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The big question is: would you (the average American) pay more for a superior product or less for a similar but inferior product? A shovel is a shovel so why should I buy the more expensive (made in America) one when I can get the cheaper (made in China) one and accomplish the same goals with each?
I'm sure plenty of Americans would choose the latter because they don't have the money for the higher upfront cost, but I've been working on switching to American made goods, or at least higher quality goods, for a while and it is worth it.

No more clothes ripping after a couple uses, sheets that make me immediately comfy when I get in bed (flannel, linen, cotton) instead of leaving me with a gross feeling like synthetic fabrics, daily use items like plates and mugs that look nice and will last a long time (even some special ones made by local artists).

I've seen no downside, and the more I transition away from cheap lower quality chink shit the more I wonder why I didn't do it sooner. I'm saving up for some larger purchases like furniture to replace the cheap starter shit I have now and can't wait.
 
Because the cheap Chinese-made ones break after one use and that's fucking annoying. Many Americans want to BIFL, but Chinese firms try to convince us that "fast fashion" is cool so they can sell us their cheap shit.
Another problem is that women are the majority of spenders and they love fast fashion/temu shit
 
The Chinese wouldn't have a market if people didn't buy it. Think average. Why would I buy a $25 lightbulb when a $5 lightbulb will do the same thing? All I care is that I need a lightbulb now and need to buy other things too. It's simple capitalism.
Because that $25 light bulb might last 10 times longer than the $5 light bulb, stupid. Also, the $25 light bulb might work with the outlet while the $5 light bulb might get so hot that it melts, or explode because the Chinese have no quality control.

I have had a cheap Chinese-made bulb almost melt, by the way. I had to throw it out because it was a fire hazard.

The Chinese wouldn't have a market if people knew how fucking shady they are and Democrats didn't have USAID to pay media shills to celebrate the commies.
 
The Chinese wouldn't have a market if people didn't buy it. Think average. Why would I buy a $25 lightbulb when a $5 lightbulb will do the same thing? All I care is that I need a lightbulb now and need to buy other things too. It's simple capitalism.
The following are customers of Chinese goods:

1: people who get hoodwinked through Ali baba, wish, temu etc

2: businesses who think “wow I could save a bunch of money getting metals/castings etc from China” and ruin themselves over it because they had no fucking idea how bad it would actually be, because Chinese motherfuckers don’t vent castings appropriately so it cools all uneven and shit warps

3: amoral resellers

4: people who have no choice because there’s no alternative

You can get a no name Chinese volt meter for like $20, but every electrician I’ve ever seen has a Fluke
 
I've seen no downside, and the more I transition away from cheap lower quality chink shit the more I wonder why I didn't do it sooner. I'm saving up for some larger purchases like furniture to replace the cheap starter shit I have now and can't wait.
The hardest part (and biggest downside) is it's really hard to judge/guarantee quality, whether chinkmade or American made. At least when you buy the cheapest piece of shit on the shelf, you know you got the cheapest.

Too many times I've been smart and decided I will buy the more expensive "better made" piece of shit, and it turns out to be a piece of shit also.
 
I think the libs believe that if they keep making fun of JD's face, he'll resign from being Vice President.
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The JD vance memes are legitimately funny. Why would he be offended by that?
The funny part is that both the left and the right are making those memes and its hard to tell who made which. I suspect the left will stop once they see that the right laughed at a meme thr wrong way.
 
I always find the quality of shoes now funny, these people wear foam boots and then wonder why they need to buy shoes every 3 months. We don't even make repairable shoes anymore, do cobblers even still exist?
Cobblers still exist and wouldn't you know it, they mainly work on stuff made in America not cheap chink shit. Because if you spend 300 bucks on workboots and the sole lasts you 10 years then you'll probably want to repair them instead of just throwing them away. Something everyone always overlooks when it comes to Tariffs and cheap chink shit. High quality more costly stuff also creates jobs to fix said costly stuff, whereas cheap chink shit you just throw in the trash when it breaks.
 
The following are customers of Chinese goods:

1: people who get hoodwinked through Ali baba, wish, temu etc

2: businesses who think “wow I could save a bunch of money getting metals/castings etc from China” and ruin themselves over it because they had no fucking idea how bad it would actually be, because Chinese motherfuckers don’t vent castings appropriately so it cools all uneven and shit warps

3: amoral resellers

4: people who have no choice because there’s no alternative
This should be fucking featured. How can anyone sit there and celebrate cheap Chinese-made shit? I wish it was the 1970's where everything was made in Hong Kong, at least that plastic crap worked. Half the Chinese-made shit these days breaks before it even arrives.
 
I'm sure plenty of Americans would choose the latter because they don't have the money for the higher upfront cost, but I've been working on switching to American made goods, or at least higher quality goods, for a while and it is worth it.

