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I was always kinda bothered Victoria's Secret was run by a guy.
I mean, say what you will, but the dude is politically persecuted to an extreme degree. He’s been debanked, he has crazy trannies that will do anything to destroy him, the country of New Zealand has tried to destroy him, idiots like Marjory Taylor Green blame him for a swatting attempt, his website is considered the worst thing in human existence, cloudflare stole his url to upload a blogpost, his entire family has disowned him, and he’s considered an ultimate boogie man for many on the left. He gets banned from websites just for existing on them. All just for running a website where people gossip about internet retards while the Nick Fuenteses and Andrew Tates of the world are just fine.

I don’t agree with everything Josh believes, but I also have never experienced anything close to what he has. I think his beliefs are earned and validated by the utter hell he goes through.
The fact that Josh tried to help CWC for as long as he did says a lot about his character. Josh is human and he is flawed like the rest of us but he is a much better person then the internet says he is.
 
You can tell the Democrats are losing because they're doing really stupid and desperate shit.

The fucking ping pong paddles, the yelling and singing, the public arguments etc. None of it makes them look competent or defiant, it makes them look petulant and petty. They're trying to look like civil rights protesters but instead they look like third world politicians from a banana republic.
 
This is such a funny thread. I hope that person is pulling so Poe's law BS. Actually I hope she's sincere.


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Why is she doing that with her mouth?

There are good Black composers, but they are rare. Most of the shit I see is either disappointing or outright incendiary. Whether they've been completely consumed by racial grievance or they're profiting off of it, this does nothing but damage the reputation of anyone that deserves praise. Maybe I'm expecting too much, though. Even one of the featured composers in the first article, Jens Ibsen, seems unable to put the pieces together as to why he suddenly got a lot of government and institutional interest and aid after St. Floyd partook in Da Holy Comunion.
I've shared this horrible "Black contemporary art" before but I'll share it again now:
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Do you have any examples of the black composers they were funding?
 
I still want to believe that anyone who dislikes Trump can still be a sane person with a functioning conscience.

You can still dislike the Orange Man without having TDS ... Or at least I would hope so.
It seems that people who dislike Trump and can do so sanely are extremely rare in the younger generations. As always, your mileage may vary and there are definitely exceptions to my observation.

I just hated this delusion of letting millions of randoms flood the country and somehow that made you a good person and other bleeding heart nonsense that made no sense when you think about it rationally.
Around here, religious leaders somehow insist that discouraging illegal immigration somehow takes away those peoples' dignity. They seem to overlook the part that illegal border crossing is against the law in pretty much every civilized nation and that Jesus himself stressed the importance of trying to obey both religious and everyday law (Mark 12:17).

None of these advocates have yet offered any compelling reason why refugees should be allowed to break the law versus obeying it f they want to come to the US.

And Trump, as ever, owns any public appearance, clowning on Congress with triumphant style. Still not fully used to a president who actively shitposts, kind of love it.
I always get a laugh out Dems and TDS people focusing on Trump's comments that are outright trolls or clearly exaggerated bluster. It's rare when they can come up with a valid criticism of an actual stance and instead focus on his silliest comments and present them without context.

and now they're pretending to give a shit about free speech
Aren't these the same people who insist misgendering or improper pronoun usage should be a capital offense?

2; repeal planned obsolescence, bring back cars that live for 20-30 years
Yes, modern cars last longer in terms of mileage, but repair costs are through the roof.
Tell me about it. During COVID, my repair shop's hourly labor charge exceeded the inflation rate. Parts are marked up so ridiculously I've learned to replace what parts and filters I can on my own for a fraction of the price. Still, it sucks that most parts places want to retire replacement parts after 10-15 years which makes it hard to keep an older operationally-sound vehicle beyond that. At that point, parts are either impossible to find or expensive - especially when multiple parts all go bad at/around the same time.
 
