Magic The Gathering

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Thank you! I really appreciate you putting to words what has been bugging me not just in Magic writing, but writing in general lately. Trying to skip directly to the payoff.

By Skippy I am fighting an autistic urge to rant on this...

It's kind of a repeated problem I am starting to notice.

Murders - "Oh hey Teysa is now In charge of the Orzhov.
Thunder Junction - "Oh the Omenpaths mean we can settle this plane that was never really settled before!"
Aetherdrift - "Oh like 3 years ago someone used the Sylex blast to steal someone's spark and put it in an artifact"
Tarkir - "Oh the Khans are just back offscreen"

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Re : Thoughtseize in Standard.

I honestly think it -MIGHT- be fine, Power has crept to the point where a single discard isn't catastrophic for a lot of decks like it used to be, and you have a bunch of Variants of Burn and Aggro to punish the life loss, this is why in Modern you often take out Thoughtseize before you take out IOK because the life loss can add up between Fetches, Shocks and Seize itself, my main point about "powercrept" Thoughtseize is..unless you make it one or zero life (which might actually be broken) there isn't really a way to push it further.

I'm also feeling "probably fine", the days where decks can't just flip the script with a good top deck are pretty long gone. I also say reprint Counterspell (but not Lightning Bolt because lightning bolt would trade up HARD most of the time)

If you wanted to push Thoughtseize further, exiling the card would be one way (hell, people have started playing Dreams of Steel and Oil in modern for that reason) or putting the back-up text where if they don't have a nonland to make them discard you draw a card instead. Because as any thoughtsneed enjoyer knows drawing one late game is worse than drawing a land in most cases and sneeding them only to find that they held a land to fuck with you is also rough.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I'm also feeling "probably fine", the days where decks can't just flip the script with a good top deck are pretty long gone. I also say reprint Counterspell (but not Lightning Bolt because lightning bolt would trade up HARD most of the time)

If you wanted to push Thoughsieze further, exiling the card would be one way (hell, people have started playing Dreams of Steel and Oil in modern for that reason) or putting the back-up text where if they don't have a nonland to make them discard you draw a card instead. Because as any thoughtsneed enjoyer knows drawing one late game is worse than drawing a land in most cases and sneeding them only to find that they held a land to fuck with you is also rough.

Oh right if you wanna power creep Thoughtseize just give it cycling for 2

 

[Endless Torment]

Thoughtsneed
Phyrexian Black Mana
Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life.

Cycling 2

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Thoughtsneed
Phyrexian Black Mana
Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life.

Cycling 2

looks about right for MH3 Modern.

 

[Girl Named Sandoz]

looks about right for MH3 Modern.

doesn't snowball from turn 1 nearly hard enough to be a mh3 card, this barely qualifies for mh2.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

doesn't snowball from turn 1 nearly hard enough to be a mh3 card, this barely qualifies for mh2.

Put it on a 2/1 lifelink body so we can reanimate blink and scam it and give it Ward: Discard a Card; we're gonna sell so many fucking packs.

 

[Endless Torment]

Thoughtsneed, Formerly ThoughtChuck
1 and a Phyrexian Black Mana
Legendary Demon Dragon Vampire
2/1 Lifelink

0: Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life. Active only as a sorcery and only once each turn.

Cycling 2

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Thoughtsneed, Formerly ThoughtChuck
1 and a Phyrexian Black Mana
Legendary Demon Dragon Vampire
2/1 Lifelink

0: Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life. Active only as a sorcery and only once each turn.

Cycling 2

Needs to be an angel and Phyrexian too.

 

[Flexo]

Thoughtsneed
Phyrexian Black Mana
Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life.

Cycling 2

Thoughtsneed, Formerly ThoughtChuck
1 and a Phyrexian Black Mana
Legendary Demon Dragon Vampire
2/1 Lifelink

0: Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life. Active only as a sorcery and only once each turn.

Cycling 2

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[Endless Torment]

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I believe the original conversation started off about putting thoughtseize back into standard and I kept just adding every power crept suggestion they had for it.
Now we have grief at home, but it also exiles, turns on mox amber, the new dragon mox, unholy annex, doesn't go down a card, can be cycled, and is recursive by itself.
It also kind of works with Cecil and Death's Shadow for modern by accident.

 

[Flexo]

You know... this isn't even a joke any more. This is just spoiler season.

 

[Rectum Ravager]

Theros Standard being black-dominated almost purely on the back of Thoughtseize was cancer-aids, and Abzan dominating unchecked afterwards because of that card was even worse.

My favourite part of Thoughtseize was that even if you drew it lategame, you'd just feed it to your Pack Rat and still get value. That was such a fun shitshow of a format.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

Last line was added by a random intern with no testing because we needed some more garbage to try to con Commander players into cracking packs

 

[Polock]

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Last line was added by a random intern with no testing because we needed some more garbage to try to con Commander players into cracking packs

Of course, R&D thought that Sneed needed a card to balance it out but implemented it in the most hamfisted way possible that just had you run both alongside each other. Also to sell packs.


"People don't call my old store Chucks Feed & Seed?"

 

[Flexo]

OK. Which one of you on here is Remy...

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

OK. Which one of you on here is Remy...

Sneed.

 

[Professor V]

Of course, R&D thought that Sneed needed a card to balance it out but implemented it in the most hamfisted way possible that just had you run both alongside each other. Also to sell packs.
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"People don't call my old store Chucks Feed & Seed?"

Oh buddy, I'm brewing so hard, put a Purphoros on this pile, molten gatekeeper, a sprinkling of impact tremors, city on fire if you're feeling REAL SPICY and a side package of goblins and you've got a whammer of a deck that 95% of "I just wanna let my deck do it's thing" commander players literally WILL NOT be able to deal with. Keep the chef's hat on, you're cooking.

 

[Stoneheart]

Thoughtsneed, Formerly ThoughtChuck
1 and a Phyrexian Black Mana
Legendary Demon Dragon Vampire
2/1 Lifelink

0: Target player reveals their hand. You choose a card from it. That player exiles that card. You lose 3 life. Active only as a sorcery and only once each turn.

Cycling 2

Needs Poison 2-

"People don't call my old store Chucks Feed & Seed?"

that card isnt busted enough, needs the cant heal mechanic from that busted red card from the horror show set. also Cyling R would make it even more cancer

 

[Polock]

that card isnt busted enough, needs the cant heal mechanic from that busted red card from the horror show set. also Cyling R would make it even more cancer

I actually tried to also staple the Ragavan treasure token + impulse draw on it too but was getting to like 10 lines of text by that point. We aren't quite to that point of late stage MTG death.