I 100% agree with you. Although I have zero idea why people are rating me "dumb" I'm not saying Chinese goods are better than American ones I'm saying they're popular because they're cheaper


No more clothes ripping after a couple uses, sheets that make me immediately comfy when I get in bed (flannel, linen, cotton) instead of leaving me with a gross feeling like synthetic fabrics, daily use items like plates and mugs that look nice and will last a long time (even some special ones made by local artists).

But how many American companies are left who produce the raw or processed material? Sure your American made sheets might be good but if the fabric it's made from comes from a Chinese factory, then what's the point China is still making a profit. It use to be that all parts were made in the usa (from the cotton grown to the fabric to the shirt) now at most we get the shirt being made in the usa. Until we look at the root issue China will still make money. It's like our shipping industry, if our ships are still being made in China then they're still in charge even if American companies drive them.



I've seen no downside, and the more I transition away from cheap lower quality chink shit the more I wonder why I didn't do it sooner. I'm saving up for some larger purchases like furniture to replace the cheap starter shit I have now and can't wait.
We as a cultural embraced "disposable" post ww2, I hope we go back to high quality goods as things get more expensive thus making the cheap crap not worth it. But it will require a major cultural shift. I know you see it amongst leftists because environmental and all that jazz but unless people are able to make roots in a spot then everything is "starter".
 
The big question is: would you (the average American) pay more for a superior product or less for a similar but inferior product? A shovel is a shovel so why should I buy the more expensive (made in America) one when I can get the cheaper (made in China) one and accomplish the same goals with each?
I'm fucking tired of clothes being cheap pieces of shit whipped together by whipped children in third world shitholes. Socks unravelling within weeks of purchase, sportswear pants audibly ripping and crackling with a moderate tug on the drawstring, shirts and jackets coming off the rack with loose threads looking like they were sewn by my grandmother. Meanwhile I have in my closet a Walmart brand Faded Glory hoodie that I bought over a decade ago when I was in highschool and to this day there is not a single errant thread on it. It didn't use to be like this. Keep the slaves away from my fucking clothes, I don't care if that means I have to pay the extra cost of the manufacturer considering their workers to be human, I'll more than make my money back from not having to buy new sets of socks and underwear every couple months.
 
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This should be fucking featured. How can anyone sit there and celebrate cheap Chinese-made shit? I wish it was the 1970's where everything was made in Hong Kong, at least that plastic crap worked. Half the Chinese-made shit these days breaks before it even arrives.
The year is 2025 and China has still never produced a competent internal combustion engine
 
Ideally, you run trade deficits as your economy grows:

Year 1: Internal economy is $100,000. I export $100 in steel. I want to import $110 in cotton. To get the extra $10 I need, I offer the chance to invest in my steel industry, and a foreign investor invests $10.

Year 2: Internal economy is $105,000. I export $110 in steel. I want to import $125 in cotton. To get the extra $15...

When your economy isn't growing:

Year 1: Internal economy is $100,000. I export $100 in steel. I want to import $110 in cotton. To get the extra $10 I need, the government engages in deficit spending, Foreign buyers buy $10 worth of the bonds.

Year 2: Internal economy is $105,000. I export $110 in steel. I want to import $125 in cotton. To get the extra $15...

We're mostly doing the second thing, but the point is that a trade deficit isn't intrinsically bad or good. It depends on why you have one.
 
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Regulations don't hurt monopolies, they're the only ones that can afford the compliance cost.
Learn what regulatory capture is, and stop simping for shit that only helps megacorps.
Not all regulations are bad. Ones that keep workers and consumers from dying and the environment from being polluted are actually good. The issue is that the US government under Republicans and Democrats won't break up monopolies. Monopolies are also able to eat the costs of regulations because they off shore the most regulatory intensive areas to nations which have lower regulations.

Remember regulations are built on blood. They tend to exist for a reason.


By the way I'm not simping for mega corps when I specifically said I want to see the US government break them all up.
 
Too many times I've been smart and decided I will buy the more expensive "better made" piece of shit, and it turns out to be a piece of shit also.
I ask other people who are also interested in the same goal, or I shop in person, or do some research to figure out what qualities I should be looking for.
That's how I ended up with MyPillow sheets and pillows (they're great by the way).
 
HOLY SHIT STOP!

Everyone has an opinion but not everyone is informed in the fucking slightest. The IMPORTER pays the tariff, NOT the CUSTOMER. I’m so fucking sick of this complete misconception. And anyway, let’s say the price was pushed onto the costumer. The amount of jobs that would be moved here domestically would far outweigh any sort of hypothetical price of goods in the long run. Think forwardly.

And also adding taxes into the mix, if we removed sales tax in favor of a tariff cost that would be far more favorable in the long-run. Less taxes = more money saved.
The importer pays the tariff which get added to the cost of the customer pays. this isn't hard. The alternative, which is rare, is that the exporter lowers their prices to keep the tariffed price the same as before the tarriff. I've seen both happen but the latter is rare.
 
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