Has the world "loli" always had pedo connotations? - Aw here it goes

[Shig O'nella]

In summary: we have the Kiwi Farms posts

Nice digging, but ... it's right there in his name.
That "when people tell you who they are" quote works on the terminally irony poisoned just as well as normal people.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[pollution jim]

I'll just leave this here.

He's either overcompensating for something or extremely schizo if he thinks that FPS games are teaching people to kill Russians

 

[Ass to Ass]

He's either overcompensating for something or extremely schizo if he thinks that FPS games are teaching people to kill Russians

It was more the part where he went

You know this argument is used by people who want to display pictures of naked cartoon children being raped everywhere, right? I used to use this argument all the time, and then I realized I was wrong and the media we consume really does influence our minds.

than anything else. I'm quite used to Jack Thompson types who blame violent video games for violent acts. That was just something else.

 

[Lidl Drip]

This is why I said this cope about calling "cute" was cope, only difference I see is that this is REAL kids, and not animated. And somehow its so tolerable its deemed ENTIRELY inoffensive,

Yeah nigga cause it's grandmas and women with baby fever watching the cute toddler giggling compilations on youtube and tiktok. Entirely different audience than the single childless adult basement dweller who watches loli vtubers talk about what color underwear they are wearing in a breathy baby voice.

 

[pollution jim]

It was more the part where he went

than anything else. I'm quite used to Jack Thompson types who blame violent video games for violent acts. That was just something else.

He has to be cornered to the Jack Thompson argument that people are all perfect christian blank slates that are 100% corrupted by media to do what they do, because that makes him a victim instead of a predator. The columbine shooters wouldn't be shooters if it weren't for Doom, therefore this guy wouldn't be into kids if he didn't look at loli stuff. Even with all the addictive and damaging effects of porn I would say that even most people who look at porn won't eventually look for loli or every other fetish that exists, because that's something people are hardwired against being attracted to. It's something that goes wrong in the person itself that makes them violent or pedophilic. It's HIS fault that he named himself that, not the internet or anime or porn.

 

[GeekUSA]

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[Ass to Ass]

He has to be cornered to the Jack Thompson argument that people are all perfect christian blank slates that are 100% corrupted by media to do what they do, because that makes him a victim instead of a predator. The columbine shooters wouldn't be shooters if it weren't for Doom, therefore this guy wouldn't be into kids if he didn't look at loli stuff. Even with all the addictive and damaging effects of porn I would say that even most people who look at porn won't eventually look for loli or every other fetish that exists, because that's something people are hardwired against being attracted to. It's something that goes wrong in the person itself that makes them violent or pedophilic. It's HIS fault that he named himself that, not the internet or anime or porn.

You make a very good point. I know someone will probably call you an amateur psychology fag or something along those lines, but it makes sense. It's like Null pointed out earlier about that classic pedo defense Save the Loli was using.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

You make a very good point. I know someone will probably call you an amateur psychology fag or something along those lines, but it makes sense. It's like Null pointed out earlier about that classic pedo defense Save the Loli was using.

I mean when / if they get to the point of seriously asking for rights, you KNOW they will do the "born this way" line that faggots and trannies have always done (You already see this in some places). I think its true that people get corrupted but that ALSO doesn't make them a victim who deserves clemency.

Hell, plenty of wife beaters got beaten as kids, objectively this IS true, and objectively it DOES lead to that kinda shit as adults, but we don't feel bad for the wife beaters BECAUSE they were beaten as a kid.

Doesn't mean we can't recognize some people get warped by shit.

 

[pollution jim]

I mean when / if they get to the point of seriously asking for rights, you KNOW they will do the "born this way" line that faggots and trannies have always done (You already see this in some places). I think its true that people get corrupted but that ALSO doesn't make them a victim who deserves clemency.

Hell, plenty of wife beaters got beaten as kids, objectively this IS true, and objectively it DOES lead to that kinda shit as adults, but we don't feel bad for the wife beaters BECAUSE they were beaten as a kid.

