Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Sneed Force One]

It's been since Greer said he filed an ethics complaint on Mr. Hardin. What's the result?
Greer bros, is it over?

"Mr Harden,

I am just. too. swamped! You cannot reasonably expect me to file a complaint to your bar association within the next six months! You expect too much from a pro se litigant. As an impartial third party, why can't you just compromise and have your client offline the Kiwifarms servers?

Respectfully,
Greer"

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

He must have the patience of a saint. Or he doesn't and is getting through this with copious amounts of alcohol.

He probably dreams of the day he can face Greer in court and humiliate him.

 

[Pat Fried Rice]

I am throbbing with anticipation for Mr. Hardin's reply. Like, full on lawboner.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I am throbbing with anticipation for Mr. Hardin's reply. Like, full on lawboner.

To the Amended complaint? There's still a week until the deadline

 

[Pat Fried Rice]

To the Amended complaint? There's still a week until the deadline

I know, but i like to be...prepared.
In all seriousness, I suspect Hardin has been anticipating the Drooler's filing, and already has a bit of his response drafted.

I AM WILLING TO KEEP THE LAWBONER FOR A WEEK.

 

[obsdj]

I suspect Hardin has been anticipating the Drooler's filing, and already has a bit of his response drafted.

I sure as hell hope so since the proposed amended complaint (identical to the one now filed) was put up December 31st.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

He hadn't actually gotten around to it. Hardin might as well have not even filed it, since the court utterly ignored it and just made up a fantasy number out of nowhere with zero reasoning.

The court ignoring the laws regarding attorney's fees and costs in favor of their own bullshit reasoning is at least somewhat in line with the court ignoring copyright law in favor of their own bullshit reasoning. One can only speculate as to what part of the law they will ignore in favor of their own bullshit reasoning next.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

The court ignoring the laws regarding attorney's fees and costs in favor of their own bullshit reasoning is at least somewhat in line with the court ignoring copyright law in favor of their own bullshit reasoning. One can only speculate as to what part of the law they will ignore in favor of their own bullshit reasoning next.

The Court hereby determines that while Defendant Moon violated no laws, he looks a little Jew-y for us. 15 years hard labor in the Cringe Mines.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

with the court ignoring copyright law in favor of their own bullshit reasoning.

The district judge has yet to ignore copyright law, IIRC

he looks a little Jew-y for us

Isn't that a plus?

 

[DavidS877]

Isn't that a plus?

Not in Utah.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

When he said he would be filing for sanctions against Hardin he was just being a "shock jock"...

Judges can get punished eventually if they go batshit, either by losing an election if elected-type or being impeached. The "normal" way a judge fuckup is "punished" is on appeal.

I believe there is also a judicial review board that can occur if a judge sees too many successful appeals due to errors of procedure?

The GOP senate doesn't have the majority to impeach any judges at the moment (doesn't have the 60 to stop filibusters either). maybe after midterms but i'm guessing senate will go back down to 50/50. either way, nothing will happen to the federal judges.

If I'm not mistaken, the process is the same as it is for a president. The house can impeach with a simple majority, but then a trial is held in the senate and a removal from the bench requires a 2/3 majority vote by the senate. So, it can be one of those weird situations where a judge can be impeached, but not removed, similar to a president, if I am correct.

I know, but i like to be...prepared.
In all seriousness, I suspect Hardin has been anticipating the Drooler's filing, and already has a bit of his response drafted.

I AM WILLING TO KEEP THE LAWBONER FOR A WEEK.

So, you will be law gooning for a week...

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

The judge isn't going to be impeached for giving Russ all the rope he needs to hang himself. He doesn't give a shit about this case, remember. He just wants the pro se retard case to go away so he can deal with (to him) actual important things.

 

[SCV]

So rusty always has these emails from people he claims are from the farm and are harassing him. I think a lot of us (myself included) suspect that he sent them himself. Several of them are from gmail addresses to rustys gmail so google should be able to tell pretty definitively if these were sent from rustys iphone.

Why not subpoena google for this information? If russ did send himself them I would imagine he'd be apoplectic just at the suggestion. If it comes out that he did and has been unambiguously lying to the court about it then surely that would be case dismissed right?

Possible downsides (IANAL): If Hardin pursued this would it be giving legitimacy to non-copyright issues (can you "open the door" to things before trial?) ? Could we get our shit slapped if google tried to quash the subpoena a la fatrick? Can lawyers just send subpoenas or do they need to go through the court first?

 

[Harm]

Why not subpoena google for this information?

Because it's a copyright case and the emails don't actually matter despite Greer incessantly entering them as exhibits. Why waste resources to prove/disprove something which is wholly immaterial to the real contentious issue? It's not a wise move to dignify his bullshit.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Because it's a copyright case and the emails don't actually matter despite Greer incessantly entering them as exhibits. Why waste resources to prove/disprove something which is wholly immaterial to the issue? It's not a wise move to dignify his bullshit.

Considering how often Russ asserts it to the court, proving he sent it himself might be worth a sanction or two.

I think the real problem is Google might decide to fight the subpoena on the rather legitimate grounds of "wtf this has nothing to do with a crime". I don't know how protective Google is with email data or how obstinate they are about subpoenas. But if they bothered, it would cost more money to fight Google than to just let Russ screech about nothing.

 

[break these cuffs]

Considering how often Russ asserts it to the court, proving he sent it himself might be worth a sanction or two.

I think the real problem is Google might decide to fight the subpoena on the rather legitimate grounds of "wtf this has nothing to do with a crime". I don't know how protective Google is with email data or how obstinate they are about subpoenas. But if they bothered, it would cost more money to fight Google than to just let Russ screech about nothing.

Fat Rick's lolsuit was dead in the water before it got started because he went after google first to get user info.

 

[Dyn]

He just wants the pro se retard case to go away so he can deal with (to him) actual important things.

Does he? His job is a neverending procession of cases. Is he really going to care whether he's dealing with this one or the next one?

 

[Shig O'nella]

Does he? His job is a neverending procession of cases. Is he really going to care whether he's dealing with this one or the next one?

Of course he cares.
Even judges are human and slow down to gawk at car crashes.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Pacer has been struggling to give me the docs for a few minutes now. I'll post an update when I can

 

[obsdj]

Incoming filing

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Beat me to the screenshot. Friday night funsies! I also love the new "PACER Pray and Pay Project" they just launched. You basically can wishlist docs you want if you don't have PACER access, and somebody who does can fulfill your wish if they're feeling generous.