I dress as if I'm going to a furry convention or Pride celebration whenever I leave the house. I'm often asked if I'm an entertainer for children or going to a special function, and I respond that's my normal fashion preference.
This seems to be a recurring motif with you-why are you so hell bent on broadcasting yourself like this? Surely going to buy groceries is just a 'pants-and-shirt' event. I understand that you are an attention whore, but you're going about it in a very unique way. And not necessarily a positive one.
And, of course, I am also a hebephile, though I very much gravitate towards drawn smut and my own fictional characters. RL humans aren't often attractive to me sexually or personally.
Do you believe that this is a symptom of your autism? It has been shown that autistic individuals lack 'appropriate' sex drives in varying ways (like being asexual in some cases or by being highly deviant). Having interest in 2D but not real people strikes me as a malformed sex drive. Also:
RL humans aren't often attractive to me sexually or personally.
Which means they sometimes are. From an admitted hebephile, this is slightly concerning. You can see why this is concerning, correct?
transgender (genderqueer femboy type
Dumb. Just call yourself a crossdresser or whatever. I would also like to call this a symptom of your autism, and I mean that in the most literal sense: your inability, due to your autism, to understand what it means to be X-gender.
From your InkBunny:
I have had two psychologists- people with Ph.Ds after their names- react with alarm by me disclosing to them preemptively I'm hebephilic. The first one insisted I sign a document before starting therapy pledging to report myself to her (who would then report me to police, she emphasized) if I offended. As I mentioned in the autism journal, the second one exclaimed just from me telling her my orientation, "There are children here!", as if I was possibly unable to control myself in the event I saw a child in the waiting room who I found sexually attractive. I think another therapist asked me if I was a zoophile as a result of the hebephilia declaration, in a very suspicious and condescending manner.
That's like being upset that someone who admits to being a rapist waltzing into a women's shelter. It's just a bad set up all around. Even if you, personally, will never molest any child, the fact remains that many of them can and
will, and that will ruin at least one life. Their suspicion has nothing to do with YOU, personally. A therapist has no way to determine those who will offend from those who won't: they
have to assume the worst. Same reason people who threaten to kill themselves, even if they're not actually going to, can be institutionalized for periods of time. Also, people who announce their deviancy is concerning in and of itself. It's no better than those daddy-littles who constantly post about their relationship. Why broadcast it?
So, when people insist we seek out a therapist for our perceived or real sexual disorders, I ask: To whom? For what? With what type of therapy? There literally are no options of that nature for me.
Agreed. However, you also mention that things like aversion therapy won't work: what do you WANT people to do about people like you? Therapy cannot work if the individual in question doesn't want to get better, and many people who convince themselves that they are normal and that this is fine and that the therapy is a waste of time.
It is expected that people who have self-control not to commit the crime; if you're not going to commit the crime, why would you
discuss the desire to commit a crime (note I'm not talking about literally committing a crime here: I'm talking about how saying that XYZ is attractive, which therefore
implies that you have the desire to consummate the sexual attraction in some fashion, either by molestation or by consumption of child porn, etc) by announcing it to the world? If you are sexually deviant, keep it in your bedroom, away from other people.
If you don't have such compulsions but you work with children or care for them, use the anonymous process and ask whether this paired with your orientation will cause them to even consider reporting you to police, or just don't mention this if it's not very pertinent.
You were discussing what services to use, and seeing as you admit to stating your hebephilia to
your therapist, I can only assume that it
is pertinent to your life. Not making yourself look wholesome, here.
In my experience, furrydom is an excellent venue relative to the general culture to conduct sexual exploration, attain sexual gratification through fictional means, and to find like-minded and like-attracted people. This also applies to matters of gender. Gender roles aren't recognized here and femboys are practically a furry-owned concept because of how hugely they're favored by furries and furry artists. A major reason I have fared as well as I have in general with regards to my orientations and gender identity is I have always had this subculture to explore in and fall back to. I don't socialize much outside furrydom, so most of the online bigotry people speak about I've been shielded from.
Translation: "we fetishize gender, much like we fetishize animals. I personally, however, try not to look at things from the perspectives of other people because it contradicts what I want to be true. If I hear anything I don't like, I'll either stick my fingers in my ears, ignore them, or try to insane troll logic my way into being the one who's correct."
The fundamental cause for people placing so many restrictions on sex and porn in general and with regards to children is sex is seen as this highly dangerous and wild instinct and form of pleasure, something we need to shield children from lest they harm themselves or we directly harm them. Obviously, that is true to a degree, since sexual behavior can cause STDs and pregnancies, and sexual behavior often leads to more intimate relations, which can be a very bad thing if one or both people are terrible. However, especially with such a super-massively rampant proliferation of information, severely criminalizing even the act of letting minors look at tame fictional porn is absurd and pointless. So many children are accessing porn and I think sexual abuse rates have been about the same, yet the myth persists that any and all porn is dangerous. We stigmatize sex more than violence, and this is frightening. I could show a child watch the Saw series and receive nowhere nearly as much hate as I would from showing that child pictures of naked boobies, and the latter would be a major felony while the former wouldn't be criminal. This is fucking ridiculous.