Doesn't mean we can't recognize some people get warped by shit.

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you lost your wiring to not be attracted to children, or you didn't have that wiring in the first place, you still have full culpability. If someone starts shooting up a mosque because of COD, that's his problem because most people don't feel that way when they play COD. Pornography is more dangerous than just playing a game with mechanics that have war as a backdrop, because the sex drive is more powerful than just dopamine, but it was still your choice to watch Boku no Pico

 

[God of Nothing]

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you lost your wiring to not be attracted to children, or you didn't have that wiring in the first place, you still have full culpability. If someone starts shooting up a mosque because of COD, that's his problem because most people don't feel that way when they play COD. Pornography is more dangerous than just playing a game with mechanics that have war as a backdrop, because the sex drive is more powerful than just dopamine, but it was still your choice to watch Boku no Pico

Fetish shit like bondage and mind control or whatever is one thing, identity degenerate filth (furry and pedo type shit) is another. I can see someone getting into the former through pornography (one of them is outright only possible in porn but you get what I mean), but the latter is a sign of something else. You just don't become a full on degenerate. That kind of filth is something that needs to be embodied. It's why they're always so fucking obvious: they tie it to themselves and their identity.

What I'm saying is there's a difference between occasionally cranking one out to weird porn and being an outright sexual deviant. There's no slip and slide. You are actively in control of what you decide to consume. And why the fuck would you ever get into pedoshit, furryshit, or literal shit? If there's no disgust in your brain, you're just a freak. That's that.

I know that's more or less what you're saying. I just feel like adding on to the conversation.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

We should've started up a betting pool on how long it would take for you to attempt to gaslight everyone else ITT.

Your avatar is based on Hibiki, a character from some sort of Japanese game and associated anime named KanColle, who is modeled after a Japanese schoolgirl who wears a serafuku that features thigh highs and a short skirt, along with an annoyingly high-pitched voice. Took me maybe five minutes to figure that out. And there are quite a few weird things in KanColle from a casual YouTube search. Like, for example, a girl prancing around in a miniskirt with her asscrack and thong showing. But that's different, right? Well, there are artworks used in the game that are a bit... Revealing, of this loli, which you admit is a loli, and you insist you do not find this loli sexually appealing...

The linked content, I would consider NSFW. Open at your own peril. But it's not looking good for this user, from where I'm sitting.

I'm going to go rinse my eyes with bleach now.

I only read the Kantai Collection 4koma manga and slice of life stuff since I don't like shipgirls getting hurt. I've never played the game. You're taking one tiny part of the game out of context.

This is a stupid, shit argument and you're digging a hole. The "antis are the real pedos" line is cut directly from pedo circles on image boards. I'm not fucking stupid.

In this case it's a true one. If you think a totally non-sexual picture of an underage anime character is sexual, you have problems. Normal people don't do that. Just like I don't look at a picture of a dog or a horse and think how sexual it is, and I'd be right to make assumptions that anyone who does is fucked in the head.

It was more the part where he went

than anything else. I'm quite used to Jack Thompson types who blame violent video games for violent acts. That was just something else.

And my argument there is correct. Nice job being disingenuous about it and not understanding the point I was making that if you logically defend COD propaganda and violent video games warping the mind that you also have to logically defend the consumption of lolicon/shotacon. I used to be a free speech absolutist. I'm not anymore.

 

[The Last Stand]

In this case it's a true one. If you think a totally non-sexual picture of an underage anime character is sexual, you have problems. Normal people don't do that. Just like I don't look at a picture of a dog or a horse and think how sexual it is, and I'd be right to make assumptions that anyone who does is fucked in the head.

The real question is what possesses one to draw and KEEP an underage anime character in suggestive positions?

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

a girl prancing around in a miniskirt with her asscrack and thong showing.

That's twink

 

[Null]

In this case it's a true one. If you think a totally non-sexual picture of an underage anime character is sexual, you have problems. Normal people don't do that. Just like I don't look at a picture of a dog or a horse and think how sexual it is, and I'd be right to make assumptions that anyone who does is fucked in the head.