Can someone explain what started these funny JD Vance memes? I feel like it must have been leftists that started it with the intent to insult him but as usual they failed.
I got ninja'd, was going to ask too. I assumed it was insulting Vance but I guess it accidentally made him more relatable, like some chill redneck you'd meet on the side of the road when your car breaks down?
 
if tariffs make it too expensive to make and sell plastic garbage for a price point at which the consumer will buy, they don't raise prices, they stop making plastic garbage and/or start selling it elsewhere

this is an obvious benefit of tariffs and I've never seen it adequately discussed by real economists, by which I mean austrians - I don't even know adequate terminology to use to discuss it other than luxury market or consumer market. the total disappearance of cheap chinese plastic crap is only bad if huge quantities of cheap chinese crap is the price of the free market. is it? I dunno.

“adequately discussed by real economists”

Modern "real economists" exist in an Overton window that presupposes Ricardo's concept of "comparative advantage" is correct. Ricardo argued that international trade is always beneficial, even if one country is more competitive in every area than its trading counterpart. Ricardo opposed protectionism for national economies. David Ricardo, Thomas Malthus, Adam Smith, James Mill, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau were anti-Mercantilists and argued in favor of laissez-faire "free trade" economics. All modern Western "real economists" are built on this foundation. They are the reason Thomas Carlyle dubbed economics "the dismal science".



Trump nominated Stephen Miran as chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers. Today the Senate Banking Committee voted to advance him to a full Senate confirmation vote. Along with Jonathan McKernan (Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection), William Pulte (Federal Housing Finance Agency), and Jeffrey Kessler (undersecretary of Commerce for industry and security). [Bloomberg (archive)]

Stephen Miran published a PDF: A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System on November 12th of 2024 just after Trump won. It is 41 pages long and is intended for an audience that is fluent in economics terms. It was not a quick read. It lays out the Trump2.0 economic game plan; why and how tariffs will be used.

Helpfully Stephen Miran also posted a summary on X as a series of 35 tweets: ThreadReader, XCancel, or X. I'll post it here also:
A USER'S GUIDE TO RESTRUCTURING THE GLOBAL TRADING SYSTEM

As markets look forward to a second Trump Admin, there are lots of bad predictions that tariffs will cause horrible inflation, or the President can't affect the dollar. Both are false. /1 hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/h…

There's a variety of tools the Trump Admin can use to procure fairer and more reciprocal international trade, through tariffs or currency policy. Each tool has different potential side effects, but there are steps the Admin can take to mitigate them. /2

Disclaimer: As always, these views are mine alone, and I certainly don’t speak for any of my colleagues, and I’m not affiliated with the Trump transition effort. This is my interpretation of what causes our persistent imbalances, and describing various tools I think could help./3

Before devising solutions, it's important to diagnose the source of the trade asymmetries. That lies in the inelastic demand for reserve assets, regardless of price. /4

Treasury securities are bought for reserve purposes--facilitating trade between other countries, or managing another country's currency--they're bought regardless of yield or fundamental return characteristics for the United States. /5

That inelastic demand for Treasurys puts upward pressure on the dollar. As global GDP grows relative to US GDP, the distortion in the currency market that prevents trade flows from balancing grows similarly larger. /6

The burden the overvalued dollar places on the U.S. manufacturing sector drives carnage across the industrial base of the country, and places an enormous drag on our export sector. American workers bear the cost for global reserve provision. /7
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Our borrowing isn’t caused by overconsumption, but the reverse—we import too much because we export reserve assets to facilitate global trade and savings. /8
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That makes trade deeply unfair to Americans, leaving us to bear the costs of global reserve provision and defense simultaneously (and the two are linked). There are two major ways to address the root problem: tariffs or currency interventions. /9

In Trump's first term, there was no discernible rise in inflation or drag on growth. Why?

The answer lies in what economists call "currency offset."

