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We as a cultural embraced "disposable" post ww2, I hope we go back to high quality goods as things get more expensive thus making the cheap crap not worth it. But it will require a major cultural shift. I know you see it amongst leftists because environmental and all that jazz but unless people are able to make roots in a spot then everything is "starter".
Check this out.

Do you care about the environment?

Is it better for the environment to make one toaster that lasts you a life time, one coffee pot that lasts you a life time, or ten, twenty?

What about if those ten or twenty shitty appliances are un-recyclable because the metals in them are unidentifiable chinesium alloys?

My boss tried to get some copper from China. It melted when I was trying to braze it with a butane torch. Copper doesn’t melt at butane temperatures. This is what we call chinesium

How is generational wealth supposed to exist when nothing you own lasts a generation?
 
Ideally, you run trade deficits as your economy grows:

Year 1: Internal economy is $100,000. I export $100 in steel. I want to import $110 in cotton. To get the extra $10 I need, I offer the chance to invest in my steel industry, and a foreign investor invests $10.

Year 2: Internal economy is $105,000. I export $110 in steel. I want to import $125 in cotton. To get the extra $25...

When your economy isn't growing:

Year 1: Internal economy is $100,000. I export $100 in steel. I want to import $110 in cotton. To get the extra $10 I need, the government engages in deficit spending, Foreign buyers buy $10 worth of the bonds.

Year 2: Internal economy is $105,000. I export $110 in steel. I want to import $125 in cotton. To get the extra $25...

We're mostly doing the second thing, but the point is that a trade deficit isn't intrinsically bad or good. It depends on why you have one.
The strength of the dollar is based upon the deficit. If you equalize the deficit there is no reason for the dollar to be the globally accepted reserve and therefore will weaken. That’s the goal of this administration, to lower the dollar’s valuation in order to move back into gold. The big issue is we left the gold standard because it’s inefficient and you otherwise end up paying the leftover change with silver, which could just be remedied with differing bill faces.
 
Ideally, you run trade deficits as your economy grows:

Year 1: Internal economy is $100,000. I export $100 in steel. I want to import $110 in cotton. To get the extra $10 I need, I offer the chance to invest in my steel industry, and a foreign investor invests $10.

Year 2: Internal economy is $105,000. I export $110 in steel. I want to import $125 in cotton. To get the extra $25...

When your economy isn't growing:

Year 1: Internal economy is $100,000. I export $100 in steel. I want to import $110 in cotton. To get the extra $10 I need, the government engages in deficit spending, Foreign buyers buy $10 worth of the bonds.

Year 2: Internal economy is $105,000. I export $110 in steel. I want to import $125 in cotton. To get the extra $25...

We're mostly doing the second thing, but the point is that a trade deficit isn't intrinsically bad or good. It depends on why you have one.
Only really makes sense if the item you wish to import is something with limited options for doing so like semiconductors and chips. Tons of our trade imbalances are just items we could get from many other countries or previously used to make here until NAFTA gutted what was left of many industries.

Just look at the Columbia situation when people sperged about flowers going up in price. We used to grow them here like crazy until NAFTA gutted that industry in most states so it went abroad. We are the market that everyone is desperate to get their goods in to so we have no reason to take a bad deal unless it is a good we can't get elsewhere.
 
So. Why are Democrats so desperate to kick off World War III again?
China wants it
And they think WW3 will disproportionately kill white men (the literal devil)
They don't think they'll be affected (they sure as shit aren't going to go fight, nor will their kids, they're too busy getting a liberal arts degree)
And most of them are getting kickbacks from the defense industry so they have a direct financial incentive

So... the way to win over working class voters for democrats is... to become republican.

"Moderate democrats" must be exceptionally stupid.
A foundational myth of the modern democrat is that everything good the Republicans have ever done was before a mythical "flip" where the Democrats and Republicans changed their names. I.e., all those awesome things the Republicans did? They're the Democrats now! Everything shitty the Democrats did? That was reaaaaly the Republicans, don't you know? What about the times when they did good and bad things? Well obviously the good things were Democrats and the bad were Republican, duh.

So them intentionally activating this trap card? I could see it.

I do worry that tariffs will drive industry back to the US only for it to shut down because unaddressed union bullshit/regulation/etc makes it unprofitable. While the global race to the bottom for labor prices definitely contributed to driving industry out of the US, I do think a lot of it came from stuff that tariffs don't address.
For an example of this, didn't they try to do the "move chip manufacturing to the US" thing already only it turns out when your DEI rules require 80% Blacks and 80% Women to be placed in all the good jobs or it's "bigoted" it's literally impossible to staff a tech sector factory?

Are we just ignoring the fact that the head of the office that refused to hand over the Epstein files was fired yesterday? Probably didn't announce it until the end of day, too (timing is such that this came out at 5 PM EST).

Kash Money and his boss Blondi might actually be doing something in response to their open insubordination.
 
Check this out.

Do you care about the environment?

Is it better for the environment to make one toaster that lasts you a life time, one coffee pot that lasts you a life time, or ten, twenty?

What about if those ten or twenty shitty appliances are un-recyclable because the metals in them are unidentifiable chinesium alloys?

How is generational wealth supposed to exist when nothing you own lasts a generation?
Yeah but see most of those are made in China where regulations are looser. I don't disagree with your point but what does more damage is often the construction not the disposal. Often things that are disposed of are recycled or in some cases shipped to other countries to fill their land fills (clothes and computer parts often end up in Africa). This companies realized that if you do your dirty work abroad then us regulations aren't a big issue.
 