You're a fucking retard and you're running out of rope.

There's a retard who loves posting pictures of dragons farting. "Everyone farts, even dragons. If you think his dragons farting is a sexual fetish it's YOU who's into farting!" Almost all arguments about lolicon being an innocuous thing does not work if you apply those same arguments to literally anything else. The whole facade falls apart like wet paper in your hands.

Listen to yourself. There's a reason why nobody calls Bluey a loli or Cailou a shota. Western animation is inherently unsexual. Anime is not. It's fucking creepy. Though I'd also be suspect of anyone who made Bluey their avatar as an adult man, like that one tranny who posts on the site did until I forced him to change his avatar.

Also you picked up another 4chan / Dick Masterson talking point: "Here's a tabloid posting bikini photos of a 14 year old, and yet you're angry about drawings, curious..." Yeah nigger there's fucking children being raped and butchered in Africa but I'm not flying out to Sudan to do something about it because it's not my fucking problem. Who I let post on my site, who I associate with, that's my fucking problem.

 

[Ass to Ass]

The real question is what possesses one to draw and KEEP an underage anime character in suggestive positions?

No, the real question is "how do we get rid of these shitbags in an economical way?"

 

[God of Nothing]

There's a retard who loves posting pictures of dragons farting. "Everyone farts, even dragons. If you think his dragons farting is a sexual fetish it's YOU who's into farting!"

I'm ashamed I couldn't put this into words myself.
Reminds me of some of those retarded "Real child abusers are ACKSHULLY straight people," arguments some fags make.
It's a high effort "No, you," and I just lose all the will I have to engage anymore because what kind of fucking person thinks he's making a point with this logic?

Come to think of it, this entire thing has been this

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

He's either overcompensating for something or extremely schizo if he thinks that FPS games are teaching people to kill Russians

That reminds me of when some academic asshole was trying to paint the 80s Ninja Turtles cartoon as racist. He/she (I don't remember which) asked kids a bunch of very leading questions trying to show that the cartoon was making children hate Japanese people (Because Shredder was Japanese).

I remember they asked one kid specifically "Where are the Foot soldiers from?" and the kid answered "Japan" but then continued "But I think they're robots".

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

You're a fucking retard and you're running out of rope.

There's a retard who loves posting pictures of dragons farting. "Everyone farts, even dragons. If you think his dragons farting is a sexual fetish it's YOU who's into farting!" Almost all arguments about lolicon being an innocuous thing does not work if you apply those same arguments to literally anything else. The whole facade falls apart like wet paper in your hands.

Listen to yourself. There's a reason why nobody calls Bluey a loli or Cailou a shota. Western animation is inherently unsexual. Anime is not. It's fucking creepy. Though I'd also be suspect of anyone who made Bluey their avatar as an adult man, like that one tranny who posts on the site did until I forced him to change his avatar.

Also you picked up another 4chan / Dick Masterson talking point: "Here's a tabloid posting bikini photos of a 14 year old, and yet you're angry about drawings, curious..." Yeah nigger there's fucking children being raped and butchered in Africa but I'm not flying out to Sudan to do something about it because it's not my fucking problem. Who I let post on my site, who I associate with, that's my fucking problem.

If you think all anime is inherently sexual and fucking creepy, then there's no point even trying to reason with that logic. Glad you're consistent that I could change my pfp to literally any anime picture and you'd still somehow think it's "inherently sexual" and "creepy." I take back my point that anyone who thinks my pfp is sexual is fucked in the head, because I honestly thought people on this site weren't into villifying entire mediums.

 

[Lidl Drip]

n this case it's a true one. If you think a totally non-sexual picture of an underage anime character is sexual, you have problems.

If it's not sexual then why do weebs call all anime children and child-looking characters "loli" a direct reference to lolicons aka pedophiles? Why don't you just call them anime children?