The dollar moved up by almost the exact amount as the tariffs did. After-tariff USD import prices didn't move. /10
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If the currency offsets the tariff, what are the consequences? Prices don’t budge much, so there’s no inflation and Treasury raises a lot of revenue. But the Chinese were made poorer, because their purchasing power declined with the renminbi. In that sense, they paid for the tariff. /11

Because the total revenue raised over a decade of the China tariffs works out to be roughly a third of the cost of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, China effectively paid for a big chunk of the tax cuts for American workers and businesses. /12

Currency offset matters: if there are no material price changes, there’s no inflation or growth drags, but there’s also little incentive to reallocate supply chains out of China.If it doesn’t occur, there’s more incentive to move supply chains, but less revenue. /13
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In the paper, I discuss why currency offset occurs, and some of the academic literature on microdata on tariffs and why I think it’s wrong…look into it if of interest! (twitter thread shouldn’t’ be 1000 posts long) /14

Because the tariff levels President Trump has proposed are much higher than what was enacted in his first term, there are greater risks, too. Therefore, an approach of gradualism can be employed to help minimize adverse consequences like market volatility. /15

If the Administration proceeds at a monthly place of tariff increases e.g. 2% until China complies with certain international trading norms like respecting intellectual property and opening its markets, tariffs will slowly ratchet up over time. /16

A clear and gradual but nevertheless inevitable upward path for tariffs will reduce uncertainty and thereby market volatility. The transparent forward guidance will give firms time to adjust their behavior rather than causing upsets in the markets. /17

Such a policy could get to 60% tariffs on China within a couple of years without the negative consequences of sharp and sudden moves.
What about the 10%+ tariffs Trump has proposed for the rest of the world? /18

Here again, it could reduce volatility or other side effects by taking a phase-in approach. Moreover, Trump advisor Scott Bessent has recommended creating several buckets of tariff levels, and countries could fall into buckets based on their relationship with the U.S. /19

One can imagine a wide variety of criteria for these buckets, and a large number of buckets tailored at U.S. policy objectives /20
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Such buckets would improve burden sharing tremendously. Those that abuse the system get higher tariff rates and pay more revenue to Treasury. Those that pull their weight in defense and trade retain lower tariff rates. Strong outcomes. /21

In sum, tariffs can be implemented with an eye toward minimizing adverse consequences, and incentivizing good behavior from our trading and defense partners.

What about currency policies to address consequences of dollar misvaluation? /22

There are two approaches: multilateral or unilateral. Most currency policy changes have been through multilateral accords. Many analysts argue there are no unilateral policies an administration can take. That’s definitely not true. /23

Multilateral accords work through an agreement with trading partners to raise the value of their currencies closer to fair value. Of course, they’ll require incentives to get there—sticks and carrots.
I discuss what a potential “Mar-a-Lago Accord” could look like. /24

In particular, if you’re telling trading partners to sell dollar assets, you need to come up with a way of preventing unwanted rises in the long end of the yield curve. I discuss some steps for that, with a hat tip to Zoltan Poszar channeling some Trump advisors. /25

Any multilateral accord can extend to duration as well. If countries want to remain inside the U.S. trade and security umbrella, they can help share the burden of reserve asset and defense provision by terming out their Treasury holdings. /26
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By buying ultra-long-term Treasury bonds, they can alleviate pressure on U.S. financing for their reserves and defense. It’s a significant improvement on burden sharing relative to all the burden placed on American taxpayers and manufacturers. /27

There are also a variety of unilateral approaches designed either to accumulate foreign currencies and raise their value (an approach taken by many other nations), or to discourage the accumulation of excess Treasury reserves. /28

These approaches would be more experimental, and the set of potential side effects is wider and more uncertain. Still, if the President decides he wants to weaken the dollar unilaterally, there are means of doing so, and ways to mitigate side effects. /29

