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Should be a wild four years.

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The Chinese lightbulb is cheaper because the US Federal government does not enforce the same manufacturing requirements on the Chinese factory. Minimum wage, OSHA safety, environmental, accounting, US taxes, etc.

Hypothetically US citizens benefit from cheaper products and not suffering the externality of polluted Chinese land and water.

exactly my point. A us made lightbulb while pricier is better for americans in all fronts from economic to safety to environmental


but when it's up on the shelf next to a china made lightbulb that costs 1/10th the price the uninformed consumer will go "a lightbulb is a lightbulb" and pick the cheaper one every time. And when it fails on them early they'll just go "light bulbs just do that".

But, China doesn't buy an equal amount of stuff from us. So a big pile of dollars pool up over there. China buys US bonds, securities, stocks, assets and land, because the US government is retarded.
The issue is that Congress won't do it's fucking job and pass a bill making it harder or outright illegal for China to do that.



We pay them dollars for their cheap goods. They build infrastructure to manufacture those goods. They elevate their citizens slowly out of poverty. They take the money we spend on their cheap crap and they buy up our own assets. When we "borrow" US dollars from the Federal Reserve China gets paid some of the interest.


Do remember that most us debt is internally held. But your point still stands. Also do remember china has over a billion people. making 750 million go from living in door floored homes to linoleum tilled commie blocks wins you domestically a lot of support.
The entire system is retarded.
We could fix some of it if we a) broke up monopolies to ensure competition b) banned foreign companies from owning a majority share of US based corporations c) had Congress pass a bill which would punish corporations for not building and hiring American first.
 
Yeah but see most of those are made in China where regulations are looser. I don't disagree with your point but what does more damage is often the construction not the disposal. Often things that are disposed of are recycled or in some cases shipped to other countries to fill their land fills (clothes and computer parts often end up in Africa). This companies realized that if you do your dirty work abroad then us regulations aren't a big issue.
Nobody in China gives a fuck about regulations. They’d have to pay regulators to regulate and they might offend their friends and business partners.

You don’t seem to understand how bad they are.

Have you heard of cancer villages? They have entire fucking villages with cancer rates up to like 60, 70, 80% because nobody will stop factories from dumping their waste.

Over 60% of ground water in China isn’t safe to drink, and it’s not because of giardia or dysentery. It’s because it’s fucking poison
 
"Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker
I bet there's a joke that starts: "A faggot, an Indian and a Nigger walk into a bar..."
funny watching boomers completely sperg out going "it's the end of the world my stonk portfolio is only worth 2.8 million instead of three million!
And the same boomers are constantly saying "Invest in the stock market because it always goes up in the long run! Don't sell in a down market!"
[Not wrong, but look at them freak out when their stocks dip]
 
China actually makes a good case for national socialism. xi Jing Ping was inspired by Karl Schmitt.

Compare that to Trump's economic plan which is cut taxes on the rich and just hope that economy happens and it makes up for the deficits, because that worked so well the last 20 times you tried it.

This admistration is more zogged then I thought it would be, I knew it would be bad but not this bad.
 
Nobody in China gives a fuck about regulations. They’d have to pay regulators to regulate and they might offend their friends and business partners.

You don’t seem to understand how bad they are.

Have you heard of cancer villages? They have entire fucking villages with cancer rates up to like 60, 70, 80% because nobody will stop factories from dumping their waste.

Over 60% of ground water in China isn’t safe to drink, and it’s not because of giardia or dysentery. It’s because it’s fucking poison
Wait what are you getting on about? You're supporting my point. Are you disagreeing or adding to it? My point is that instead of shitting up America (because regulations stop that) they go shit up some other part of the world with fewer regulations.
 
Nobody in China gives a fuck about regulations. They’d have to pay regulators to regulate and they might offend their friends and business partners.

You don’t seem to understand how bad they are.

Have you heard of cancer villages? They have entire fucking villages with cancer rates up to like 60, 70, 80% because nobody will stop factories from dumping their waste.

Over 60% of ground water in China isn’t safe to drink, and it’s not because of giardia or dysentery. It’s because it’s fucking poison
This is why we need an outright total ban on all Chinese goods.
 
Wait what are you getting on about? You're supporting my point. Are you disagreeing or adding to it? My point is that instead of shitting up America (because regulations stop that) they go shit up some other part of the world with fewer regulations.
You just sound like you’re fixated on the idea that there’s some country somewhere that deserves to be chinese’d

Please just click on this shit. They are evil

 
You just sound like you’re fixated on the idea that there’s some country somewhere that deserves to be chinese’d

not at all. I'm just saying what's going on right now. If it were up to me I'd force us companies to apply US regulations overseas if they wish to sell to (at least) the American market.


Please just click on this shit. They are evil

I would be a bit careful about the "china bad" spergs. China does a lot of bad but these people tend to quote dissidents who make up or exaggerate shit. No joke the modern Chinese state operates not as a communist one but a fascist one. For Christ's sake they're one of two nations who still have internal passports (other being the DPRK).


It's like trusting Russian, Qatari or Chinese state propaganda to tell you about America. If you only watched them you would think the second you stepped out in the street you would get gunned down.



Would I want to live in China...no not at all. But they're our competitor for a reason and it's not because of all the smoke and mirrors.
 
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Over 60% of ground water in China isn’t safe to drink, and it’s not because of giardia or dysentery. It’s because it’s fucking poison
This is a serious issue in China that the CCP murders journalists for exposing (archive). Of course, neither the UN nor the Democrats care about this problem. Do not notice the rampant environmental disasters in China. Definitely don't say anything about East Palestine, OH. We must ban gas stoves!
 
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