That and being exposed to sex at too young an age cause actual harm to children mentally. Being exposed to sexual activity too early creates malformed responses and behaviors. Children who are exposed to sex at young ages are more likely to be violent, or have great anxiety, or be depressed. This is not only true of children who have been molested, but also for children who discover porn at young ages. Their brains literally cannot comprehend it yet properly, and while I agree that there are some overzealous attitudes towards children's sexual developments, the fact is that
children will grow into their sexuality as they age. You don't have to show them anything.
There are probably some pro-contact people who favor complete abolition of Age of Consent laws. I am not comfortable with that, and not even my idealized world of Takomen operates like that. I'm concerned that adults and older children will take unfair advantage of a small child even with comprehensive sex and emotional education, and of course small children won't know what's too big to stuff inside one of their orifices or other important things. At the same time, such things as masturbation and oral aren't inherently destructive regardless of age, so sentencing someone to years in jail for jerking off a 10-year-old and giving the 10-year-old victim therapy without regard for circumstances solves absolutely nothing. I would set an AoC for penetrative sex and a separate AoC (probably adulthood) for extreme forms of sex, and have those AoCs include porn consumption and participation for the same things with some safeguards. Below the first AoC non-penetrative sex with anyone would be allowed, penetrative sex allowed between children maybe, consumption of general vanilla porn would be permitted, and maybe production of porn between children would be allowed.
It's called "grooming." I figured as a furry you'd have heard the term before. Typically, simple, non-'inherently destructive things' are used as the gateways to acclimate children to sex, and is used as a manipulation tactic, because, again, children cannot process things like an adult would. It is at the very least manipulation, if not outright harmful in the long run. Don't try to downplay it just because it's not immediately physically harmful.
Trying to keep children until they're 18 infantilized on this, persecuting all the -philes, and allowing shit like abstinence-only sex ed, have created these appallingly high sexual abuse rates for children AND adults, and higher teen pregnancy rates, and other nasty effects.
You have a slight-
very slight-point. However, there is no one-size-fits-all answer, and the cutoff point has to be at some point. People can, will, and do have sex before 18. This is common knowledge. However, not everyone is ready before the age of 18, or frankly, for many years afterward. 18 is just the selected age when most people will be prepared by. There is also less issue between a 15 and 16yo having sex (which is rarely, if ever, prosecuted, and if it is there are usually some other circumstances) and a 30yo having sex with a 14yo. They are not the same thing, do not compare them as equal events.
Maybe more will complain when more malevolent and amoral prosecutors decide to charge minors with manufacturing and distributing child porn which they are in. Fucking seriously, how can someone legally be a victim and a perpetrator at the same time?
We are moving in the opposite direction. Child prostitution was recently decriminalized in California so that the children could be sent to treatment as victims rather than arrested for prostitution. Note how sex with children is the central criminal issue, even then.
I think we just need to abolish religious schools for minors, instruct students properly and repeatedly on various sexual and mental health concepts, make contraception of all types available to them, and tell the religious parents to submit or have their children taken away.
1. Religious schools are private and not regulated by the same bodies as public schools. People have the right to decide where and how their children are educated, even when they are wrong. Also, many colleges are religious. They banned too?
2. We live in the age of the internet. There is no reason whatsoever for any child above the age of 14 to not at least understand the basics of sex. Also, see the James Mitchell Terry Jr thread: one of his favorite arguments for why it wasn't rape is because he was teaching her sex.
3. Condoms are available for free fucking everywhere. If they don't have/want condoms for whatever reason, there are plenty of non-penetrative sex acts. Most people have hands.
4. This is highly extremist, and not all abstinence-only parents are religious.
I'll finish on this subject. I'm obviously a really unsuitable advocate for pederasty and sexual reform because I have natural instinctual incentives to come to these conclusions. I recognize how convenient all of this is. However, just because I advocate something that would directly benefit me doesn't invalidate the argument.
+1 point for honesty. However, I will say that you are largely looking at things from a very limited perspective, and assuming that most hebephiles would be like you, assuming you are telling the truth and would never harm someone. This is demonstrably not the case.
Do I sympathy for people who have genuine sexual deviancy that they can't control? Some. You're right when you say it's not a choice for everyone. However, your cavalier attitude to the inherent issues surrounding it are at best silly, at worst worrying. The negatives of your suggestions here outweigh the benefits. What's worse: a small subset of people who cannot fulfill their greatest fantasies, or the sudden rise in sexually exploited children? A hebephile is not the first or only person who will not (or rather,
should not) ever fulfill their greatest sexual dream. I want a MMF threesome with those two guys I see at the grocery store once in a while. I'm not going to get it. That doesn't give me the right to walk up to them and grab one's dick, even if it doesn't hurt them. I don't get the right to take my frustration out on other people, either, as many 'unfulfilled' pedophiles/hebephiles do. It ultimately comes down to self control, not their sexual desires. A hebephile with self control will never mention their deviant desires and simply live their life, and no one will ever be the wiser. At worst, they will stick to the letter of the law and never sleep with someone under 18 in the US (yes, I am aware the actual age of consent varies, but work with me). You cannot keep your mouth shut about it, and that is what is worrying about you. You have already admitted that you are willing to take your furry fetish to public spaces-and while many people are ignorant, there are also many who are fully aware of the sexual fetishism of furries. This altogether creates a rather disturbing picture of you, despite your articulate posts.
I am not proofreading this because it's fucking long.