UN Trudeau announces 25% tariffs on US goods will take effect at midnight in response to Trump’s on Canadian products - Why does Trudeau hate Canada? Doesn't he know that tariffs only harm the country that enacts them?

By David Propper
Published March 3, 2025, 9:42 p.m. ET

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday he’s ready to start a trade war with President Trump if the US leader moves forward with 25% tariffs on products from the northern nation at midnight.

Trudeau called America’s impending action against Canada “unjustified” and vowed to not let it go “unanswered.”

“Should American tariffs come into effect tonight, Canada will, effective 12:01 a.m. EST tomorrow, respond with 25 per cent tariffs against $155 billion of American goods – starting with tariffs on $30 billion worth of goods immediately, and tariffs on the remaining $125 billion on American products in 21 days’ time,” he said in a statement.

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Canadian PM Justin Trudeau announced 25% tariffs on US goods in response to President Trump on Monday. Ukrinform/Shutterstock

“Our tariffs will remain in place until the U.S. trade action is withdrawn, and should U.S. tariffs not cease, we are in active and ongoing discussions with provinces and territories to pursue several non-tariff measures.”

Trump told reporters at the White House earlier Monday 25% tariffs would be slapped on products from Canada and Mexico at midnight following a 30-day pause on the action.

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Trump announced 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico will take effect at midnight. AFP via Getty Images

He claimed the tariffs were a way to force the two nations to better combat the flow of fentanyl into the US and stop illegal immigration.

Trump, 78, has also said he wants to wipe away the trade imbalance between the US and the other two countries while pushing for more factories to relocate to the US.

Trudeau warned if the tariffs go into effect, Americans would need to cough up more cash for everyday products.

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US imports and exports under Trump’s tarrifs. Mike Guillen/NY Post Design

“Americans will pay more for groceries, gas, and cars, and potentially lose thousands of jobs. Tariffs will disrupt an incredibly successful trading relationship,” he said.

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The point of the tariffs is to raise the price of imports to make domestic products more attractive to the consumer. Modern globalized supply chains mean that you often don't have a domestic product, or you don't have one that isn't dependant on foreign components.
Right. "You don't have a domestic product" is the lynching here..
 
Their criteria for "not an emergency" is that we are not yet at the record 2005 deficit level. Even so they're forced to admit "Since Trump 1.0, the U.S. trade position eroded against Canada". They make a fair point that the trade deficit is worse for other partners, but it's pretty clear that it's not a made-up problem.

Tactically I wish Trump had started the tariff war with Mexico and held off on Canada, to avoid the risk of higher energy prices.
Its all energy and raw materials. From a consumer goods and services perspective (read: job producing), the US has massive trade surplus with Canada. This isn't "jobs go to Mexico"; this is an economy with the same competitive landscape for labor as the US.

So traditionally, the US buys energy and raw materials from Canada, turns them into things people buy, then ships them back to Canada. It's almost the opposite of the US relationship with Mexico, where factory jobs and assembly work go to die for $2/hr.
The US will have domestic substitutions for Canadian products while the same won't be true for Canada. All Trudeau had to do was not be an ungrateful little bitch.
While true, it will also make finished domestic goods more expensive because of the raw materials cost increase. The US simply cannot provide lumber and steel at the same price per quality per pound that Canada can, because Canada is one giant forest and mine with much stronger infrastructure for these industries.

Consider the inverse: Alberta could grow their own oranges in greenhouses, but they don't because they're bad at it. Instead, they import oranges from a place that has a natural competitive advantage due to its climate: Florida. It benefits Florida to import Albertan steel and it benefits Alberta to import Floridian oranges, because the alternative is economic inefficiency and retarded.

We associate import goods with shit quality because most of what we consider import goods are cheap shit from China. China's competitive advantage (and Mexico too, to an extent) is people (jobs); that has a far more deleterious effect on the US labour economy than the energy the US economy needs and uses today (power supply must always match power demand, at least electric energy) and a handful of raw materials from Canada... materials used to make finished goods that are then re-exported to Canada and result in a $63bn trade SURPLUS with that country.

I'm not sure what Trump wants here (I doubt it's actually 19 kg of fentanyl and a couple thousand visa overstayers stopped), but I'd like to see true free trade restored sometimes during this administration, so shit can stop being so expensive everywhere.
 
The point of the tariffs is to raise the price of imports to make domestic products more attractive to the consumer. Modern globalized supply chains mean that you often don't have a domestic product, or you don't have one that isn't dependant on foreign components.
This whole thing is retarded because that kind of shit only works if both countries have strong manufacturing bases in place and neither Canada nor the US do anymore after decades of that shit being gutted and sold off to the third world.
 
Its all energy and raw materials. From a consumer goods and services perspective (read: job producing), the US has massive trade surplus with Canada. This isn't "jobs go to Mexico"; this is an economy with the same competitive landscape for labor as the US.

I'm trying to drill down into the export/import categories, but having trouble getting a good breakdown both by type and trading partner. I suspect I can get it out of here if I drop down to the source data and play in a spreadsheet, but don't have time at the moment.

If you're right about the relative amounts, then Canada slapping tariffs on the US imports is going to hurt them more than it hurts us. A trade war is all about political will and the willingness/ability to replace high priced foreign goods with domestic. The US can replace Canadian raw materials, eventually, but I don't know that Canada can replace American goods with domestic production. The population mismatch also works in the US favor, as the price pain for the same amounts is spread out more.
 
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NY isn't even our biggest one. Thats how pathetic canada is.
People normally like to compare other nations to California. But canada isn't in that ballpark. I had to go down the list to NY.
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Canadian healthcare isn’t free
if American melts canadas economy, maybe all their Drs will move here giving us a surplus.
They've already been doing that, same as British doctors have been doing their best to flee the NHS.
 
The USA leads and I think 2025 is going to be a shit year.
It's a shame how two really cool sounding years (2020 and 2025) have been ruined by having this incompetent faggot as president. 2020? Covid was out of anyone's control, sure, but his response didn't fucking help. But all Trump had to do was not stick his dick where it didn't belong, keep his mouth shut and just ride the growth of Biden's economic recovery.

Every shit thing about 2025 in America has been through Donald Trump, Elon Musk and every other oligarch in the cabinet's direct and intentional decisions. This is an unforced error with no legitimate reasoning behind it. Maybe Trump just wanted to have a bit of fun and wreck the country before he croaks from eating another big mac?
 
Mmmm, fresh liberal seething.
It's a shame how two really cool sounding years (2020 and 2025) have been ruined by having this incompetent faggot as president. 2020? Covid was out of anyone's control, sure, but his response didn't fucking help. But all Trump had to do was not stick his dick where it didn't belong, keep his mouth shut and just ride the growth of Biden's economic recovery.

Every shit thing about 2025 in America has been through Donald Trump, Elon Musk and every other oligarch in the cabinet's direct and intentional decisions. This is an unforced error with no legitimate reasoning behind it. Maybe Trump just wanted to have a bit of fun and wreck the country before he croaks from eating another big mac?
Damn, Orange Man really does bring out the stupid in people like you.
 
I'm not sure what Trump wants here (I doubt it's actually 19 kg of fentanyl and a couple thousand visa overstayers stopped)
Canada is a massive gaping hole in America's periphery since we share a massive border. Trump wants to A) wring Canada back into line, because we've let ourselves get essentially colonized by potential american enemies(CCP mainly). There is also apparently a genuine drug ring running across our border, because our police are fucking useless and corrupt.
 
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