These approaches include: accumulating our own reserve assets; selling gold reserves; disincentivizing the accumulation of excess reserve assets. They each have different costs or benefits associated with them. /30

I go through some of these approaches in detail. Because currency policy hasn’t been active in decades, and it’s less well understood than tariffs, which the last Trump Admin used extensively, I expect tariffs to get first up at bat. /31

Tariffs also build leverage for future bilateral or multilateral agreements. China only came to the table to negotiate, and then agreed to the Phase 1 deal, because of the leverage that tariffs provided. /32

For these reasons, I expect tariffs to precede currency policy, if it ever comes. Tariffs put upward pressure on the dollar, but currency policy, if it’s used, is likely to put upward pressure on other currencies. /33

That means I expect Trump policy to be strongly dollar positive before reversing, if it ever does. The sequencing matters.
There’s a whole bunch of other market implications I discuss—energy, rates, the Fed, equities… /34

But this thread is long enough as it is. Check out the paper! /END hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/h…



This view of economics is most associated with Peter Navarro. Navarro is an American economist and author who is currently the senior counselor for trade and manufacturing for U.S. president Donald Trump. First Trump administration (White House National Trade Council; then Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy).

Navarro encouraged President Trump to implement protectionist trade policies. He was a key official behind the China–United States trade war and advocating for hardline policies towards China; he was sanctioned by China after leaving office.

He publicly clashed with Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as Navarro advocated hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 and condemned various public health measures to stop the spread of the virus.

Navarro fought to overturn the fraudulent 2020 election and in February 2022 was subpoenaed twice by Congress. Navarro refused to comply. On June 2, 2022, a grand jury indicted him on two counts of contempt of Congress. On September 7, 2023, Navarro was convicted on both counts, and on January 25, 2024, he was sentenced to four months in jail and fined $9,500, becoming the first former White House official imprisoned on a contempt-of-Congress conviction. He served his sentence at the minimum-security camp inside of the Miami Federal Correctional Institute. Navarro was released on July 17, 2024.

He's published a number of books. Death by China talks about tariffs.
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Can someone explain what started these funny JD Vance memes? I feel like it must have been leftists that started it with the intent to insult him but as usual they failed.
It is groypers who don't like Vance.

I have said before but I feel like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to avoid having to critique Trump.
 
My line of thinking has always been, if they went through the lengths of whacking the guy inside a prison, I doubt the powers that be would allow the files and evidence to survive, especially when we had a demented president for 4 years that didn't even know where the fuck he was 90% of the time.
Let's be real. Epstein is probably still alive unless, sometime during his retirement, he snorted so much shit up his nose that he stroked out. The face on the dead Epstein "leaked" photo had some not-so-subtle differences in places that it's hard to cover up.

If you have a guy running your international trafficking ring, and he's doing a great job, but starting to get heat, you don't kill him. You pull him out and put someone else (or multiple people) in. If you kill him, it's bad for business. The next guy(s) who take over will operate with a greater deal of paranoia, which will hinder their ability to run shit and constantly put tension between you and them.

Epstein was exited out the back during the camera fuckery, and another body procured earlier was placed in his cell. He was flown out to get plastic surgery, and will most likely live the rest of his life with a new forged identity as a "crypto-millionaire" or some shit. The photo was "leaked" so those in the know see he's not acutally dead, and can pick up where he left off. His "empire" has probably been divided up into pieces and is now much less centralized. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tates are actually on the lower or middle rungs of this shit, and trying to position themselves to move up by becoming major blackmailers in the U.S. conservative faction.
 
So why didn’t SCOTUS destroy it?
One name. John 'Chief Coward' Roberts. John Roberts is a spineless cuck that cares more about getting into the right cocktail parties, playing appeasement games, and 'losing with dignity' type action. He would rather die than take an unpopular or difficult but Constitutionally correct stance, seeking always to kick the can down the road just a little bit so he won't have to shoulder the burden of his role as Chief Justice, trying to rule on frippery to dispose of cases, and just cowardly. He's an insult to the Court, and this nation.

