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What is to be done in the meantime to offset the high prices consumers will face?
Get rid of sales tax, get rid of income tax, don’t buy a fucking foreign made car.

Here in the US we have fish, grain, meat, vegetables, fruit, dairy. We have a bunch of other resources as well other than food. Maybe don’t buy that Mercedes or don’t buy that funko pop. Any fucking price would be completely offset in the long-term. And also, other countries do the same shit to us so why are we taking it up the ass from them?
I asked first, so answer my question first.
The importer temporarily takes a hit but in the long-term makes a far greater profit.
 
The tariff conversation is stupid. If I give you $100 and you give me $10 I have a deficit of $90. If we stop giving each other money, I necessarily will be in a better position because I keep that $90. You are necessarily worse because you no longer get that money. This is assuming you were even giving me $10 because guess what, the EU doesn't buy our products. There is no mathematical way for tariffs to hurt the United States.
 
Me personally I would’ve waited for things to seemingly improve for the average American before the tariffs, but Trump seems to be speedrunning his second term.
If the $500bn investment proposal from Apple to America is any indication, it looks like the effect of the tariffs are working as intended. I don't believe (or, rather HOPE) that Trump WANTS to enact tariffs itself, it's just a necessary evil to encourage companies to invest into our economy from Americans' high spending power but lack of employee opportunity.

Time will tell if the intended result would reflect positively for the US economy long term. I'm expecting turbulence with trying to improve from Bidenocomics. I know it will take longer to clean up a mess that you had nothing to do with.
 
The tariff conversation is stupid. If I give you $100 and you give me $10 I have a deficit of $90. If we stop giving each other money, I necessarily will be in a better position because I keep that $90. You are necessarily worse because you no longer get that money. This is assuming you were even giving me $10 because guess what, the EU doesn't buy our products. There is no mathematical way for tariffs to hurt the United States.
I understand a lot of what gets posted in this thread now that I've read this comment. Thank you, that's been enlightening.
 
Both sides used to brag that the US/Can border was the largest unguarded border in the world but I guess those days are gone now that Canada has decided to import 50% of India to provide slave labor for the elites.
I always think about that one town where the border is literally the road and you’re not allowed to stop on the road because then you’re in an international situation. And there was a news story where cops stop people who cross said street because one side is Canada one side is the USA

A very unprotected border. I wonder how that will change going forward
 
The tariff conversation is stupid. If I give you $100 and you give me $10 I have a deficit of $90. If we stop giving each other money, I necessarily will be in a better position because I keep that $90. You are necessarily worse because you no longer get that money. This is assuming you were even giving me $10 because guess what, the EU doesn't buy our products. There is no mathematical way for tariffs to hurt the United States.
We have ended up at this point like 20 different times in this thread but yep that basically sums up the tariff situation. We lose by doing deals in almost every situation currently so if we stopped we would just win by default.

Still kinda blows me away many people here have 0 clue that most countries have fat tariffs on us and have forever.
 
One of the sad thing about Canada completely fucking itself over is that it will force the US to take steps to protect their northern border.

Both sides used to brag that the US/Can border was the largest unguarded border in the world but I guess those days are gone now that Canada has decided to import 50% of India to provide slave labor for the elites.

I'm old enough to remember when all you needed to go to the US from Canada was your drivers license and they'd wave you through.

Thanks Trudeau for destroy one of the closest and longest national relationships in history just because Orange Man Bad.

I hope your WEF masters reward you well Trudy for what you did to Canada.
Every Candian that can is fleeing south.
 
I think this phrase gives us some wiggle room, if we go full spirit of the constitution mode we could interpret the bold phrase as: subject to the (sole) jurisdiction thereof
which would fulfill the amendment's function and intention of guaranteeing the slaves citizenship as they would be essentially stateless individuals in the jurisdiction and care of our country while denying citizenship to individuals who are subject to other jurisdictions like illegal aliens or tourists.

Anyone else wants to take a crack at armchair lawyering the birthright issue? I genuinely want to know what you guys can come up with.
Slaves were subject to the sole jurisdiction of the US. Illegals and “asylum seekers” aren’t. This raises the question of what to do if the left tries giving illegals citizenship to put them under that jurisdiction, but I don’t think that would matter without it causing a domino effect on people’s ownership and property rights (it’s still happening anyway, like citizens who are arrested for trying to get squatting illegals removed).
 
Serious answer is that liberals can't negotiate. There is a big issue with them being unable to negotiate wages and basically anything you can imagine and it has been that way for awhile. All Trudeau has to do is enforce the border and equalize the trade imbalance and tariffs never would've happened.

I think they're autistic. Not bullshitting, not exaggerating, not intentionally insulting. They have to think in such absolute unquestionable black and white terms that I cannot see them as anything but at least morally autistic, if not that way in general.

I think that modernity has fucked up the kind of teaching and socializing that would help minor cases be normal, leading to more people becoming touched by the tism, and this is a manifestation of it.
 
I think this phrase gives us some wiggle room, if we go full spirit of the constitution mode we could interpret the bold phrase as:

which would fulfill the amendment's function and intention of guaranteeing the slaves citizenship as they would be essentially stateless individuals in the jurisdiction and care of our country while denying citizenship to individuals who are subject to other jurisdictions like illegal aliens or tourists.
Can't it means that say you're born in a US embassy, or a US flagged ship or a US military base or US territory or Indian reservation (maybe) then you are a us citizen. That's how McCain despite being born in the Panama Zone was able to run for the presidency. With the children of illegals, their parents are subject to not being citizens but the children are automatically citizens. This would also mean that your citizenship could be removed because technically your great grandfather never renounced (formally) the citizenship of Italy and thus you are Italian all of a sudden. It is pretty easy to read. Wherever the US flag flies if you give birth there your child is American. The only way we could idk prevent this would be denying people who are in their third trimester from coming to the USA. It sucks that this abuse exists but until an amendment (or at least a bill) is passed it is what the judiciary deems it to be.



Anyone else wants to take a crack at armchair lawyering the birthright issue? I genuinely want to know what you guys can come up with.
see above
 
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