The Elder Scrolls

[Sheogorath]

Tbh, the way I've come to understand it is that Ulfric is useful in the sense that if he wins and drives out the empire then Skyrim will be ripe for the Thalmor to just come in and curbstomp them and take Skyrim by force due to the simple fact that the Stormcloaks are just woefully weaker than the Thalmor forces.

So in the long run leaving the empire in charge makes more sense they at least have a chance of fighting back later on if the Thalmor decide to try some shit.
That's just my take though.

Ulfric is just a useful idiot to them because if he wins, they win.

NEVER READ THE DOSSIER AWARD

 

[Bob Barbas]

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NEVER READ THE DOSSIER AWARD

I still feel like the Stormcloaks would be easier to fight than the Empire.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I still feel like the Stormcloaks would be easier to fight than the Empire.

If they use guerrilla warfare, maybe not.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

If they use guerrilla warfare, maybe not.

Please, it's easy as pie to defeat a fanatical enemy in a religious war in a rural, mountainous country with little support from most of the population. Look at how well the US did in Afghanistan! Or how well the Soviets did there as well! Or how well the British did there!

 

[Core Theorist]

Please, it's easy as pie to defeat a fanatical enemy in a religious war in a rural, mountainous country with little support from most of the population. Look at how well the US did in Afghanistan! Or how well the Soviets did there as well! Or how well the British did there!

>tfw the caves start speaking dovahzul

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Please, it's easy as pie to defeat a fanatical enemy in a religious war in a rural, mountainous country with little support from most of the population. Look at how well the US did in Afghanistan! Or how well the Soviets did there as well! Or how well the British did there!

Araucanians drove off the Spanish Empire for a long time using the same tactics... in 1550-1600 A.C.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

>tfw the caves start speaking dovahzul

Now I want a mod that changes all the dragon shouts into Arabic. I want to yell "Allahu Akbar!" instead of fus ro dah.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Please, it's easy as pie to defeat a fanatical enemy in a religious war in a rural, mountainous country with little support from most of the population. Look at how well the US did in Afghanistan! Or how well the Soviets did there as well! Or how well the British did there!

You know what? That's actually a pretty fair point, like genuinely.

 

[Übertroon]

Please, it's easy as pie to defeat a fanatical enemy in a religious war in a rural, mountainous country with little support from most of the population. Look at how well the US did in Afghanistan! Or how well the Soviets did there as well! Or how well the British did there!

All those nations didn't go full genocide mode on the locals.
I don't think the Thalmor are above unleashing Oblivion upon Skyrim to see it scoured

 

[Deus Exica]

I still feel like the Stormcloaks would be easier to fight than the Empire.

The Empire is totally infested with fag politicians and Thalmor agents. There will be no second war with The Empire because the Empire is already a vassal state of The Thalmor. Elf niggers also immediately lost control of Hammerfell and can't manage to retake it once they stopped letting The Empire run their shit.

Ulfric is not a Thalmor asset in the traditional sense. He cut a deal with them once. The Thalmor want the war to continue in perpetuity so humanity is distracted killing each other. If he was truly an asset his goal would be to force stalemate as long as possible, not winning the actual war.

don't think the Thalmor are above unleashing Oblivion upon Skyrim to see it scoured

They already have mostly free reign to terrorize and murder citizens as they see fit. If they had the manpower to scorched earth the entire country they'd have done it already. But they can't, they have to do faggot espionage for a reason.

 

[Übertroon]

They already have mostly free reign to terrorize and murder citizens as they see fit. If they had the manpower to scorched earth the entire country they'd have done it already. But they can't, they have to do faggot espionage for a reason.

Well as it is the Thalmor can't move against Skyrim because if they invaded they would just unite both factions against a common threat.
The plan is to keep the civil war going while they make another attempt on Cyrodil or Hammerfell.
If either of those fall and Skyrim stands alone then the Thalmor likely wins

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Well as it is the Thalmor can't move against Skyrim because if they invaded they would just unite both factions against a common threat.
The plan is to keep the civil war going while they make another attempt on Cyrodil or Hammerfell.
If either of those fall and Skyrim stands alone then the Thalmor likely wins

One of the Thalmor literally tried to undo creation. If the Thalmor had the power to do that to even a single country, they would have already done it in name of returning to Aetherius or whatever it is they hope to do by unmaking Nirn.

 

[Deus Exica]

Well as it is the Thalmor can't move against Skyrim because if they invaded they would just unite both factions against a common threat.

Only insofar as Skyrim is still considered part of the Empire, and even then, I highly doubt The Empire would do anything except roll over as they had done for almost every other time the elves demanded it.

 

[God of Nothing]

Man, I loved the Elder Kings mod. And I've been feeling CK2 lately. I just wish there was a lot more events between characters and family members. Really more events in general to get that peculiar mysticism of the setting down. Conquering Tamriel as a Reach trueblooded vampire with a dwarven cannon to demolish all castle walls was an experience. Plus, lording over all the other races and gradually REACHING them.