He's the legal equivalent to a cowardly parent in a store pleading pathetically 'please calm down' as their toddler knocks down a display while screaming and shitting all over the floor. He is so completely unwilling to take a stand and enforce judicial rules because he doesn't want to be seen as 'mean' or 'harsh'. All this bullshit with these District Court injunctions, for example, have been brewing for years, as we read in the latest dissent. He could have stopped it wholesale then, but he refused because that would be taking a stand. He wants all the accolades of being the Chief Justice, but none of the responsibility.

I simply cannot express the disgust and contempt I have for Roberts. Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson at least have the excuse of being braindead, Communist women (redundant, I know). Roberts has no excuse, I fucking wish that Alito or, God hear my plea, Thomas were Chief Justice. I'd settle for Brewski Brett or Boresuch, those two would be an improvement! (Gorsuch might actually be really good, his autistic streak might be really stubborn.)

His obvious, continued cowardice is a serious problem. Weakness always invites attack, and if he has opposed this type of lawfare with appropriately masculine firmness and resolve before, we likely wouldn't be in this potential political crisis NOW. As we have seen lately with the border and other issues, all it takes is someone in charge willing to say NO to garner results.
 
Can we be realistic for a hot minute? Fucking all the best composers are dead, and the remain ones that are good and living are all working for hollywood, where shitting soundtrack music actually affects someone's bottom line.

Any fucking symphony concert always involves sitting through some shithead's (white or red or yellow or black) stupid atonal composition entitled "faggottry for woodwinds and triangle". It's so bad you might as well not even show up on time.
There are a few exceptions like Jennifer Higdon (composed Cold Mountain) and Zach Redler (composed The Falling and the Rising), with the latter being genuinely heartwrenching. There's a great recording of the premiere on YouTube.

It feels like the issues with composition are rooted in the same issues people are struggling with across the board: the essence of who we are as a people, what our morals are, what we perceive as intrinsically beautiful and inspiring, are all corrupted. Like with physical art, the postmodernist mindset poisons the creative mind. Suddenly, the constant, the underlying beauty, is seen as an issue to be solved, not something to be relied upon. Composers try to blend other genres into their work without understanding what people love about either.

For an example that has stuck with me for a very VERY long time, Juilliard (and I assume other schools like MSM, Rice, and Thornton) do not require composers to play an instrument. They are given Sibelius and told to go crazy. A coworker of mine from years back was a composition grad there and he told me how he hated what he wrote, how his professors marked down any work that didn't sound academic. These faggots are responsible for creating and corrupting generations of composers who have been browbeaten into writing for academics, then feel hurt and confused when the average person says it just sounds like noise.
 
this is an obvious benefit of tariffs and I've never seen it adequately discussed by real economists, by which I mean austrians - I don't even know adequate terminology to use to discuss it other than luxury market or consumer market. the total disappearance of cheap chinese plastic crap is only bad if huge quantities of cheap chinese crap is the price of the free market. is it? I dunno.
The issue with a lot of Austrians is they are correct about the technical issues with tarrifs which are real (Eventually, goods might simply be taken off the market because demand has cratered due to high prices. This has been an observable issue since ancient times. Hadrian tried some protectionist stuff and it ended up backfiring.), the issue is they are assuming an ideal world where everyone is allied and not going to stick to their ingroup preference damn everyone else.

I am a proponent of Austrian School so I am mixed on tariffs. However I think too many see it purely in the sense of neutral economics, when we aren't in such in a world. We should only allow free trade with countries who actually respect our values and economy and don't tariff us. EU, Canada don't. China is an economic enemy so obviously not. China is never going to behave economically ethical, they don't see stuff in a human lens and don't care if 40 million people die in a famine or plague. They don't understand honorable trade, only the iron rod, so tariffs they deserve.
 
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