Marvelitis writing at worst.

I feel the "shift" towards appealing to the Internet over "general audiences" was definitely was a factor here. Albeit, during the days of Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Gravity Falls, you could argue those shows marked the beginning of being geared towards "the Internet", and that's what made them so popular.

I always had a dislike of these kind of terribad art style since I saw it for the first time. What's funny is that the starters of this trend, Gravity Falls and Gumball, were actually good! Alas, they got worse over time.
If that wasn't bad enough, another thing I noticed is how many modern shows are actively disrespectful of classic ones, such as the nu-Titans insulting the OG show.

A major point I see brought up every now and then is that the people who made media for kids should have kids themselves. Otherwise, you have a bunch of childless people making stuff in an attempt to stroke their own egos. Tumblr's done a lot of things to """society""", but one of the big ones was making its generation averse to family, whether that's being a part of one, or wanting to start one.

At least Tumblr worked to keep these "people" contained. With Tumblr gone, they're everywhere.

 

[Chromeo]

If you remember, many works of the 90s and early 00s referenced pop culture back then along with stuff you could feel it mattered to the writers. Now, there's only pop culture at best, Marvelitis writing at worst.

I forget which video person said this, but I saw a video discussing why Shrek's pop culture references worked and other movies' didn't. The gist of it was the reference needs to be funny/make sense even if someone watching doesn't get the reference. Shrek sees a poster of Sir Justin in Fiona's childhood bedroom and gets sad because he's not a handsome human prince, and that makes sense whether or not you know who Justin Timberlake is. Or for a more recent example; Deadpool dancing to Bye Bye Bye establishes his character not taking Wolverine or the fight he was in seriously and is in character, whereas She-Hulk twerking to some rap song doesn't mean anything and doesn't do anything for the character or plot. There were dumb pop culture references in the 90s and 00s too, but by and large creators understood that not everyone would get a reference so they had better make it decent enough that someone who doesn't get the reference wouldn't be bored/left out of the joke.

 

[Newcomer 42]

There were dumb pop culture references in the 90s and 00s too, but by and large creators understood that not everyone would get a reference so they had better make it decent enough that someone who doesn't get the reference wouldn't be bored/left out of the joke.

Even earlier than that. I remember a short of a Bugs Bunny cartoon where he references an ad to make a gag about ice IIRC. Said ad is no longer a thing and it's impossible to get nowadays. But the gag is still funny.

I'm also perhaps being a bit old, but I also dislike that trend of EVERY chapter being a part of a long-term plot (That sometimes doens't fully pay off). I preferred it when episodes where self-contained stories along with the "specials" that had several episodes tied together.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

I'm also perhaps being a bit old, but I also dislike that trend of EVERY chapter being a part of a long-term plot (That sometimes doens't fully pay off). I preferred it when episodes where self-contained stories along with the "specials" that had several episodes tied together.

I feel this is a defacto consequence of the rise of the Internet. The current year™ Internet created this ecosystem where you have an entire generation of content creators built on the backs of speculating about new shows, movies, or games, and the content in the upcoming iterations of them. It's what created the "and get excited for next product" part of that one RedLetterMedia meme, and why post-credits scenes in movies are as popular as they are post-Marvel. Basically, the company makes the product, social media talks about the product, and YouTubers speculate about the product which generates even more buzz around it. Rinse and repeat until the series finale or if the show jumps the shark.

I certainty would like a few more shows that stay self-contained and don't do much in the way of over-arching plots, but then that would just upset the content pipeline, and eventually drive certain kinds of people insane.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I feel this is a defacto consequence of the rise of the Internet. The current year™ Internet created this ecosystem where you have an entire generation of content creators built on the backs of speculating about new shows, movies, or games, and the content in the upcoming iterations of them.

Didn't Adventure Time start this, or even A:TLA? Adventure Time alone came off as an episodic show at first only to then develop lore and such, so it got fans making speculations, and now it's practically expected for every cartoon now (that's not a long-runner) to have a plot and to give answers to fan speculation lest you get angry flaming letters Twitter threads about it.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

Didn't Adventure Time start this, or even A:TLA? Adventure Time alone came off as an episodic show at first only to then develop lore and such, so it got fans making speculations, and now it's practically expected for every cartoon now (that's not a long-runner) to have a plot and to give answers to fan speculation lest you get angry flaming letters Twitter threads about it.

Serialized shows have been a thing for a long time, though in the world of TV Animation, Avatar is definitely what helped popularize it. Adventure Time was, IIRC, loosely connected at first with a world lore that was built upon over time, while Gravity Falls was full-on plot-based. I'd say GF is what ultimately popularized the format from 2012/2013 onwards, but I could be forgetting something.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Serialized shows have been a thing for a long time, though in the world of TV Animation, Avatar is definitely what helped popularize it. Adventure Time was, IIRC, loosely connected at first with a world lore that was built upon over time, while Gravity Falls was full-on plot-based. I'd say GF is what ultimately popularized the format from 2012/2013 onwards, but I could be forgetting something.

The Last Airbender was generally episodic "trouble/adventure of the week" with an overarching plotline moving along as they went. Which is the kind of approach I prefer for series in general. There's space for development and callbacks, but it's not "fuck you if you didn't watch the last episode". By the time they made Legend of Korra it was full-on plot-driven and you'd miss out on way more if you skipped or didn't pay attention to a specific episode.