Not all regulations are bad. Ones that keep workers and consumers from dying and the environment from being polluted are actually good.
You're retarded.

Environmental regulations set allowable levels of pollution, with fines lower than the profit polluters make dumping waste.
Regulations do nothing other protect companies, your safety is assured by Jew lawyers in search of class action paychecks.
 
The Chinese wouldn't have a market if people didn't buy it. Think average. Why would I buy a $25 lightbulb when a $5 lightbulb will do the same thing? All I care is that I need a lightbulb now and need to buy other things too. It's simple capitalism.
The Chinese lightbulb is cheaper because the US Federal government does not enforce the same manufacturing requirements on the Chinese factory. Minimum wage, OSHA safety, environmental, accounting, US taxes, etc.

Hypothetically US citizens benefit from cheaper products and not suffering the externality of polluted Chinese land and water.

But, China doesn't buy an equal amount of stuff from us. So a big pile of dollars pool up over there. China buys US bonds, securities, stocks, assets and land, because the US government is retarded.

We pay them dollars for their cheap goods. They build infrastructure to manufacture those goods. They elevate their citizens slowly out of poverty. They take the money we spend on their cheap crap and they buy up our own assets. When we "borrow" US dollars from the Federal Reserve, China gets paid some of the interest.

The entire system is retarded.
 
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Now that this thread is unlocked I can come back and say just how retarded of a job Trump is doing.

So RFK's first act in make america healthy again is to stop antisemitism on college campuses. Of course they are using the IHRA definition of anti semitism which just shuts down anyone who critiques Jewish power.

So Crypto prices were falling in response to the exchange hack so Trump announced a crypto reserve full of like 3 shitcoins along side BTC and Etherium that exist to pump up the funds of his Jew pay master david Sachs.

The stock market is crashing.

Why is Trump so retarded ? I hate the democrats as much as any of you but I have to be honest they are just better politicians, not that I like or agree with them more but they are just better at being politicians.
 
Serious question guys. Tarrifs on China I get but why Mexico and Canada? Most goods go back and forth across the two borders constantly before finishing in the USA. Furthermore Mexico and Canada are major agro partners. what's the goal here? It seems like a sledgehammer is being used when a scalpel could be better.
The majority of our food we can produce our selves with the exceptions of some luxuries like Maple Syrup or Coffee (there is production of both within the US and our territories as well as other trade partners.). In the instance of Mexico a lot of automotive manufacturing was being done there to circumnavigate paying Americans for that labor, however now Honda is moving for domestic production. In the long run this is for the best.
 
The Chinese lightbulb is cheaper because the US Federal government does not enforce the same manufacturing requirements on the Chinese factory. Minimum wage, OSHA safety, environmental, accounting, US taxes, etc.

Hypothetically US citizens benefit from cheaper products and not suffering the externality of polluted Chinese land and water.

exactly my point. A us made lightbulb while pricier is better for americans in all fronts from economic to safety to environmental


but when it's up on the shelf next to a china made lightbulb that costs 1/10th the price the uninformed consumer will go "a lightbulb is a lightbulb" and pick the cheaper one every time. And when it fails on them early they'll just go "light bulbs just do that".

But, China doesn't buy an equal amount of stuff from us. So a big pile of dollars pool up over there. China buys US bonds, securities, stocks, assets and land, because the US government is retarded.
The issue is that Congress won't do it's fucking job and pass a bill making it harder or outright illegal for China to do that.



We pay them dollars for their cheap goods. They build infrastructure to manufacture those goods. They elevate their citizens slowly out of poverty. They take the money we spend on their cheap crap and they buy up our own assets. When we "borrow" US dollars from the Federal Reserve China gets paid some of the interest.


Do remember that most us debt is internally held. But your point still stands. Also do remember china has over a billion people. making 750 million go from living in door floored homes to linoleum tilled commie blocks wins you domestically a lot of support.
The entire system is retarded.
We could fix some of it if we a) broke up monopolies to ensure competition b) banned foreign companies from owning a majority share of US based corporations c) had Congress pass a bill which would punish corporations for not building and hiring American first.
 
Yeah but see most of those are made in China where regulations are looser. I don't disagree with your point but what does more damage is often the construction not the disposal. Often things that are disposed of are recycled or in some cases shipped to other countries to fill their land fills (clothes and computer parts often end up in Africa). This companies realized that if you do your dirty work abroad then us regulations aren't a big issue.
Nobody in China gives a fuck about regulations. They’d have to pay regulators to regulate and they might offend their friends and business partners.

You don’t seem to understand how bad they are.

Have you heard of cancer villages? They have entire fucking villages with cancer rates up to like 60, 70, 80% because nobody will stop factories from dumping their waste.

Over 60% of ground water in China isn’t safe to drink, and it’s not because of giardia or dysentery. It’s because it’s fucking poison
 
"Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker
I bet there's a joke that starts: "A faggot, an Indian and a Nigger walk into a bar..."
funny watching boomers completely sperg out going "it's the end of the world my stonk portfolio is only worth 2.8 million instead of three million!
And the same boomers are constantly saying "Invest in the stock market because it always goes up in the long run! Don't sell in a down market!"
[Not wrong, but look at them freak out when their stocks dip]
 
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