 

[Chin of Campbell]

Okay, okay, you've convinced me. What else can I look forwards to?

There are quite a few quests to do, even outside of the main story, but the highlights include delving into a Direnni ruin that ends up housing a portal to Apocrypha, cultists opening an Oblivion gate to Namira's realm in the middle of one of the towns and you have to do a Sigil Stone run, stopping previously-mentioned Orc-rape-baby-owner from getting a Forsworn abortion that explodes her head and turns her fetus into an invisible Dunwitch Horror-style demon, and potentially feeding a little girl to a gryphon (you can prevent this though). There's a lot of crazy shit to see, but there's also plenty of the usual "go here and do thing" stuff and a few assaults on enemy encampments.

For loreheads wondering about how the one of those is pulled off, it's hand-waved as being possible because so many of the towers stabilizing Mundus being disabled or destroyed in one way or another by the time of Skyrim.

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

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I'll be honest with you all: I'm excited.

I do have one major gripe: Skyrim didn't have classes either. Did Starfield have classes? I guess Starfield had classes, huh. I certainly hope "better combat" is by Starfield standards, by the way; I do NOT want magic to do the same damage as Starfield's guns.

Settlement building sounds kinda fun for a medieval setting (at least when it's not Ubisoft doing it), naval combat sounds cool (at least when it's not Ubisoft doing it), and I kinda wanna see how they do the post-Skyrim story in the region. I also want to see them add another playable (or at least NPC class), perhaps some undersea elves (the current sea elves suck) or some giants or some giant-goblin-men.

If the 4th Orsinium (said to be on Hammerfell's border with Skyrim) isn't in this game, I'm going to be displeased. On that note, I hope there's a main questline to either bring Hammerfell back into the Empire or drag High Rock out of it... and I hope it's more action-packed than Starfield's questlines.

EDIT: Island and underwater exploration is probably going to be of Yokuda, the continent that the first Redguards destroyed with their sword-magic... or maybe what's left of that stupid Maormer (sea elf) continent that the sea has cut off from Tamriel, though that's supposed to be further south. Maybe we can check out some remnants of Dreugh civilization and/or Left-Handed Elf civilization, too.

The source is some fucking pile of symbols, though:
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So shitty ship combat from Starfield, the final death blow for class variety and boring pointless settlement building from Fallout 4. Great.

 

[foreman 89]

There are quite a few quests to do, even outside of the main story, but the highlights include delving into a Direnni ruin that ends up housing a portal to Apocrypha, cultists opening an Oblivion gate to Namira's realm in the middle of one of the towns and you have to do a Sigil Stone run, stopping previously-mentioned Orc-rape-baby-owner from getting a Forsworn abortion that explodes her head and turns her fetus into an invisible Dunwitch Horror-style demon, and potentially feeding a little girl to a gryphon (you can prevent this though). There's a lot of crazy shit to see, but there's also plenty of the usual "go here and do thing" stuff and a few assaults on enemy encampments.

For loreheads wondering about how the one of those is pulled off, it's hand-waved as being possible because so many of the towers stabilizing Mundus being disabled or destroyed in one way or another by the time of Skyrim.

The mod really should have leaned much more into being an ASOIAF style gritty political, human story rather than incorporating esoteric nonsense from teslore and having the story degenerate into a confusing mess. Watch this video to just see how the story goes off the rails at the asylum - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSxBx96uXc&ab_channel=Cotho.

 

[Cryptojew]

literally delivering a child to a sex cult???

I remember that quest only because it took me a decade of owning Skyrim to actually discover it. I had always just assumed the Temple of Dibella wasn't worth breaking into. What's funny is when I finally did do the Dibella quest, I was also in the middle of the Molag Baal quest and the little girl and the priest of Boethia ended up radiently spawning in the same foresworn dungeon and were locked in the cell together. I wonder what they talked about in there.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I remember that quest only because it took me a decade of owning Skyrim to actually discover it. I had always just assumed the Temple of Dibella wasn't worth breaking into. What's funny is when I finally did do the Dibella quest, I was also in the middle of the Molag Baal quest and the little girl and the priest of Boethia ended up radiently spawning in the same foresworn dungeon and were locked in the cell together. I wonder what they talked about in there.

Girl: "I'm called by Dibella herself".
Priest: "The fucking celestial whore? I'll bet Boethia kick her ass".

 

[God of Nothing]

Girl: "I'm called by Dibella herself".
Priest: "The fucking celestial whore? I'll bet Boethia kick her ass".

I remember that quest only because it took me a decade of owning Skyrim to actually discover it. I had always just assumed the Temple of Dibella wasn't worth breaking into. What's funny is when I finally did do the Dibella quest, I was also in the middle of the Molag Baal quest and the little girl and the priest of Boethia ended up radiently spawning in the same foresworn dungeon and were locked in the cell together. I wonder what they talked about in there.

real question is what were the forsworn doing