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Vance bringing his own into the fold, we just need him to do a tier list while on a plane trip somewhere:
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The Vance face memes are done. A meme is only memetic as long as it isn't confronted by the source of the meme. It's a zero-summing type of effect that always happens when reality meets an abstraction of that reality. They just seem to cancel each other out. When Obama did the "thanks Obama" line, it died. When the subject of all those old advice animal images came forward, they died. When Biden did the "Brandon" meme, it died. This happens over and over.
 
my nigga have you ever heard of europe



Efficiency is an American value. The Japanese learned it from us, and the Germans never learned it at all.
I find it funny when people always act like Germans are all about efficiency when this was the country where philosophical romanticism was all the rage.
That's TNG. They specifically mention money in TOS existing. And as soon as Gene Rod died money came back

That's TNG again, and Sulu was a massive poon hound, the actor is gay. Like how Kirk is from Iowa but Shatner is a leaf
Star Trek is effectively a what the more radical illuministic proponents of the enlightenment would consider utopia. It isn't communist, which is basically a romanticist idea that all distinctions that makes people unique are inequalities to be abolished. It is still blank slatist like communists, but it follows a more enlightenment liberal idea that reason is absolute and arational knowledge sources are no better than irrationalities, and that once we reach a stage of total reason, innovations have removed the scarcities leading to what the writers would consider "irrational behavior" and the governmental apparatus would have to inherently reshape itself with this new paradigm regarding the acquisition of resources.

From my perspective it's a hopelessly utopian postmillenialist embodiment of the hubris of enlightenment thought and liberalism unmoored from the Scholasticism and theology that originally bounded it to a more humble telos. If Globohomo is utilitarian-sourced managerialist rules based societies, then Star Trek is Globohomo. However in some internationalist Marxist sense that either orthodox Marxists (Marxism-Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism) neomarxists (Frankfurt school, critical theory, socjus) espouse, it's not really that.
 
The Vance face memes are done. A meme is only memetic as long as it isn't confronted by the source of the meme. It's a zero-summing type of effect that always happens when reality meets an abstraction of that reality. They just seem to cancel each other out. When Obama did the "thanks Obama" line, it died. When the subject of all those old advice animal images came forward, they died. When Biden did the "Brandon" meme, it died. This happens over and over.
That's normie memes for you though, they have a very short shelf life because they get spammed to death. Elon's X being a shitpost stravaganza with premium accounts all whoring out for ad revenue will kill memes faster than ever.

Think of Pepe or Wojak, it took years for both to break out into the masses. those had organic growth.
 
That's normie memes for you though, they have a very short shelf life because they get spammed to death. Elon's X being a shitpost stravaganza with premium accounts all whoring out for ad revenue will kill memes faster than ever.

Think of Pepe or Wojak, it took years for both to break out into the masses. those had organic growth.
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I find it funny when people always act like Germans are all about efficiency when this was the country where philosophical romanticism was all the rage.

Star Trek is effectively a what the more radical illuministic proponents of the enlightenment would consider utopia. It isn't communist, which is basically a romanticist idea that all distinctions that makes people unique are inequalities to be abolished. It is still blank slatist like communists, but it follows a more enlightenment liberal idea that reason is absolute and arational knowledge sources are no better than irrationalities, and that once we reach a stage of total reason, innovations have removed the scarcities leading to what the writers would consider "irrational behavior" and the governmental apparatus would have to inherently reshape itself with this new paradigm regarding the acquisition of resources.

From my perspective it's a hopelessly utopian postmillenialist embodiment of the hubris of enlightenment thought and liberalism unmoored from the Scholasticism and theology that originally bounded it to a more humble telos. If Globohomo is utilitarian-sourced managerialist rules based societies, then Star Trek is Globohomo. However in some internationalist Marxist sense that either orthodox Marxists (Marxism-Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism) neomarxists (Frankfurt school, critical theory, socjus) espouse, it's not really that.
Yeah the green chick is hot and the gals wear short skirts, you're right
 
I find it funny when people always act like Germans are all about efficiency when this was the country where philosophical romanticism was all the rage.

Star Trek is effectively a what the more radical illuministic proponents of the enlightenment would consider utopia. It isn't communist, which is basically a romanticist idea that all distinctions that makes people unique are inequalities to be abolished. It is still blank slatist like communists, but it follows a more enlightenment liberal idea that reason is absolute and arational knowledge sources are no better than irrationalities, and that once we reach a stage of total reason, innovations have removed the scarcities leading to what the writers would consider "irrational behavior" and the governmental apparatus would have to inherently reshape itself with this new paradigm regarding the acquisition of resources.

From my perspective it's a hopelessly utopian postmillenialist embodiment of the hubris of enlightenment thought and liberalism unmoored from the Scholasticism and theology that originally bounded it to a more humble telos. If Globohomo is utilitarian-sourced managerialist rules based societies, then Star Trek is Globohomo. However in some internationalist Marxist sense that either orthodox Marxists (Marxism-Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism) neomarxists (Frankfurt school, critical theory, socjus) espouse, it's not really that.
One thing people miss about Star Trek society is that the Federation is Post Energy Scarcity, Cheap Abundant Energy changes dynamics.
 
One thing people miss about Star Trek society is that the Federation is Post Energy Scarcity, Cheap Abundant Energy changes dynamics.
That's one way of describing a Kardashev type 2.5 civilization.
isn't this exactly why the tariffs are dumb?
It's a force projection thing, they're finding out what the sharp end of 'Do unto others' looks like. If the US mirrors Canada's behavior in tariffs exactly, Canada will cease to exist as an economic power.
 
Businesses don't like risk.
Nobody likes risk but that's how we fucking got here. We put every policy in place to minimize risk as much as humanly possible.

Here's an example. Why do you think homes are so expensive? Well, we legislated the fuck out of zoning laws to force anyone looking to build homes to be unable to build anything other than unaffordable, million dollar McMansions. None of this was by coincidence. They wanted to minimize their risk on investment and prevent plebs from moving into good neighborhoods. It's the basic foundations of suburbia.

The reality is nearly every economic problem in this country is caused by people forcing through legislature to minimize risk as much as possible. It's never sustainable. We created a bubble. Minimizing risks via legislature is directly responsible for inflation. It's not a correlation. It's a direct causation and that's always been a basic economic principle. There has to be a healthy amount of risk.
 
That's normie memes for you though, they have a very short shelf life because they get spammed to death. Elon's X being a shitpost stravaganza with premium accounts all whoring out for ad revenue will kill memes faster than ever.
I don't think it's just a matter of them being normie memes, though the burn out from overuse is absolutely true as well. There's some sort of effect of meme meeting reality that makes the meme unfunny. It's that sense of cringe when Biden on camera said 'Let's go Brandon." It can't really happen with things like pepe or wojak because those aren't based on a real person who can recreate the meme in reality, and thereby destroy it.

It's the same effect as when you have an inside joke with your friends about another person, and then that other person gets in on the joke. Suddenly, the joke becomes unfunny and is dropped entirely.

I'm sure someone has noticed this effect and put it into a fancier explanation with more academic language, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a meme that has survived confrontation with or recreation by the subject of the meme.
 
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